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03-21-2019 03:11 PM
splangie It's working really well on everything, PCs in particular. Plus there is loads of stuff blocked from the Rokus and Plex server. Pages are loading faster on everything. The news and tech sites are clean as heck. The only Roku channel I have seen an issue on so far is Tubi and I just whitelisted that site. I don't do much else on the web so I can't say anything about YouTube or other sites.
03-20-2019 10:46 PM
randomizer Pi hole is great for getting rid of ads on mobile devices that don't have root access. It is of limited benefit on a desktop, but it does kill off things like telemetry from AV progams too.
03-20-2019 09:12 AM
xJumper
Quote: Originally Posted by splangie View Post
Do the browser ad blockers stop the queries out bound or clean up the returning data?
uBlock does do that, so anything on it's block list would never hit piHole. In my experience it would be easier to run a very strict blocking policy at the client in the browser, if something breaks it's easier to allow/disable for that specific thing while still having a very strict blocking policy. With something like pihole, if something breaks you gotta do a lot more to whitelist it and allow it through which means you'll likely run a much less strict blocking policy. So running strict uBlock it's unlikely that you would have something let through that pihole would then catch.

Maybe for IoT devices, but like I said those are like phones, only reason that's useful is because they have ad serving applications hard installed into them and you have to use those to access the content so blocking by local hosts/hardware level is the only way.
03-19-2019 06:36 PM
splangie
Quote: Originally Posted by xJumper View Post
Is there something piHole and all the other hardware solutions offer that I am missing?

The Pi-Hole cleans up the queries before they go out so there is far less garbage returning. Do the browser ad blockers stop the queries out bound or clean up the returning data? It is blocking all sorts of outbound queries to sites on the blocked list from the Rokus and Smart TV as well. All devices that send any query out the router get scrubbed.
03-19-2019 01:30 PM
xJumper I never really understood the point of pihole and other localized ad blocking solutions, it seems like a backwards way of blocking ads to me. Am I missing something here?

piHole and all similar hardware solutions is basically a new spin on an old concept of blocking through hosts files and re-directing to the local host or somewhere else favorable. Why would I want to block at the router level or the OS level when I can block straight at the browser and only at the browser. It's easier to manage/activate/deactivate/modify and it's all compartmentalized into the browser.

If ads/ad serving domains have their hooks into my system then I've already lost the game. The only advantage I see to the pihole/local hosts method of ad-blocking is on things like mobile where peoples phones are filled with ad-serving applications hard installed into the system, at which point hacking the OS resolving system and making the ad serving domains resolve to local host allows the use of the app without ads/malware. But like I said, that already breaks rules #1 of security, ads shouldn't be on your system to begin with. They should be contained in the small window you have to the world called your internet browser and you block the ads there.

Even on my mobile I block all ads through uBlock and a giant hosts file with it. I have Adaway and a local host entry on my phone just in case I mistakenly install an adware app but so far it's been useless since I don't install any applications that have any adware on them. On the desktop it seems irrelevant if you use ad-block on the browser and configure your firewall properly.

Is there something piHole and all the other hardware solutions offer that I am missing?
03-19-2019 10:16 AM
xxicrimsonixx Using Brave Browser... Working great so far!
03-18-2019 09:03 PM
splangie Here are the last 24 hours through the Hole. I have it set as the DHCP server now so all queries go through it automagically and get recorded. 20 bucks for a Pi, plus 5 for ps and 10 for an sd. Hook it to your LAN and a few clicks later you could be done. Incredible.
02-07-2019 08:05 PM
splangie
Quote: Originally Posted by doritos93 View Post
Truly beautiful. Quantifies all the time and resources stolen from me by the scumsuckers developing today's web

Took literally 30 mins to set up.

Glad to see you are taking advantage. It makes perusing a lot easier.
02-06-2019 03:34 PM
splangie
Quote: Originally Posted by doritos93 View Post
https://blog.cryptoaustralia.org.au/...ng-up-pi-hole/

Here's this and start a thread if you need a hand

That is a good article and should cover it for most. I do recommend using etcher, but you should NOT under power your Pi. Use a 2A ps not a 1.
02-06-2019 02:56 PM
doritos93
Quote: Originally Posted by TK421 View Post
Is there a newbie guide to set pi hole up?


I have zero knowledge on how to do it.
https://blog.cryptoaustralia.org.au/...ng-up-pi-hole/

Here's this and start a thread if you need a hand
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