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03-21-2019 02:06 AM
Timur Born The air-flow might be just equally bad, because at higher GPU fan-speeds the difference between panel on and off is bigger. There even is insulation material on the side panels (bitumen + fabric) to keep noise down. It helps to use an AIO for the CPU, though, even with the radiator heat blowing into the case. Running Prime 95 Small FFT along-side does not make any difference, even with the radiator/case-fans spinning up towards 1000-1300 rpm then. Overall there is plenty of empty space in there, which likely matters most.

At 100% fan-speed (3300 rpm) and open panel the temps stay at 53°C with constant 2025 MHz and 39-40 fps. If more of the smoke is placed in the view then clocks dip down to 2010. 80% (2650 rpm) can keep the clocks and fps mostly the same, but temps increase towards 57°C. Even with auto-fan curve and temps rising towards 69°C with a closed side-panel frame-rates stay around 39 fps, so it all doesn't matter too much in practice.

I tested this all at a position with 740 materials, 23 light-sources, around 9.1 - 9.3 m triangles and some of the smoke being visible.

On a side note: Removing the 280 mm fan-window from the side-panel (or the whole panel) has much less of an impact than it had before with my GTX 780 GHz Edition. With the latter card removing the window would easily lower temps by 10°C. That's likely because the old card blew more hot air towards the side-panel and then pulled the same air back in again, while the Asus Dual blows more hot air upwards and thus away from its own fan intakes.
03-21-2019 12:41 AM
Vaselkov
Quote: Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post
Using the default auto fan-curve I get 67°C with open side-panel and 69°C with closed side-panel. The GPU fans spin at around 50% at this point. GPU clock at constant 1995 MHz.
Curiously most of the heat seems to point upwards instead of outwards, despite the heat-sink's fin orientation.
Keep in mind that at this low CPU/VRM load my case fans only spin below 500 rpm (4x push/pull on intake CPU AIO radiator + 1x rear).
Temps looks really good. Also your case cooling is quite good as it gets only 2 degrees warmer.

Quote: Originally Posted by lightsout View Post
Apparently my temps are similar to yours. Which I agree are fine. But with max power at 2025mhz I got up to 69c with Superstition.
Looks good.
03-21-2019 12:34 AM
Timur Born
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaselkov View Post
This image explains why the second fan is placed off relative to the heatsink. The old heatsink was more centered and Asus likely just kept the whole fan shroud construction the same while changing the heatsink proportions/positions. And with no air being pushed into the higher fins at the right side (of the image) the larger construction doesn't help as much as it should.

The auto-fan curve keeps the fans mostly below 1500 rpm, 100% corresponds to around 3300 rpm.
03-20-2019 05:52 PM
lightsout
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaselkov View Post
When you look closely that "triple slot" heatsink is not that big. Still, don't really care about the temps, unless those are less than 5 degrees from thermal throttle temps.
Fan itself uses like 1/3 of all thickness and runs 1k to 2.1k rpm with default fan curve at acceptable noise levels. But 2.3k to 3k sounds like a jet!
Apparently my temps are similar to yours. Which I agree are fine. But with max power at 2025mhz I got up to 69c with Superstition.
03-20-2019 05:21 PM
Timur Born
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaselkov View Post
Just lauch as game, watch the TDP monitoring and find spot to look at which consumes the most TDP, leave it for 30mins.
Using the default auto fan-curve I get 67°C with open side-panel and 69°C with closed side-panel. The GPU fans spin at around 50% at this point. GPU clock at constant 1995 MHz.

Curiously most of the heat seems to point upwards instead of outwards, despite the heat-sink's fin orientation.

Keep in mind that at this low CPU/VRM load my case fans only spin below 500 rpm (4x push/pull on intake CPU AIO radiator + 1x rear).
03-20-2019 03:58 PM
Vaselkov
Quote: Originally Posted by lightsout View Post
Yeah very true I agree, those temps are not bad for a single card. I guess I was just hoping that they went triple slot to get similar cooling with a single fan. But I would need to do more testing on mine to see what the temps really are. I don't get the triple slot thing, these cards don't seem to run extra hot.
When you look closely that "triple slot" heatsink is not that big. Still, don't really care about the temps, unless those are less than 5 degrees from thermal throttle temps.
Fan itself uses like 1/3 of all thickness and runs 1k to 2.1k rpm with default fan curve at acceptable noise levels. But 2.3k to 3k sounds like a jet!
03-20-2019 03:29 PM
Vaselkov
Quote: Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post
I do not own the paid version, so I cannot run the stress test, but only the benchmark. Room temperature was around 23°C during the following tests.
Just lauch as game, watch the TDP monitoring and find spot to look at which consumes the most TDP, leave it for 30mins.
03-20-2019 11:46 AM
lightsout
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaselkov View Post
I don't know if running one fan quite small card overclocked at max TDP 77c is considered a high temp. Without the case side panel it runs 75c max. With no OC, side panel on, it runs 72c max. In less TDP demanding games this card with oc runs 65-73c, so it really depends.

XC Ultra obviously has better cooling, that's why you pay quite more for it. Still 65c doesn't say me a lot as I don't know if it is stock or oc and on what game or benchmark you tested.

Edit: What I saw from the reviews Evga 2060 XC Ultra runs 70c with no oc. So with max oc it should run 72-74c and perform slightly better that single a fan Evga card.
Yeah very true I agree, those temps are not bad for a single card. I guess I was just hoping that they went triple slot to get similar cooling with a single fan. But I would need to do more testing on mine to see what the temps really are. I don't get the triple slot thing, these cards don't seem to run extra hot.
03-20-2019 07:59 AM
Timur Born
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaselkov View Post
Triple slot 2 fan cooler OPAF!
It's worth mentioning that the Asus Dual does not use a full triple slot cooler, but what Asus calls 2.7x slot. This allows me to use the third slot for another PCIe card and still have some millimeters room between the Asus fan and the other card.

For testing I put a Creative X-Fi Titanium into the lower x16 slot beneath the 2060. The X-FI's size is about half the length of the 2060 and thus obstructs one fan. As I mentioned earlier the other fan is poorly placed somewhat over empty space by Asus.

At 100% fan-speed temperatures maxed out at 59°C with an open side-panel. Not too bad considering the partial fan obstruction. I also still had the protective foil around the fans (on the plastic blind) of the 2060, which may minimally/additionally hinder airflow through the few millimeters small slit.
03-20-2019 06:55 AM
Timur Born
Quote: Originally Posted by Vaselkov View Post
It would be very interesting to see what temps are after ~30mins of superposition at max TDP with max OC!
I do not own the paid version, so I cannot run the stress test, but only the benchmark. Room temperature was around 23°C during the following tests.

At 100% fan-speed temperature maxes out at 53°C with open side-panel and 57°C with closed side-panel. Noise is awful then.

At 50% fan-speed temperature maxes out at 64°C with open side-panel and 66°C with closed side-panel. Noise is quite tolerable, but still clearly audible in an otherwise quiet system.

At 40% fan-speed temperature maxes out at 74°C with closed side-panel. Noise is very tolerable but still audible in an otherwise quiet system. Since CPU/VRM load is low during the benchmark all other fans of my system spin well below 500 rpm, so there is little air-flow or noise.

2040 MHz below 52°C, 2025 MHz below 57°C, 2010 MHZ below 62°C, 1995 MHz below 68-72°C (fluctuating), 1980 MHz minimum at 74°C. Results for "1080P Extreme" vary between 5025 to 4950 when fan-speed is lowered in between runs.
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