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02-15-2019 03:18 PM
TUFinside Wow! You want to be a NASA engineer just to run a CPU at home..
02-10-2019 11:57 PM
braincracking Yeah, I meant price in rmb converted to usd, there is a stronger pump inside with 12M head, and 13L/min. Since they have loads of models, I wouldn't be surprised at all they are the OEM of a lot of chillers lol.
02-10-2019 01:28 PM
Baasha Those chillers seem to need a lot of setup - tubing etc.

I just want a plug & play type of thing so I might end up sticking to the EKWB AIO.

LD Cooling's solution is plug & play but they don't make one for this CPU.
02-10-2019 11:14 AM
J7SC
Quote: Originally Posted by braincracking View Post
Mhh, I can buy https://www.amazon.com/CW-5200AH-Ind.../dp/B01GWZWGX0 in China for around ~300 USD, you all made me horny and wanting, so I might just do it lol.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...ucket=3#detail

It seems like a better unit then the eiszeit, it also seems like the oem of the eiszeit ^^

...the price for the first one seems to have tripled to US$1010 - may be your OCN link raised demand and prices

...didn't see a mention re. built-in pumps - as to OEM of the Eiszeit, it's not (yet?) on this special plagarius 'HOF' list
02-10-2019 05:40 AM
braincracking Mhh, I can buy https://www.amazon.com/CW-5200AH-Ind.../dp/B01GWZWGX0 in China for around ~300 USD, you all made me horny and wanting, so I might just do it lol.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...ucket=3#detail

It seems like a better unit then the eiszeit, it also seems like the oem of the eiszeit ^^
02-09-2019 06:24 PM
J7SC
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
A Hailea fishtank chiller (HC-1000A or HC-2200BH, for the 1HP and 2HP motors respectively) is probably a lot cheaper than that Alphacool and will actually work even better Minimum water temp is 4c but can be modified to go lower. You would also need a pump. Standard PC watercooling pumps work well unless you are looking to go subzero with glycol.

A modified window AC unit with a tank built around the evaporator can do the job for $130, but is pretty ugly looking lol.

The Alphacool does have a powerful pump (30w) built right in, with a lift rating of 10m (32feet+)...in any case, it all depends how much Baasha wants to spend and wants to cool the oc'ed w3175x and perhaps other equipment (he likes his Hi-Po GPUs !). In any case, apart from Alphacool's 1500w monster and Hailea's offerings, there's also Koolance which makes a 800w model.

I don't even know if the Alphacool would run on 110v, but for top of the line and 'completeness' (i.e. pumps etc), it's hard to beat..spec sheet is here
02-09-2019 05:56 PM
Hydroplane
Quote: Originally Posted by Baasha View Post
Hmm.. good point. Yea, I was hoping LD would create a new phase-change cooler for this CPU but I'm not sure they're even creating new stuff now. Yes, their cases are amazing. Was really close to getting one before going with a Mountain Mods case for my 4x 580 Classified setup back in the day.





Never heard of them - is it this one:

Where do you get the bracket/piping (aka setup) for the 3175-X CPU?

Since my rig is in another room, I don't care if it's somewhat loud and takes up space - if it can work easily and work well, I would like to get it. Although it seems like NewEgg doesn't have it.
A Hailea fishtank chiller (HC-1000A or HC-2200BH, for the 1HP and 2HP motors respectively) is probably a lot cheaper than that Alphacool and will actually work even better Minimum water temp is 4c but can be modified to go lower. You would also need a pump. Standard PC watercooling pumps work well unless you are looking to go subzero with glycol.

A modified window AC unit with a tank built around the evaporator can do the job for $130, but is pretty ugly looking lol.
02-09-2019 02:18 PM
J7SC Alphacool is quite big in PC (and other industrial) cooling and they have several related threads at OCN. Here's the direct link to the 1500w chiller Shipping costs may be quite significant, given size and weight
02-09-2019 01:16 PM
Baasha
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
The phase change units do well with 4-6 core CPUs. For example the LD unit can pull down to -30C at 300W. But at the 1000W+ power use of these 18-28 core CPUs (at the clocks achievable with subambient cooling) the temperatures will increase. Still usable, but won't be very cold compared to a chiller or similar.

I'm looking at various chiller setups for my test bench. Nice thing is I can customize them in terms of chiller capacity (1/2 to 2hp), cooling fluid, etc. Plus you can use them for GPUs. Works with compatible off the shelf water cooling parts, but basically takes the place of the radiator. You could achieve temps similar to a single stage phase change with the right setup.

The phase change solution is probably more elegant, though. The LD PC-V10 cases are so nice looking (I'd know, I own a LD PC-V7 lol). They are still available.
Hmm.. good point. Yea, I was hoping LD would create a new phase-change cooler for this CPU but I'm not sure they're even creating new stuff now. Yes, their cases are amazing. Was really close to getting one before going with a Mountain Mods case for my 4x 580 Classified setup back in the day.



Quote: Originally Posted by J7SC View Post
^^ This. I have a powerful phase cooler which can bring 4 / 6 and sometimes even 8 cores down to -30 on loads, -45c idle. The problem with single phase coolers (leaving out dual or triple phase monsters which have watt, size and noise issues for consumer applications) is that they cannot react fast enough on heavy-core count CPUs (8c and up) when load suddenly increases, such as a Cinebench run...30 sec later, they may get there, but in the meantime...things crashed.

There are some HD chillers out there which do around 800w, and others like 'Eiszeit' from Alphacool with around 1500w...for a W3175x, and may be a GPU or two, not a bad start...
Never heard of them - is it this one:





Where do you get the bracket/piping (aka setup) for the 3175-X CPU?

Since my rig is in another room, I don't care if it's somewhat loud and takes up space - if it can work easily and work well, I would like to get it. Although it seems like NewEgg doesn't have it.
02-09-2019 12:13 PM
J7SC
Quote: Originally Posted by Hydroplane View Post
The phase change units do well with 4-6 core CPUs. For example the LD unit can pull down to -30C at 300W. But at the 1000W+ power use of these 18-28 core CPUs (at the clocks achievable with subambient cooling) the temperatures will increase. Still usable, but won't be very cold compared to a chiller or similar.

I'm looking at various chiller setups for my test bench. Nice thing is I can customize them in terms of chiller capacity (1/2 to 2hp), cooling fluid, etc. Plus you can use them for GPUs. Works with compatible off the shelf water cooling parts, but basically takes the place of the radiator. You could achieve temps similar to a single stage phase change with the right setup.

The phase change solution is probably more elegant, though. The LD PC-V10 cases are so nice looking (I'd know, I own a LD PC-V7 lol). They are still available.

^^ This. I have a powerful phase cooler which can bring 4 / 6 and sometimes even 8 cores down to -30 on loads, -45c idle. The problem with single phase coolers (leaving out dual or triple phase monsters which have watt, size and noise issues for consumer applications) is that they cannot react fast enough on heavy-core count CPUs (8c and up) when load suddenly increases, such as a Cinebench run...30 sec later, they may get there, but in the meantime...things crashed.

There are some HD chillers out there which do around 800w, and others like 'Eiszeit' from Alphacool with around 1500w...for a W3175x, and may be a GPU or two, not a bad start...
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