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03-06-2019 10:23 AM
Karch I think there’s some confusion, I’m not running the 9600k, it’s still in the box along with the mobo, I’m going to sell it and wait and see (Ryzen 3 and finances are driving this decision), so my comments were about the 3770K cpu.

Thank you.


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03-06-2019 10:12 AM
white owl Depends on how it's running now.
If it's running 100% stock, yes overclocking will help.
If it's running z390 stock where MCE and more TDP is allowed by default, no overclocking won't get you as much as it would over stock.
BF5 is hard enough on the CPU to be able to max out 6 threads easily so overclocking at the very least will improve minimums as always. 4.5ghz isn't much for that CPU, should be able to OC to 4.7/4.8 without too much fuss. Or you could just enable MCE.
I had issues overclocking a 4790k with a 212 Evo without AVX, once you allow MCE I can imagine your thermals will be in the 80s when playing BF which isn't ideal.


And yeah, any competitive game you can think of is run on low settings to remove grass and improve framerate. Why on earth they picked that title for RTX is beyond me.
03-06-2019 09:59 AM
Karch I just wanted to circle back and thank everyone for their input.

I installed the 2133 memory and manually set it to the XMS settings, at 1.65V, also on the webpage.

It took a couple of times to boot to Windows but seems to be fine now.

I lowered my settings in Battlefield V and it’s running well. I lowered them less for the frame rates and more so I can see the enemies, apparently that’s what a lot of people do?

I don’t know, it’s a shame, IMO, that you have a game that is so visually stunning, but if you can have enough hardware to run it with so much detail, that you suffer getting killed constantly because not only are you not seeing the enemy, but that the enemy is often running so low detail that they can see through what you perceive to be solid objects and get killed.

And I don’t even know a thing about what other means others are doing, like mods, hacks, etc.

Anyway, my next step is to install the new CPU cooler. I’m running at 4.5 ghz, hottest it gets is 73C on one core, others are a couple degrees below that.

Other than bragging rights, does it make sense to run the clock higher? Would it actually improve the gaming experience, or is it just to say it’s running faster?

Again, thank you all, you’ve been a big help.


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02-21-2019 12:18 PM
Karch Thanks for your input.

In the post above yours, I mentioned I just got a new cooler.

Also, and I don’t know if it matters, but the mobo I purchased is a Gaming 4, not the Extreme 4.

I have to check my low % framerates but I think I am getting very decent rates on the old 3770K such that it might make the 9600k unnecessary at this point, as BF V is the most CPU intensive thing I do usually.

BTW, I have read a lot of your posts in the Z390 threads [emoji1303]


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02-21-2019 11:40 AM
Moparman First the 9600k/Extreme 4 will be a nice upgrade over the 3770k. Second nothing is wrong with the Extreme 4 you picked up and I would use it. For mem i would at least get a good 3200C14 2x8gb kit as it will help performance. The cpu cooler is going to need to be much better than the 212 for the 9600k and I would look at a nice tower or dual tower cooler. The 9600k build I have currently is running at 5.1ghz using a Deep Cool Assassin cooler and never see over 68c load temps and does very well with my 980ti SLI setup using the Aorus Master z390 board.

If you want to go with a CLC I would only get a 280/360 one and nothing smaller if you go that route.
02-21-2019 10:51 AM
Karch Quick update:

Just received the new cooler


And I bought some memory, F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH

Older review looks promising, and it is on the QVL for my board.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...00CL9Q-16GBZH/

Thanks again for your input.


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02-18-2019 05:31 PM
Karch I was doing the freq/cl for DDR4, I guess the same rule applies.

I have to see how much room I will have with the new cpu cooler before buying memory.

Thanks.


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02-18-2019 04:56 PM
blodflekk
Quote: Originally Posted by Karch View Post
10 FPS would be great, 5 is probably worthwhile.

I’m sure I picked up some just going to 4.5ghz on my cpu alone.

Can I ask, what else to look for aside from speed? I’m sure the latency makes a difference? Lower is better, but at what cost?

Sorry for my ignorance.


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It's the relationship between frequency and timings. They are both important but only together if that makes sense. I keep referring back to the simple equation buildzoid talks about when picking ram and states take the frequency and divide by the cas. If you do this to similar kits, the one with the higher answer will be the faster kit. Note this isnt a guarantee across the board for all memory and there will be other factors but it's a good place to start.

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02-18-2019 04:45 PM
UltraMega
Quote: Originally Posted by Karch View Post
10 FPS would be great, 5 is probably worthwhile.

I’m sure I picked up some just going to 4.5ghz on my cpu alone.

Can I ask, what else to look for aside from speed? I’m sure the latency makes a difference? Lower is better, but at what cost?

Sorry for my ignorance.


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Definitely lower is better, but latency is a lot less important than overall speed. If I remember correctly, the CAS latency for DDR3 around that speed ranges from 9-11 so if you can find some at 9, thats as good as it gets. Shouldn't be hard to find. This is the cheapest C9 kit I could find: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corsair-4x-...:pf:0&LH_BIN=1

This ebay seller probably doesn't realize how good that ram kit really is. It's a really good price for that kit, I would buy it sooner than later if you are interested in getting faster ram.
02-18-2019 04:17 PM
Karch 10 FPS would be great, 5 is probably worthwhile.

I’m sure I picked up some just going to 4.5ghz on my cpu alone.

Can I ask, what else to look for aside from speed? I’m sure the latency makes a difference? Lower is better, but at what cost?

Sorry for my ignorance.


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