|Topic Review (Newest First)|
|03-11-2019 09:48 PM|
The Linux drivers were very hit-or-miss with the 2200G and 2400G (Similar APU graphics) sometimes having various levels of functionality using Ubuntu LTS and Mint, even with a newer kernel and PPA's for the latest Mesa releases.
I got fed up with it and let my machine sit until 18.10 came out and I tried Lubuntu with my 2400G. The OS isn't perfect with the Desktop Environment switch, but it has been running very well so far. This late in the game Ubuntu 19.04 beta should be mostly stable and worth the time over 18.10 which is more than halfway through the 9 month support cycle. I'd imagine any of the *buntu's besides Lubuntu would be great choices, but I prefer LXDE/LXQt so I just live with it for now.
Given that things will only get worse (less support, end of security updates) it's probably better to try and make something else like Windows 10 or Linux work. It's a time sink to learn and get half of things working in Linux, but at least it should get easier with time. The days lost on Win7 will be a dead end.
|03-11-2019 07:50 PM|
I actually still have the ASRock board, have not returned it yet (was plan on sending it back tomorrow).
Why should I keep the ASRock over the Gigabyte?
Gigabyte has 1 more PCI-e slot and 4 memory slots. I did like the ASRock BIOS better though. It also had options to Overclock the 200GE.
I may pull it back out though to see if the M2 drive is bad or if it is the board.
|03-11-2019 07:30 PM|
|Redwoodz||Yes you made the right choice except returning the ASRock board. Any ways the Ryzen APU's must have Win10 for full features, and also you must install with UEFI full bios, no legacy or CSM enabled.|
|03-11-2019 07:08 PM|
I actually found that I can use a Windows 7 Key as the Windows 10 key and it be legit.
I have been messing with WMC on Win 10 on my laptop, and it seems to work (I have no TV tuners, but I can get on the network and watch movies and recorded shows from my other HTPC.
I think this will work. Here is hoping. (I was going to put a thumbs up smilie, but don't have smilies any more???).
I just downloaded the latest Win 10 build from Microsoft and made the USB boot drive. I may try tonight, if not, then tomorrow for sure.
|03-11-2019 06:35 PM|
You can install Windows 10 without a license key and use it as long as you'd like for evaluation purposes. You can't change desktop background and a few other "pretty" things, but otherwise its fully functional. Make sure you get version 1809 or newer to avoid update issues and early Win10 issues.
I've been using the evaluation version for a few years now on my mining rigs.
|03-11-2019 03:59 PM|
Well, the Gigabyte board is no better at Win 7 than the Asus board was.
It just will not work. I can get it to load the setup, and even complete the setup, but then at first boot, it blue screens, then make me reinstall.
After about 6 attempts, my M2 SSD is no longer recognized. Not sure if it is a board issue or a SSD issue.
Tried 2 installs on a SSD with same results.
I decided to give Linux a try instead.
I have been playing with Mint on my laptop, so figured I would try that.
Mint apparently does not like the B450/Ryzen either. After about 15 attempts on several versions (19.1 Cinnamon, 19 Cinnamon, MATA, Xfce, and even 18), I finally had to give up.
I tried a few versions of purpose built builds (LinHES, and a few others). Just could not get them to set up.
I finally got Ubuntu to load up on the system, and am trying to get MythTV set up on it. I spent about 10 hours yesterday messing with that. About ready to just return it all and say screw it.
I will mess with it some more tomorrow, I needed to take today off from it. If I can't get it working by then. I am done with it.
I will take my server and turn that into a HTPC since it will accept Windows 7 and take this build and use it for my server (Ubuntu has a server edition).
I just need something for central storage and sharing in the house, nothing taxing, and the 200GE/B450 is more powerful than the 210e/785G I am using now.
@ozlay , I looked into the unofficial WMC for 10, and it looks a little sketchy, but seems to work.
Biggest issue is I have no Win 10 licenses. I have 10+ Win 7 licenses back from my Technet days, but they do me no good if I can't install them on the system to upgrade.
Does 10 have an eval version I could use and test with?
|03-02-2019 08:41 PM|
I believe there is an unofficial port of WMC for windows 10. I'v never used it myself. But it might be worth looking into.
FreeNas is a good alternative to WHS 2011.
|03-02-2019 08:03 PM|
As I'm sure you already know, what you really need for hardware is all going to be based off your own personal needs and how your network is already setup. Me personally, I need at minimum, i3 level CPU performance and 8GB RAM it seems for Windows 10 and Plex Home Theater to be happy playing a full 1080p blu ray. However my Plex server isn't capable of properly transcoding everything these days like it used to (Sandy Bridge i7 level Xeon at 3.5GHz).
Heck, my personal server seems like it wants as much CPU power as I can throw at it. Was actually looking at upgrading to a rack system with probably two 32 core Bulldozer rack systems for my server setup.
From the sounds of it, your media isn't quite as heavy, or maybe I'm just doing something wrong. I wish you luck on getting that all functioning the way you want it, those new Ryzen APU's have me seriously intrigued on how they'd handle HTPC and gaming with a controller on my home theater setup. I'd love to see some pics when you've got everything all done and put together.
|03-02-2019 07:02 PM|
Well, after spending all day trying to get Windows 7 to load properly and not crash, I had to give up.
Seems that ASRock and Microsoft does not want me to do it.
I had to update the MB to the newest BIOS to get it to even start to work.
I used Gigabytes hack to slipstream the drivers into the Windows 7 install, and it did install Windows and it started to work, but as soon as I tried installing any updates, the USB ports quit working. I also had random BSOD with several different errors.
I tried installing a 2 port USB in the PCI-e slot, and I did get it to work after manually installing the drivers, but it was intermitent, as well as getting more BSOD.
I even went up in the attic and dug out a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, and while it did work, it only has 1 plug, so it was either the mouse or keyboard. I could use the on screen keyboard, but that is not a long term solution.
I also could not get Windows to find the M2 drive, it showed up in the BIOS, but was not there to install the OS on.
I am going to return the ASRock board, and am getting a Gigabyte B450M. It seems Gigabyte is a little more supportive of Windows 7 with Ryzen.
If it does not work, guess I will need to find an older CPU that works with Windows 7 (and it sucks that I can't return the 200GE).
I had briefly thought of using my home server (Athlon II 210, Gigabyte 785GMT, 8 gigs DDR3) as the HTPC and using the new build for the server, but I will probably have the same issues, since I use WHS 2011 and it is based off Win 7/Windows Server 2008 R2.
Maybe I will use the server anyway and switch to a Linux based server option?
|02-26-2019 08:03 PM|
OK, order placed.
So I got the 200GE processor, Ballistix Tactical 4GB DDR4 2666 RAM x2, and a ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0.
Total was $160. A little more than I wanted to spend (I have not bought PC products in a while, used to the $30 CPU's and cheap RAM from years ago). If I had stuck with just 4 gigs of RAM, it would have been $25 cheaper, but figured for $25 more, I will never have to worry about RAM.
Seems it is a little issue getting this to work with Windows 7, but hopefully nothing I can't work my way through.
Will be posting back if I have issues with it.
|This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.|