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02-09-2020 12:58 AM
tsamolotoff --and I have to cold boot and toggle my power supply to get it to stick.
That's a prerequisite, you can't change LLC settings and some voltages (like CLDO) without powering down your machine first. It's not a bug, it's how it works (same is true for SMT on/off and some other settings)

--Sometimes if the board clears CMOS due to an unstable configuration it'll reset the clock to 12:00 AM, but not always.
If you did not disable automatic bios switch, please do that (the board automatically switches to the secondary bios if it fails to boot (or if the Moon phase and Saturn's orbit are in alignment)), there's two switches near RAM slot that allow you to disable this "feature"
02-07-2020 03:47 PM
ribosome
Quote: Originally Posted by tsamolotoff View Post
-- We've seen that the commonly assumed 1.325 Vcore for CPU overclocks isn't as safe as previously thought.
I've been running at 1.35V with no issue, it's just some people who are either running Prime95 small fft as their dayjob or some scaremongers at reddit who don't even own Ryzen to know what's causing degradation and what is not. My CPU routinely runs at 1.36+ V in full auto, so it's not an issue from AMD's point of view.

-- It strangely refuses to set 1.1 V for some reason
'Some reason' is LLC, as I already said. If you set it to Extreme (VSOC), it'll be exactly 1.1V
No, I have tried extreme and it still wants to run at 1.08V. I've had the same issue at 1.125V. But I've been able to set 1.15V and it'll stick exactly at that voltage.

I've also had an issue with this board where I set a higher Vsoc and it still wants to run at ~1.08 to 1.1, and I have to cold boot and toggle my power supply to get it to stick.

Sometimes if the board clears CMOS due to an unstable configuration it'll reset the clock to 12:00 AM, but not always.

I think my board is just weird. I tried replacing the battery and that hasn't changed anything.
02-07-2020 12:16 PM
tsamolotoff -- We've seen that the commonly assumed 1.325 Vcore for CPU overclocks isn't as safe as previously thought.
I've been running at 1.35V with no issue, it's just some people who are either running Prime95 small fft as their dayjob or some scaremongers at reddit who don't even own Ryzen to know what's causing degradation and what is not. My CPU routinely runs at 1.36+ V in full auto, so it's not an issue from AMD's point of view.

-- It strangely refuses to set 1.1 V for some reason
'Some reason' is LLC, as I already said. If you set it to Extreme (VSOC), it'll be exactly 1.1V
02-06-2020 02:37 PM
ribosome Thanks guys. Honestly I've given up trying to run at 1900 FCLK. I think I've tried just about everything to get it to run stable at 1.125 Vsoc and it just won't. I'm not terribly comfortable running it close to 1.2 V. As far as I can tell that number is a guess which comes from 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen. I'm not sure why people are assuming that voltage is still safe. We've seen that the commonly assumed 1.325 Vcore for CPU overclocks isn't as safe as previously thought.

I just switched to the calculator's 3600 fast timings at 1:1 (with GDM on) and I get pretty close to the same performance, plus I'm running at closer to 1.08 Vsoc (it strangely refuses to set 1.1 V for some reason). I just passed a memory test at 1000% per thread and I have no issues with random resets.
02-06-2020 02:24 PM
tsamolotoff
Quote: Originally Posted by ribosome View Post
I can't find BCLK spread spectrum in the modded BIOS, but I found SB spread spectrum and I tried disabling that, but it didn't help. I just tried running a memtest on 30 GB, 24 threads and again my system rebooted some decent way through it (I didn't see when exactly it happened). Is that the right one, or should I be looking for a BCLK spread spectrum?
It's either disabled by default or not needed, I've ran the CPU at 102.6 bclk with no issues either for SATA SSDs or NVME stick. Not sure how either Spread spectrum can be related to VSoC overvoltage or memory stability. For me, VSOC is always at 1.10V (sans droop) if XMP is enabled, less than 1V if it's off. The system is stable either way.
02-06-2020 12:45 AM
Maracus
Quote: Originally Posted by ribosome View Post
Anyone have any suggestions for me? Or should I just give up and run at high vSOC?
Sorry been at work, yeah that SoC voltage should be fine as the max safe recommended is 1.2v.
02-04-2020 11:32 PM
ribosome Anyone have any suggestions for me? Or should I just give up and run at high vSOC?
02-03-2020 09:20 AM
laxu What settings would you suggest if I want to get the most out of my 3700X? I have it on a 280mm Corsair H115i AIO and I have already tightened my RAM settings to 3600 MHz CL15.

I am severely confused by the PBO/auto OC etc BIOS settings (F50 BIOS) available as this is my first AMD platform in years and can't seem to find a good guide to get me through what to set here and Ryzen Master settings are not any clearer to me. I wonder if I could get a bit more performance without much change in temps.
02-01-2020 07:25 PM
ribosome
Quote: Originally Posted by Maracus View Post
That seems unusually high, what memory do you have and how much have you overclocked it?
I have two kits (four dimms total) 8 GB/dimm G.Skill Ripjaws V with XMP profile at 3200 MT/s CL14 (F4-3200C14D-16GVR), overclocked to 3800 CL16. It's Samsung B-die. I needed that high vSOC with one kit/two dimms as well.

I can't find BCLK spread spectrum in the modded BIOS, but I found SB spread spectrum and I tried disabling that, but it didn't help. I just tried running a memtest on 30 GB, 24 threads and again my system rebooted some decent way through it (I didn't see when exactly it happened). Is that the right one, or should I be looking for a BCLK spread spectrum?

Here are my current settings. It's pretty much exactly what 1usmus's dram calculator gives for 3800 safe with my configuration. When I have the high vSOC (again around 1.18 V, so not like it is here but that's the only thing that's different) my system doesn't reset spontaneously, and I've run memtest up to 800% per thread with no errors. It's very strange that I can run memtest with no errors apart from the whole system spontaneously crashing. It's not even as though Windows bluescreens or anything, it's more like I just quickly toggled the switch on the power supply.



I also have DRAM power down mode disabled.
I'm wondering if any changing any of these settings might help. Disabling global c-state control perhaps? (Edit: That didn't work. Disabling cool n' quiet didn't work either. Setting PS idle control to typical current idle didn't work either)

02-01-2020 04:27 PM
Maracus
Quote: Originally Posted by ribosome View Post
Awesome, thanks. I'm hoping that disabling spread spectrum might let me run at a lower vSOC. Currently I have to run it at like 1.18V otherwise my computer will just randomly reboot.
That seems unusually high, what memory do you have and how much have you overclocked it?
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