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06-23-2019 03:28 PM
JackCY They sell this one now hmm: http://www.phanteks.com/PH-F140HP2.html

But no 120mm, again. Which is what's needed for GPUs.

7 with large blades is more of a pressure design indeed than more blades with lower area per fin.
06-23-2019 02:19 PM
HeroofTime Wow, awesome! That's good to know I ended up with a solid fan setup then.

I emailed Phanteks to get these fans separately from the cooler (just a heads up to anyone who wants a set of them without getting the heat sink). I did become slightly disappointed to find out I got the second revision of the fans (for the sake of having the GPU and CPU fans match perfectly). As described on their website, I have the PH-F140HP fans on my CPU cooler. They no longer have these fans, and have been making PH-F140HP II fans instead for a while now. I ordered directly through them thinking I was going to get the PH-F120HP fans, but instead ended up with the PH-F120HP II fans. It doesn't bother me anymore because this is the closest match I would end up with regardless. Simply put, the first revision of the PH-F120HP fans aren't being made anymore. The following is their email response to me. They were very helpful, straightforward, and the shipment to me was quick after I sent the payment through.

Me: "Hello,

I received the fans today. Thank you for shipping them to me.

I do have one quirk about the fans. The current triple fan setup on my CPU cooler is with the original PH-F140HP model (not the second series). The fans that I expected to be shipped to me was the original PH-F120HP model as described (not the second series). I was hoping all of my fans would match but this is not the case any longer. Do you still sell the original model of the PH-F120HP fan? I have two photos that depict the differences (one from Phanteks website and the other being the ones shipped to me). Thanks."

Phanteks Support: "All the fans we are using are 7 blades instead of 9 blades any more cause 7 blades fans has high static pressure and less issues."
06-23-2019 10:45 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Yet in picture on PH's site HP and MP have different impeller. 7 vs 9 blades.

All the fans look similar but there is always some difference be it in 12cm or 14cm.
Yeah, I know. Phanteks seems to never update changes in cooler fans or case fans in website images. They changed the fans on PH-TC14PE to PH-F140HP_BK2 and PH-F140PH_WT2 which have MP impeller, but cooler images still have older fan impeller in them.

Here is link to Cooling Technique review of newest release of TC12LS-PH and PH-TC14S coolers with MP impeller fans.
http://www.coolingtechnique.com/rece...s.html?start=2

Newegg show MP impeller on PH-TC12SL
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835709039

As for PH-TC12DX, here is video review done April 2016 with fans having MP impellers.

So, 3 or 4 years ago Phanteks changed their 120mm cooler fans to fans with 120mm MP impeller.
06-23-2019 08:00 AM
JackCY Yet in picture on PH's site HP and MP have different impeller. 7 vs 9 blades.

All the fans look similar but there is always some difference be it in 12cm or 14cm.
06-23-2019 05:35 AM
doyll You have what many of us consider the best 120mm fan Phanteks makes.
PH-F120HP and PH-F120MP both use same motor and impeller, so basically are same fan with different model number on them.
06-22-2019 07:51 PM
HeroofTime Interesting. By those stats, are the fans that I have more efficient than the PH-F120MPs at the same speed? I'm just curious. In the end, I really don't mind either way because these fans are all white like my CPU fans are. Attached is a photo of my system currently.
06-22-2019 04:16 AM
doyll PH-F120HP (As you know) only come on coolers. I prefer PH-F120MP which has 1.72mm H2O and 53.3cfm @ 1800rpm compared to HP having 1.29mm H2O and 54.4cfm @ 1300rpm. The airflow specs somewhat kinda misleading because the MP's higher pressure rating means more airflow against resistance while their free airflow rating is a little lower than HP, but we rarely if ever us a fan in in situations there is no resistance, so the 1.72mm H2O vs 1.29mm H2O is means much more than airflow.
06-21-2019 03:42 PM
HeroofTime For sure! Always glad to share what I've come up with. I'm very happy with the fans. They get the job done very well and quietly. Again, I'll be back to share my full experience at another point in time with photos.
06-21-2019 04:19 AM
doyll Thanks HeroofTime for posting your results.
So, are you happy with your two white Phanteks PH-F120HP fans on cooler?
06-19-2019 04:34 PM
HeroofTime It's a shame I never got around to updating this thread with my results. If I can, I'll come back another time with an actually detailed post.

To summarize my results, I got around to slapping on two white Phanteks PH-F120HP fans that I had purchased from Phanteks. They come with the PH-TC12DX cooler, but I got the fans separately from the cooler for a cheaper price thankfully. I won't go into detail what I covered with heat sinks. I will go into detail (with pictures) as to what I covered with heat sinks later. I assembled everything together and run the fans off of the motherboard's fan headers. Fan speed is set to auto, and they rarely exceed 1000RPM. They're much quieter than the small triple-fan setup that the stock GPU cooler came with. I genuinely cannot remember how much of an improvement I noticed in raw temperatures, (I will give exact temperatures later) but they rarely exceed 60°C if I remember correctly.

The following is what made me happiest the most. Stock coolers are much more of a drawback now than ever before (if you have a lower end flavor of whatever GPU you have). GPU Boost 3.0 throttles the GPU heavily due to high temperatures. Without touching anything else and simply slapping on the full new cooling assembly, my core overclock went from 2012MHz to 2038MHz (two bins). I was finally able to finish off overclocking the memory too and stopped at 5940MHz. Of course, my 3DMark score went up but I genuinely can't remember by how much it went up when I was doing all the testing. It's been too long for me to remember such small details. Like I said, I'll try to gather up all the information I had previously and will share it all at a later date. I can definitely confirm everything stayed absolutely stable. I do not experience crashing whatsoever in any game that I play, on top of the countless hours I put into making sure it's stable like this.

There's two major issues that upset me about the assembly. Not enough full-size heat sinks for the memory chips, and the full-size heat sinks not fitting under the heat pipes of the Morpheus II in the first place. I had to file them down two to three millimeters in order for them to sit under the Morpheus II's heat pipes when mounted to the GPU.

EDIT: Just ran 3DMark and GPU temperature peaked at 63°C. Max power drawn was 316.5W (127% of 250W). Will update with gaming results later.

EDIT 2: Played PUBG for over 1.5hrs and attached a picture showing peak values for temperature, power, clocks, etc. I was watching which bins my GPU was sitting at when I was playing PUBG, and I can firmly say that it was staying at the top two bins (2025MHz, 2038MHz) 95% of the time. Fan speeds show peaks of 1,225RPM and 1,207RPM. I genuinely never noticed them get up that high, but HWiNFO doesn't lie so there you have it! They must be quiet regardless.
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