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02-18-2019 06:54 AM
Grin 7+14 in I/O actually
02-18-2019 12:43 AM
Hwgeek
Quote: Originally Posted by Rabit View Post
CPUs coming quite soon Staring from June for Server and July for desktop

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Even tho its all rumors, I do believe 7/7/19 could be very important date for 7nm products. (7nm/7nm/7nm+12nm)
02-17-2019 06:20 PM
AlphaC How is that any different than now? If you buy a mid-end X370/X470 they're generally already struggling with sustained AVX loads with R7 2700X when overclocked.


What I think will happen is that if there's a 12 core the PPT (package power tracking) will be constrained under all core load (something akin to 130-150W) and when you have a good board the power limit will be lifted higher via BIOS to 200W or more. That's not going to change light load such as 4 core loads provided the power gating built into the Zen 2 chips is decent.
02-17-2019 02:51 PM
Grin I guess all maybe correct, but...

The top Zen’s will work only on top 370-470 boards, the middle will go to the middle boards because of vrm power. Nobody exactly promised that the new Zen’s with 12-16 cores will work on 320 chipset mobo.
02-16-2019 05:48 PM
Rabit CPUs coming quite soon Staring from June for Server and July for desktop

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02-15-2019 04:50 PM
AlphaC Asrock Taichi is the cheapest Asrock board I would buy, the rest on AMD platform aren't great.


The midrange boards such as Killer SLI are worse off than MSI B450 Pro Carbon or the ASUS STRIX x370-F / X470-F (has BCLK).
02-15-2019 01:29 PM
firefox2501 How have the high and mid range amd asrock boards been as of late? The last few boards I've done for my intel builds have been rock solid on power delivery. Has this translated over to the board design for amd as well?
02-14-2019 11:30 AM
AlphaC If it's the X470 Pro Carbon, it's using the same Onsemi parts as the X470 M7. The differences are the PWM controller , 2 extra phases , and doublers on the M7.


If the Pro carbon is a "bad board", so is every other non-flagship basically because short of the X470 STRIX every midrange board is using powerpaks or fewer powerstages. It's a mediocre board in terms of components, but it is priced where it should be (under Taichi).
02-14-2019 11:13 AM
CelticGamer
Quote: Originally Posted by TheHorse View Post
You should have researched boards better. The Gaming Pro Carbon does not have good VRMs and is not future proof, the gaming M7 AC is one of the only X470 MSI boards that is likely to be ready for 3000 series.

Next time you buy a motherboard and plan to keep it for future upgrades (ie an AMD board since Intel likes to screw their customers out of money), think about it like this: spend $150 now and get an average quality board that may or may not be future proof, or spend $200-250 and not have to buy another $150+ motherboard if you want to upgrade to a future processor series. You potentially save $100 or more by buying one quality board once rather than an average quality one twice.
Buildzoid recommended this board in one of his "Best Motherboards for AMD Ryzen 2018" video's which was featured on GamersNexus. His only complaint was the lack of Negative Offset Voltage, and that has been added in a bios update since then.

Here's his quote from that video

"This motherboard has a plenty solid 5 phase VRM. In fact, I was very impressed with this 5 phase VRM in my testing."


The X470 Pro Carbon was the most expensive board I could afford at the time. And being as though I only intended on upgrading to another 8 core 16 thread CPU, the board is more than adequate for that, and can handle such a chip with zero issues at all.

I know you meant to help, but perhaps it's you who should have researched a bit better before making such an unhelpful, misinformed comment.
02-14-2019 08:20 AM
TheHorse There's a difference between "it works" and "it performs well".
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