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01-02-2020 09:31 AM
Shawnb99
Quote: Originally Posted by Barefooter View Post
When I ordered my case it came with two radiator mounts, and there was an option of either 480 mounts or 560 mounts. I ordered my case with 560mm radiator mounts, plus two extras so I have four 560mm mounts.

The case and the mounts did require modification to fit the Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 560mm radiators however. I covered how I did that on this post Fitting and Mounting the Top 560mm Hardware Labs SR2 Radiators

I also showed how I mounted the bottom and the front radiators on separate posts.

If you have not seen it yet, Post#2 is my Build Log Index with Links which is also linked at the top of the first post.

That makes it easier to find stuff

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Ah nice. I don't think they had that option for the original TH10.

Very nice build. Wish I was that handy with the mods, am very impressed with how it turned out for you.
01-01-2020 12:36 PM
Barefooter
Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
What radiator mounts are you using for the top? I thought the case only came with 480 drop in mounts, was this changed in future versions of this case?
When I ordered my case it came with two radiator mounts, and there was an option of either 480 mounts or 560 mounts. I ordered my case with 560mm radiator mounts, plus two extras so I have four 560mm mounts.

The case and the mounts did require modification to fit the Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 560mm radiators however. I covered how I did that on this post Fitting and Mounting the Top 560mm Hardware Labs SR2 Radiators

I also showed how I mounted the bottom and the front radiators on separate posts.

If you have not seen it yet, Post#2 is my Build Log Index with Links which is also linked at the top of the first post.

That makes it easier to find stuff

.
12-24-2019 03:38 PM
MonarchX Where did you learn how to do all this? Have you thought about hiding cables somehow? They stand out...
12-23-2019 02:27 PM
ruffhi
Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
removing 90 degree fittings from the first few inches of your pumps' out can also drastically increase flow as well.
I have those rounded snake 90º in ... and I do have a left turn straight out of my pump. Not much I can do about that. I will have a think about what I can do re pump location.
12-23-2019 06:52 AM
skupples removing 90 degree fittings from the first few inches of your pumps' out can also drastically increase flow as well.

BP makes snake 90s that're a much less extreme bend, they help a great deal in this area. removing the hard 90s from the mouth of my mcp35x2 allowed another 100lph, no lies. from ~120 to 220.
12-23-2019 03:18 AM
ruffhi
Quote: Originally Posted by Barefooter View Post
I remember reading in your build log that you have a filter installed. If it is the Aqua Computer Inline Filter, those are very restrictive as you can see in this flow test done by fast_fate https://www.overclock.net/forum/25894531-post635.html

I would try to bypass the filter or remove the filter and test your flow rate again if you have not tried that yet.
I took the filter out ... and then put it back in with a bypass. Still fiddling. I have actually moved my PC to a Thermaltake case (sacrilege!) and it is running on air. I couldn't believe how quiet the study is with no PC here. Under air it is about as quiet as before.

Meanwhile, my S5 is downstairs undergoing a minor update (swapping to different fans, installing BarrowCH flow meter, installing Aquacomputer SPLITTY9 active, changing 1 90º turn to low profile version, installing switches for left and right pump, etc).

I will be doing some flow tests with nothing in the loop (res + pump) and then adding 2 x radiators, CPU block, GPU block and, finally, the filter. I will do a write up about this in my thread.
12-22-2019 02:20 PM
Shawnb99 What radiator mounts are you using for the top? I thought the case only came with 480 drop in mounts, was this changed in future versions of this case?
12-22-2019 01:55 PM
MonarchX Is it not the definition of perfection itself?
12-22-2019 01:50 PM
Barefooter
Quote: Originally Posted by ruffhi View Post
Those are excellent results. I have noticed the pump noise change with different RPMs too ... and you can dial it up / down to you find a sweet spot re noise.

Re your flow rates, that is radically different from what I am seeing on my PC. My cooling loop ...

  • 2 x radiators (Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 120.3 Multiport Satin White Radiator - white with white fins)
  • 2 x pumps (Aquacomputer D5 Pump Core | PWM Equipped)
  • 1 x pump header (EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 Serial)
  • 1 x GPU block (Watercool HEATKILLER® IV for GTX 1080 - ACETAL Ni)
  • 1 x CPU block (Watercool HEATKILLER® IV Pro (Copper AN))

I have gone back and forth with my loop. I started with quite a few hard 90º turns but swapped them out for the triple rotary snakes.

I had one run that I have been thinking about ... I just swapped it from soft plastic to a complete run of fittings.

Flow has always been pretty horrible. At 100%, (pre fitting run), I could get 1.2 GPM. I was running it at about 75% and getting a flow rate of 0.95 GPM. After swapping to the full fitting run, flow has dropped to 0.9 GPM at 100%. I am currently getting 0.65 GPM at 80%.

I thought that one of my pumps might be bad so I installed a on/off switch on each pump. I can either run it with both pumps or turn the left or right pump off. Turning off one pump (either one), cuts the flow rate to under 0.4 GPM. Conclusion - each pump is as good as the other one.

My flow meter (Aquacomputer flow rate sensor "high flow USB" G1/4) could be off? I have ordered a different flow, Barrowch that is in the mail.

I am going to swap back to air and test each component re flow restriction.

I don't think switching styles of 90° fittings will make much difference at all in your flow rate. I remember awhile back now probably at least five years ago, that Martins Liquid Lab did a test with various amounts of 90° fittings in a loop to test how it affected the flow rates, and even with a lot of 90° fittings it really did not make hardly any difference at all. The last time I looked for that test I was unable to find it to reference here. I have seventeen 90° fittings in this build.

I remember reading in your build log that you have a filter installed. If it is the Aqua Computer Inline Filter, those are very restrictive as you can see in this flow test done by fast_fate https://www.overclock.net/forum/25894531-post635.html

I would try to bypass the filter or remove the filter and test your flow rate again if you have not tried that yet.

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12-09-2019 05:01 AM
ruffhi
Quote: Originally Posted by Barefooter View Post
Hey ruffhi, I did do some flow testing of the loop after it was completely finished, and I of course took notes, but after your question I realized that that information never made it into any of the build log posts.

I could run the pumps at a lower speed just fine, but since they are no louder running at 100% and the loop temperatures really did not vary too much with the pumps set to lower speeds, I would prefer to have a higher flow rate so I just leave the pumps set at 100% all the time.
Those are excellent results. I have noticed the pump noise change with different RPMs too ... and you can dial it up / down to you find a sweet spot re noise.

Re your flow rates, that is radically different from what I am seeing on my PC. My cooling loop ...

  • 2 x radiators (Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 120.3 Multiport Satin White Radiator - white with white fins)
  • 2 x pumps (Aquacomputer D5 Pump Core | PWM Equipped)
  • 1 x pump header (EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 Serial)
  • 1 x GPU block (Watercool HEATKILLER® IV for GTX 1080 - ACETAL Ni)
  • 1 x CPU block (Watercool HEATKILLER® IV Pro (Copper AN))

I have gone back and forth with my loop. I started with quite a few hard 90º turns but swapped them out for the triple rotary snakes.

I had one run that I have been thinking about ... I just swapped it from soft plastic to a complete run of fittings.

Flow has always been pretty horrible. At 100%, (pre fitting run), I could get 1.2 GPM. I was running it at about 75% and getting a flow rate of 0.95 GPM. After swapping to the full fitting run, flow has dropped to 0.9 GPM at 100%. I am currently getting 0.65 GPM at 80%.

I thought that one of my pumps might be bad so I installed a on/off switch on each pump. I can either run it with both pumps or turn the left or right pump off. Turning off one pump (either one), cuts the flow rate to under 0.4 GPM. Conclusion - each pump is as good as the other one.

My flow meter (Aquacomputer flow rate sensor "high flow USB" G1/4) could be off? I have ordered a different flow, Barrowch that is in the mail.

I am going to swap back to air and test each component re flow restriction.
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