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02-25-2020 02:57 AM
satinghostrider I am just curious if you increase your cache frequency with tight timings eg. 16-16-16-36 at 1.47V, do you need to touch your VCCSA/VCCIO voltages? I'm currently at 1.38V for vcore and 1.27V for both VCCSA/VCCIO at 4.8Ghz cache and 5.2Ghz core.

I am thinking of dropping my cache down to 47x to reduce my voltages slightly. @reachthesky I saw one of your posts stating you need 1.3V VCCSA/VCCIO for 4.8Ghz-4.9Ghz VCCSA/VCCIO but only need 1.25V for 4.7Ghz frequency.
02-25-2020 01:18 AM
reachthesky I believe the modded bios helps memory OC a little bit. I have CL15-4200(101.63 bclk) in karhu right now. It usually fails at 7% or within 1 minute when using f9 stock bios but with the f11e modded bios, it is still going. I know it doesn't say much since it hasn't yet fully passed 8 hours, but to go from failing right away to not failing right away is a plus and makes me think this bios is at least a little better for mem oc than previous bios I have used. Some of you may be able to revisit your mem overclocks and tighten up a little more, or possibly hit a better clockspeed or improved cas etc. Hopefully the d4 hangups in the past between restarts/boots @4200 were native to F9 though time will tell.

The modded bios also uses different RTT resistance settings for certain memory frequencies. For CL15 4133 on F9 bios, the board used 60/60/60/60/40/40. On this bios, it uses 60/60/20/20/40/40 for CL15 4133. I think this bios may also require slightly less dram voltage for the same clockspeed as well. Haven't tested to see if cpu vcore requirements changed for any given frequency yet, will have to do that later, more interested in seeing if [email protected] can be memtest stabilized at this time. I haven't checked yet but I wonder if it is using 60/60/20/20/40/40 for 4200, could explain why It hasn't errored in karhu(yet!?!?).

One thing to note, booting up behaves differently than the other bios. It does this thing where it spends about 4-5 seconds on code 50 during boot sequences, restarts and ram training. Is this happening fpr anyone else?

A great thing about this bios, the vrm coil whine is much lower. It's not completely gone and is still audible, but it is much better than F9 that's for sure.

In terms of raw performance compared to f9 bios, it feels snappier for sure. Benchmarks are about the same or slightly better. The main thing is that the system actually feels more responsive than it was.

Kudos to @KedarWolf , @Falkentyne and @GeneO for doing this stuff. Much appreciated. Qflash modded bios was a great idea ^^.

I'll probably discover more stuff as I work with the bios but I am very excited to have something new to test out, i'll be sure to post updates. Cheers
02-24-2020 05:56 PM
GeneO
Quote: Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post
My email notification said you originally stated,

"Typical of you to take someone else's work and ideas and take credit for it with no acknowledgement. You are pretty despicable."

*** were you talking about, it was pretty obvious someone requested the saved QFlash with the BIOS with all the mods I did.

BTW, I never upgraded the ME firmware yet, but I'm not sure if it saves with a BIOS. I can update it and check though.
I didn't see your previous post. Hey and thanks for the rep (there is such a button)

Yes, the ME firmware is saved with qflash as I said.

Attached is my master qflash made with an 8086k and I think has the updated ME firmware. Give it a go?

EDIT:
Here is a link to the Intel CSME tool to check the ME firmware and test if it is vulnerable.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...Detection-Tool
02-24-2020 05:50 PM
KedarWolf
Quote: Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
Well I thought you said this wasn't a good idea.

So the big payoff is you can flash an ME update, save it with qflash and transmit that on. If you check, all the current gigabyte BIOS contain ME firmware that is vulnerable.
My email notification said you originally stated,

"Typical of you to take someone else's work and ideas and take credit for it with no acknowledgement. You are pretty despicable."

*** were you talking about, it was pretty obvious someone requested the saved QFlash with the BIOS with all the mods I did.

BTW, I never upgraded the ME firmware yet, but I'm not sure if it saves with a BIOS. I can update it and check though.
02-24-2020 05:45 PM
Wam7
Quote: Originally Posted by reachthesky View Post
How is performance on the modded qflashed bios? That has the older best performing microcodes right?
For the few CPU Benchmarks I did, they were all faster with this F11e. A quick latency check in AIDA showed a small inscrease from ~38.5 to ~38.9 but as this can fluctuate quite a bit even using the same bios/settings then I'm not too fussed about that. Overclocks on CPU and memory are still stable which is what matters to me.

Quote: Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post
Yes, they are my settings on my temp 9600k CPU, I thought it transferred the settings as well. :/
Yes you were right, which seems slightly illogical but could prove handy. If my system couldn't handle your settings I think it would just load the defaults in the same way it does if one overclocks outside of it's limits, though if you load Optimised Defaults before hand then all should be good.
02-24-2020 05:39 PM
GeneO
Quote: Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post
Attached. Master QFlash save.
Are you willing to try flashing a master qflash image made with a different CPU (8086k) loaded with current settings (not optimized default) and updated ME firmware? Qflash does preserve profiles btw.
If so I will post an f11e qflash image.
02-24-2020 05:15 PM
GeneO
Quote: Originally Posted by KedarWolf View Post
Yes, it has the older best performing microcodes and all updated firmware, GOP and all.
Well I thought you said this wasn't a good idea.

So the big payoff is you can flash an ME update, save it with qflash and transmit that on. If you check, all the current gigabyte BIOS contain ME firmware that is vulnerable.
02-24-2020 04:15 PM
KedarWolf
Quote: Originally Posted by reachthesky View Post
How is performance on the modded qflashed bios? That has the older best performing microcodes right?
Yes, it has the older best performing microcodes and all updated firmware, GOP and all.
02-24-2020 04:12 PM
KedarWolf
Quote: Originally Posted by Wam7 View Post
@KedarWolf

Thanks again for the F11e Qflashable bios. I swallowed hard and did a test flash this morning. It worked, though as you did suspect it seemed to take some of your settings, are all these your current settings? This is what I had on first boot into the bios. If they are then it should just be a case of loading Optmized Defaults before saving the bios.



Yes, they are my settings on my temp 9600k CPU, I thought it transferred the settings as well. :/
02-24-2020 02:38 PM
Falkentyne
Quote: Originally Posted by satinghostrider View Post
Does that make a difference for me since I am on fixed vcore? I remember @Falkentyne mentioning it does nothing on fixed vcore.
Just as a matter of clarity, do you guys disable your Thermal Velocity Boost voltage optimisation under fixed vcore? Mine is currently disabled.
None of those settings matter one bit on fixed vcore. I do NOT know if TVB ratio clipping matters or not however (that's supposed to be a laptop setting).
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