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06-26-2019 11:50 PM
Echoa So after nearly 10hrs of trying to get this FW update installed i finally get to the point of running the program.....and it tells me im already good to go and dont need to update......i hate my life right now

So just FYI if anyone is running a brand new Rev1.1 of this board you probably dont need the EC FW Update and it wont even run telling you you dont need it. Mine seems to have been one that was made around May

Edit: Another thing i noticed is that using anything over F8 with my 1st Gen ryzen causes major boot issues and frequently causes the board to wipe my settings or just hang right before post. It happens less with USB devices not installed. Im not sure if 2nd Gen or 3rd Gen have/will have this issue but i wouldnt recommend anything over F8 with a 1st Gen Ryzen unless you want problems. F8 has none of these issues and boots much faster
06-26-2019 06:11 PM
Echoa
Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
This is the major hesitation I have on the EC Firmware flash other than the IT8733 numbering. (Namely whether a BIOS flash from backup BIOS chip can revert any adverse changes.)

Windows to Go is part of Windows 10 Enterprise / Education and not part of Home/Pro editions officially.

Probably don't want to use Windows 7 for flashing either as it isn't even officially supported for Ryzen , needs USB 3.0 drivers (NTLite or DISM required), and as far as I can tell Windows 7 wasn't designed to be run off USB even if there's some offerings such as windows to USB.

When I was testing stability with Prime95 / y-cruncher / etc and using Ryzen timing checker it was either in Windows 7 or Windows 10 Enterprise LiveUSB , as google stressapp is available in native Linux.
Its an awful and needless headache with no real info on what the update even does. It took around 3-4hrs to make the drive for me and the only reason im even doing this is that i plan to get Ryzen 3k

On the not of stability testing though i just use mprime (linux prime95), stress, and memtest86+ so no need for Windows in my camp
06-26-2019 06:02 PM
AlphaC
Quote: Originally Posted by Echoa View Post
So for any Linux users out there the only way to install the EC FW is to have some sort of Windows install. I tried in Windows PE and it doesn't work same as DOS. Im not 100% sure why Gigabyte has this tool needlessly requiring a full Win32 environment but they do (absolutely doesn't need it).

If you dont have windows the easiest way without installing directly is a "windows to go" drive. You'll need to make a Windows 8/10 VM, pass your USB Drive to it, and using Rufus+ Win10 1803 or w.e version of 7/8/10 you pick wait the 90min+ depending on drive speed to make the W2G drive.

I really hope in the future it supports DOS, even when I was on windows and for years I've either used DOS or in BIOS utilities for FW updates and doing them in Windows is asking for trouble
This is the major hesitation I have on the EC Firmware flash other than the IT8733 numbering. (Namely whether a BIOS flash from backup BIOS chip can revert any adverse changes.)

Windows to Go is part of Windows 10 Enterprise / Education and not part of Home/Pro editions officially.

Probably don't want to use Windows 7 for flashing either as it isn't even officially supported for Ryzen , needs USB 3.0 drivers (NTLite or DISM required), and as far as I can tell Windows 7 wasn't designed to be run off USB even if there's some offerings such as windows to USB.

When I was testing stability with Prime95 / y-cruncher / etc and using Ryzen timing checker it was either in Windows 7 or Windows 10 Enterprise LiveUSB , as google stressapp is available in native Linux.
06-26-2019 05:12 PM
Hequaqua
Quote: Originally Posted by Whatisthisfor View Post
Just curious: is F41A Bios Agesa 1.0.0.3 or still 1.0.0.2?
I'm not 100% sure. I only loaded it on my board very briefly. Had a major issue, not sure if it was bios related or not. The only screen shot I have is of bios F8/30/31, those both show AMD40.0.7.2.

Below is the screen shot where I got the info from.

Attachment 276626
06-26-2019 04:51 PM
Echoa So for any Linux users out there the only way to install the EC FW is to have some sort of Windows install. I tried in Windows PE and it doesn't work same as DOS. Im not 100% sure why Gigabyte has this tool needlessly requiring a full Win32 environment but they do (absolutely doesn't need it).

If you dont have windows the easiest way without installing directly is a "windows to go" drive. You'll need to make a Windows 8/10 VM, pass your USB Drive to it, and using Rufus+ Win10 1803 or w.e version of 7/8/10 you pick wait the 90min+ depending on drive speed to make the W2G drive.

I really hope in the future it supports DOS, even when I was on windows and for years I've either used DOS or in BIOS utilities for FW updates and doing them in Windows is asking for trouble
06-26-2019 08:08 AM
Whatisthisfor
Quote: Originally Posted by Hequaqua View Post
F41A Bios

The file size exceeds the limit to upload here.

Here is a link to my Google Drive that you can download it from though.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=16h...QzRwQkxvfDKts2

Do we need to really update the FW if we only plan on running two dimms?
Just curious: is F41A Bios Agesa 1.0.0.3 or still 1.0.0.2?
06-25-2019 12:58 PM
Echoa
Quote: Originally Posted by GBT-MatthewH View Post
This should be the correct Fw for all boards, let me know if you have any trouble: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ua...ImAzWVPJ1v_kwg

Here is the same file, but only for X470 G7: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1R9...bL95GryIH_nL9g
As i posted before, is this doable from a DOS environment GBT-Matthew? I could go through the annoyance of making a windows live USB but would rather not

EDIT: Answered the question myself, doesnt seem to work unfortunately
06-25-2019 12:56 PM
GBT-MatthewH This should be the correct Fw for all boards, let me know if you have any trouble: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ua...ImAzWVPJ1v_kwg

Here is the same file, but only for X470 G7: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1R9...bL95GryIH_nL9g
06-25-2019 12:56 PM
Echoa
Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
I'm curious why it is labeled IT8733 rather than IT8686 or IT8792 in that tool. It's the same family of ITE SuperIO controllers but not the exact model.



I am unsure what is going on with the EC firmware update tool that is not a BIOs update and whether a BIOS flash would overwrite anything. Maybe not.


The main reason I could see for updating using EC firmware tool is because all X570 boards from Gigabyte are daisy chain and the ones on X470/B450 were most likely all T-topology. Maybe they implemented a compatibility fix of sorts.


The preliminary review on Chapuzas Informatica using the board has terrible AIDA64 memory writes (r5 3600) so I don't know if it's because they didn't use the EC firmware tool with their 2 DIMMs.
Thats what my guess is regarding the tool, that Ryzen 3k and pretty much every x570 board seem to all be geared for DC and this board is T Top. I exclusively run 2 sticks since forever so 4dimms isnt really a worry but im curious if it does anything else
06-25-2019 12:54 PM
Echoa
Quote: Originally Posted by ReDXfiRe View Post
Talked with Matt about issues with FW (my board got "audio bricked", no right and left channel, sent to GBT Perú RMA, hopefully they will try the new ECFW, they thought it was audio caps so hope they will give it a try).

Matt uploaded new file with new FW tool, tested on another AG7W Rev 1.0 board and no audio issue at all. Here is the link:

drive.google.com/open?id=1R9h9t1bMWMQxNtd-j2bL95GryIH_nL9g (Bin file 817)

Right now on F40 on Ryzen 5 2600X, asking if there is any new beta BIOS for motherboard, but no issues so far. If anyone has audio issues, might want to give it a try (always at own risk).

Instructions (I assume you are a F31 bios, at least I was before I flashed the new ECFW).

1). Download rar, unrar it.
2). Tool tells you what FW version you at (I was at very old FW version, 672 I believe).
3). Click on load bin, select bin file (817). Then flash. It will flash relatively quick. Don't close program. WAIT.
4). Wait 1-2 mins (took about 40 seconds for me), OS will reboot itself. Secondary BIOS might kick in (plug off power supply a min and cold boot it) and you should be on primary BIOS again on F31.

After that, on F40, did a quick AIDA64 test. No issues. 3200 MHz CL14 kit (no OC at all or PBO). Going to test bench 2600X all over again...

Btw, just wondering, you guys aware on 1903 Windows kernel high latencies on latencymon? Might have to bench on 1809 (no issues at all on latency/interruptions).

P.S. If anyone has a BIOS post F41a, let me know, but I'm asking, going to give it a try.
do you know if the firmware tool be run in a DOS environment? Im not planning to use it just yet but if it can that would be convenient if it becomes needed. I purged Windows from my systems and would rather not have to use it.
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