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10-24-2018 05:39 PM
Mad Pistol Data Science is the new norm. The only way to escape it is to turn everything off. Kinda sad if you think about it.

That being said, if you're a data scientist, there's A LOT of money to be made.
10-23-2018 08:34 AM
2Luke2 Well this is a good reason to never buy another GM product or any other new car. I already can't stand advertisements/tracking on something I paid for. Sorry I'll vote with my wallet like I always do.
10-22-2018 09:01 AM
jagdtigger Well i have a 2t bike from 1987, one 50ccm 2t scooter from 2013, and one 600ccm Bandit from 2002. Good luck getting any kind of data out of them... X'D

Last good car IMO:
10-20-2018 10:29 AM
miklkit You obviously never heard of the Ford Mustang Trans Am Privateer Special. A factory built Trans Am racer that anyone could buy. It cost around $5700.
10-20-2018 09:47 AM
Namwons I wish manufacteres still put out race/rally homologation cars. 80/90's was the pinnacle of REAL stock car racing,
10-19-2018 01:55 PM
xJumper
Quote: Originally Posted by Lemondrips View Post
I am probably going to drive 90's era cars until I die or it's impossible to afford gas.
Lol basically what I plan on doing. It's funny, I thought I was alone on this but I've been hearing this exact line from so many people from all sorts of walks of life for a while now. There's a huge chunk of people who just don't wanna get on board these new connected car tablet PC in your dash data mining ultra safe cocoons that drive themselves.

The 90's cars basically reached the pinnacle of the internal combustion tech as it relates to reliability, everything after that has been bloat and stuff to make things more mindless not really exponential advancements in capability/range/etc. Even the most base model car today is more loaded than the most luxurious car from 20 years ago.

GM died when the last B-Body rolled off the line. They should have died in 08. Today other than their trucks or their flagship sports cars they suck, they tried to play the Japanese at their own game and they lost. Ever see a Chevy Lumina on the road still? Didn't think so, but 1990's Honda's are still everywhere. What GM cars do you still see from that era on the road? B-Bodies, Caprices, wagons and trucks. Consequently all cars that are basically trucks, and what is the only thing that GM makes today that's worth anything? Trucks. GM should have stuck to what they were good at, their trucks are good today because it's essentially them making exactly what they have always made, full size V8, turbohydramatic, FR layout body on frame. I picked up a 1989 Chevrolet Caprice in 2008 and drove that for 3/4 of the year and I had a Tercel to use as a winter beater. That was my combo until very recently, never owned a vehicle from the 2000's and even as a GM fan I would never dream of owning anything new GM puts out besides maybe their trucks, everything else they make just sucks.
10-19-2018 01:35 PM
Lemondrips
Quote: Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post
There are a handful of jap cars from that era I just like. Like the MR2 and Miata. But Honestly never liked any of the tin can eco boxes with really cheap interiors. Like the Honda Civics of the world. Though everyone has their own preference on their level of comfort inside a vehicle, I spent enough time in friend's jap "death traps" to never want to own one. Sorry buy I'd take an old Comfy Buick from the late 90's with the 3.8 over any jap eco box. And I hate the grandma look of those old Buicks, but I'd take interior comfort over exterior looks any day of the week.

My first car was a 97 LHS with the 3.5, had almost 300k miles by the time it stopped working. All the bells and whistles you could ask for at the time. God I hate how modern cars don't have those super comfy pillow seats. Thing got around the same mpg my current car gets.... just no where near as fast.

No surprise really that larger vehicles lead in sales these days. I wouldn't buy a car that wasn't sporty.

Smaller cars were by far more popular in the 90s, and a big reason why those jap cars sold well.
There were TONS of 90's era Japanese cars that dominated as sports cars. The biggest problem is America got the short end of this stick and got a bunch of **** compared to what was sold over there, but there is still a bunch of good 90's cars you can find/swap/import now. Especially European 90's cars were awesome as well.

Toyota Supra/MR2
Nissan 240sx/300zx/R32
Mazda RX7
Subaru Impreza 92-00
Mitsubishi Eclipse/3000GT
Honda Prelude/S2000
Lexus IS300(yes it's early 02 not 90s)
Infiniti G20

This is just a small list there are tons more.
10-19-2018 04:02 AM
andrews2547
Quote: Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post
There are a handful of jap cars from that era I just like. Like the MR2 and Miata. But Honestly never liked any of the tin can eco boxes with really cheap interiors. Like the Honda Civics of the world. Though everyone has their own preference on their level of comfort inside a vehicle, I spent enough time in friend's jap "death traps" to never want to own one. Sorry buy I'd take an old Comfy Buick from the late 90's with the 3.8 over any jap eco box. And I hate the grandma look of those old Buicks, but I'd take interior comfort over exterior looks any day of the week.

My first car was a 97 LHS with the 3.5, had almost 300k miles by the time it stopped working. All the bells and whistles you could ask for at the time. God I hate how modern cars don't have those super comfy pillow seats. Thing got around the same mpg my current car gets.... just no where near as fast.

No surprise really that larger vehicles lead in sales these days. I wouldn't buy a car that wasn't sporty.

Smaller cars were by far more popular in the 90s, and a big reason why those jap cars sold well.

You do know more than econoboxes and cheap sports cars came out of Japan in the 90s, right? Also you're comparing an entry level car to a luxury brand car. A 90s Buick might be the same price used as a Civic from the same era is now, but that's for a reason. A better comparison there would be a Lexus/Infiniti to the Buick, or a Cavalier/Prizm to the Civic.
10-19-2018 01:31 AM
HowHardCanItBe lol we are all gold mine fields because data has value, and because data is so unique, it will be harvested/mined for profits and sold to the highest bidder. Welcome to economics/commerce of the 21st century . You are the product and you will be bought and sold.
10-19-2018 01:08 AM
Defoler This is going to be interesting how it will proceed.

If the centre console of the car is built in and non removable, and you are not told before hadn't very clearly "by buying this car you are giving us your data", without any direct op-out option, this is going to be a nightmare legal wise in many countries.

Especially how it will be related to second hand car ownership. Will the seller have to notify the buyer that the manufacturer will still follow the car information and invade their privacy without them having the option to opt-out? Will you lose car features by being opt-out?

I can definitely see someone buying a car and then throwing a lawsuit at the manufacturer for invading their privacy without consent, as a car is not a simple "if you don't like it, don't buy it" option.
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