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07-12-2020 04:38 PM
tsamolotoff Weird BIOS, I had troubles with running my standard OC (3800CL15 with 4x8 sticks), had to increase ProcODT to get it stable, but somehow now the board is relatively stable at 4400 MT/s in 1:2 mode (it was impossible to boot before, I only managed to do it once (and it ran without any problem), but after changing some insignificant parameter in BIOS (like CSM support) it stopped working for good. I guess NVRAM or something like that was corrupted and it was fixed after flashing new AGESA).
07-10-2020 12:30 AM
Spy F51g bios https://download.gigabyte.com/FileLi...-wifi_f51g.zip
Quote:
  1. Update AMD AGESA ComboV1 1.0.0.6 for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen XT series processors and New Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics processors support
  2. Fix AMD security vulnerabilities for SMM Callout Privilege Escalation
07-07-2020 01:09 PM
Markus_
Quote: Originally Posted by reaver83 View Post
when you ran the Ryzen Calculator, what Memory Type did you say it was? Pretty sure those sticks are Hynix CJR, not Samsung B-die. Check this with Thaiphoon Burner

before i bought this chips i checked it over the ID that it will be Samsung B Dies.
And yes before i used the ryzen calc i read out the html and use it as import for the ryzen calc.


thx markus
07-07-2020 09:25 AM
reaver83 when you ran the Ryzen Calculator, what Memory Type did you say it was? Pretty sure those sticks are Hynix CJR, not Samsung B-die. Check this with Thaiphoon Burner
07-06-2020 09:29 PM
Markus_ hi all,


i want to share you my strange behavior with my gaming 7 board.

Finally i got a stable 4x16GB 3600 cl16 with (F4-3200C14D-32GTZR * 2)

Two of the Modules running fine with ryzen 3700x and 2700x.
Four of the modules came the problem in with 4 * dual rank.

All tests now are done with ryzen 3700x

I used the newest Bios. F51d.
I have my switch on the board to single bios. With that settings i can't boot. So i'm hanging on code 15.
The MB restarting itself but always 15. Right after the new install of the 4 modules.

I tryed everthing .(clear cmos, try older bios's)

And the last step i wanted to try was switchen from SB to dual bios switch
After that and 3 times CC it boots . This is reproducible. Always after a clear cmos and switch to dual bios(switch on MB) i got to the bios finally yeah

i try to use 3200 with safe timings. (cl 16-16-16-36-50)

And i can do what i want it doesn't boot.
Of course i used all procODT settings from Ryzen Calc
No boots. (code 15 on MB)

Last step i tried to use 3600 cl16. And what should i say it boots O_o ?!
So the faster settings boots? this is what i can't understand. Of course i tried every procODT on the 3200.

Finaly now it runs with procODT 48.

DRAM 1.35V
SOC V 1.1V
07-04-2020 01:14 AM
reaver83 is it just me, or do these boards absolutely despise Hynix CJR RAM? Been seriously thinking of Dumping this 2x8 Corsair Verngence RGB Pro 3200mhz kit for a 2x8 Trident Z 3600mhz kit. Also, anyone ever had an issue were only one stick reported in CPU-Z, but it still reads 2 sticks in Dual Channel? Yes, I have tried swapping the RAM, and Yes, the RAM not reporting is in the same slot.
07-02-2020 10:14 AM
xeizo
Quote: Originally Posted by Whatisthisfor View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by arkantos91 View Post
Yesterday I finally had some time to do a little testing of "real world" use, in my case gaming.

I'm using 3600 MHz Fast preset from DRAM calculator. VSOC at 1.1, VDDG CCD, IOD and VDDP at 1.050.

Haven't touched the cpu voltages yet.

20 minutes of PUBG and the results scared the **** out of me. In my room the temperature was 27° C. Average cpu temps were around 68° C.

However peak cpu temp was a scaring 75° C. I was using Afterburner OSD while playing so I could keep an eye on temps every now and then and more often than not the cpu was over 70° C, not to the mention the all the heat made my 2080TI run even hotter at almost 80° C.

This is totally unacceptable, considering I have a huge case with fans, optimal airflow and an high end air cooler and my friend with a 3950X (which should run even hotter than the 3900X) never reaches 70°, not even as a one second peak temperature.

My guess is that the mainboard is the main issue here. I don't know if it's the power reporting deviation thing or not, but I think the mobo is throwing way more voltage than required. What should I do? Change power plan? I'm using Ryzen Balanced now. Should I really manually set the core voltage? What other cpu voltages should I tweak?

I really doubt going for a liquid AIO cooler would improve much to be honest. I'm afraid X470 is not really capable of handling high end Ryzen 3rd gen cpus.
I bought the 3900x some time ago and encounterd high temps also, compaired to the 3700x. I use a Kraken x62 and even with this temps did go high, so i did undervolt the cpu. I ended up selling it and put the 3700x back in, as for my daily usage (games) there wasnt a huge improvement. I learned from this experience that my next CPU will be a 65W TDP AMD again. If i had a bigger case (i have a PHANTEKS Enthoo Evolv ATX Midi-Tower) with better airflow and if i could tolerate more noise and if i did encode much, than maybe the 3900x would be the better choice for me. But i like it cool & quiet and for my games, the 3700x is sufficient.
That is true. I have both, on the 3900X H150i AIO was struggling replaced it with a NH-D15 and saw some improvement and less noise. On the 3700X the H150i is pure overkill, but I use it anyway nice to have too much cooling for a change 🙂
07-02-2020 06:45 AM
Whatisthisfor
Quote: Originally Posted by arkantos91 View Post
Yesterday I finally had some time to do a little testing of "real world" use, in my case gaming.

I'm using 3600 MHz Fast preset from DRAM calculator. VSOC at 1.1, VDDG CCD, IOD and VDDP at 1.050.

Haven't touched the cpu voltages yet.

20 minutes of PUBG and the results scared the **** out of me. In my room the temperature was 27° C. Average cpu temps were around 68° C.

However peak cpu temp was a scaring 75° C. I was using Afterburner OSD while playing so I could keep an eye on temps every now and then and more often than not the cpu was over 70° C, not to the mention the all the heat made my 2080TI run even hotter at almost 80° C.

This is totally unacceptable, considering I have a huge case with fans, optimal airflow and an high end air cooler and my friend with a 3950X (which should run even hotter than the 3900X) never reaches 70°, not even as a one second peak temperature.

My guess is that the mainboard is the main issue here. I don't know if it's the power reporting deviation thing or not, but I think the mobo is throwing way more voltage than required. What should I do? Change power plan? I'm using Ryzen Balanced now. Should I really manually set the core voltage? What other cpu voltages should I tweak?

I really doubt going for a liquid AIO cooler would improve much to be honest. I'm afraid X470 is not really capable of handling high end Ryzen 3rd gen cpus.
I bought the 3900x some time ago and encounterd high temps also, compaired to the 3700x. I use a Kraken x62 and even with this temps did go high, so i did undervolt the cpu. I ended up selling it and put the 3700x back in, as for my daily usage (games) there wasnt a huge improvement. I learned from this experience that my next CPU will be a 65W TDP AMD again. If i had a bigger case (i have a PHANTEKS Enthoo Evolv ATX Midi-Tower) with better airflow and if i could tolerate more noise and if i did encode much, than maybe the 3900x would be the better choice for me. But i like it cool & quiet and for my games, the 3700x is sufficient.
06-30-2020 12:51 PM
xeizo 70C ain't that hot, these chips doesn't start protection until 95C. With that said, your VDDP and VDDG looks high, I use 0.900 and 0.950 on all my Ryzen rigs(four). And you should have offset in the bios, I have it on my ultra cheap Aorus M, I run it at minus 0.088V with a 2700X. Also you could check SOC voltage, it shouldn't be above 1.1V, between 1.025-1.075V is usually fine.

I run my 3900X with CCX OC and have a fixed voltage using droop(LLC3). And a 3700X which I currently run with minus 0.05V offset, that one doesn't exceed 70C even in CB R20 but a 3700X outputs a lot less heat than a 3900X.

The 3900X is with a Noctua NH-D15, highest temp ingame I saw was 67C with 28C in the room using a OCd 2070 Super( a lot cooler than a 2080Ti, almost 100W difference in power consumption). CB R20 though will peak at 82C with the fixed voltage(scoring 7700+), which I think is fine enough of a margin to 95C.

All these chips have been running FAH AVX client at 100% load for 10+ weeks(too hot in the room now to continue), with constant temps of 80-90C. I can't observe any degradation on any of them.

Just to give you some refrence points! Cheers!
06-30-2020 05:50 AM
arkantos91
Quote: Originally Posted by Maracus View Post
27c ambient is obviously going to affect temps somewhat, I ran Cinebench yesterday afternoon and my ambient was roughly the same and I hit peak 76c on CPU and thats on water. If, your overly concerned that the mainboard is pushing the CPU too hard you can limit the TDP in the bios to 105w, which is what AMD specifies. I think I tried the TDP at 105w once just to test which ran cooler but you sacrifice the clocks speed which I think is AMD baseline 3.8GHZ

Edit:Whats your friends ambient temps? I know you said you have optimal airflow through your case but I would try taking the side cover off for 30mins while playing and see what difference that makes, when I ran my old case I used 2000RPM fans the ASUS Vega 56 unless I undervolted it would dump a lot of heat into the case causing my CPU temps rocket up
My friend has the same exact temps, he lives two stories down my apartment.

There must be clearly something wrong because I don't think it's possible that the cpu runs over 70° most of the time, the same temps I have when I run a Cinebench test, which is full load!

I don't think it's the Noctua ND14 not properly installed otherwise during Cinebench, under full load, temps would be even higher.

These are my settings now:
- 1.380 V ram @3600 MHz
- FCLK: 1800
- PBO: manual
- PPT Limit: 300
- TDc Limit: 230
- EDC Limit: 230
- SOC voltage: 1.100
- VDDG CCD: 1.050
- VDDG IOD: 1.050
- clDO VDDP: 1.050
- CMD2T: 1T
- Gear down mode: on (dram calculator says it should be off, but I've been told it off make the system highly unstable in games)
- Power down mode: off

At this point all I have left to do is manually set the cpu voltage. I don't want to run a fixed voltage because then it the voltage would never drop when the system is idling.

Best thing would be using a negative 1.0 offset but there is no option in the Gigabyte BIOS with that name...
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