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06-24-2019 05:46 AM
1TM1 I noticed memcadbuscsODTdrvstren=60 cures cold boot restarts.

16GB 3200-14 b-die tested at 3133-14 (PrimeX370Pro MB, errors if higher) with 8 threads of memtest via Dramcalculator151 (12GB) to 800%(100% each) and 8 threads of Prime95blend (2GB) simultaneously, then shutdown pull the plug, then retest to 3200%(400% each) also simultaneously dram151 with prime95. No power cycles after cold boot with memODT60.

Other settings: [email protected]@1.29v, ProcODT53, dram1.39, SOC1.09, other cadbus Auto(24 in BIOS4801 agesa0072a), timings from BIOS-Tool-AsusSPD-XMP#1, TrdrdsclTwrwrscl4, others on Auto, LLC3 CPU 130% 350 extreme, LLC2 SOC 130% 350 extreme.

games CreedUnity and GRW ok in SLI surround 3x1440. POSTs at 3600-16 with ProcODT60 1.45ram 1.15soc but not stable.
Waiting for agesa1001... any day now... should help with b-die
06-23-2019 08:36 AM
upgraditus Even with the 2x8GB E-Die kit I cannot get higher than 3066 and still maintain decent timings, started to regret not stumping up more cash but the equiv X470 is more than double
06-18-2019 09:03 AM
SaccoSVD So I ordered an Asrock X470 Taichi and an extra CPU power cable. The board was 240 Euro not so long ago, now 200 USD / Euro.

I'm almost sure my X370 Pro is not the best to overclock a 3900X (probably the VRM is in the weak side) and I really wanna tinker with the Tai Chi board now.

Main reason for purchase was: Impulse, currently have the cash and wanna see where my 1800X goes with that new board + having a decent MOBO with PBO for the new CPU.

Second reason: After the X570 launch it may happen that this X470 board goes up in price or suddenly is hard to come by.

I guess I'll keep commenting here for a while though.
06-18-2019 06:44 AM
MishelLngelo
Quote: Originally Posted by ObscureScience View Post
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ms...ing,39593.html

Basically, there's no reason for most of us to go above x470.
No, not as long as power delivery is adequate. RAM problem is adequately solved and with right BIOS it should be able to match any maximum CPU frequency. That leaves only PCIe v4.0 and that's hardly going to be of concern next couple of years.
06-18-2019 06:30 AM
ObscureScience
Quote: Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post
So the new Prime X570 Pro supposedly costs 428.37 USD

https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/en/20...r-motherboads/

What?!?! That's even more than the cost of the VI Hero on ryzen gen 1.

MOBO manufacturers went just crazy. And I'm not buying. Is like they went from milking us with Intel boards to milking us with AMD boards.

As I said, if I really need a new MOBO is gonna be a X470 Taichi which costs half of that right now.

I'm sad you cannot curse in this forums because I'm really mad with all this price gauging. What are they thinking?!!?
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ms...ing,39593.html

Basically, there's no reason for most of us to go above x470.
06-18-2019 06:19 AM
MishelLngelo One of main reasons I (almost) never had Intel is because of price gouging, CPUs as well as unreasonably and out of proportion expensive MBs. I haven't heard of any plans to stop x470 production. I wouldn't by x570 MB even if it was at same prices as x370/470 boards since they are quite enough for any new 8/16 and possibly 12/24 Ryzen. My plan is for 3800x as it's next up to my 2700x with a meaningful upgrade.
06-18-2019 05:41 AM
SaccoSVD So the new Prime X570 Pro supposedly costs 428.37 USD

https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/en/20...r-motherboads/

What?!?! That's even more than the cost of the VI Hero on ryzen gen 1.

MOBO manufacturers went just crazy. And I'm not buying. Is like they went from milking us with Intel boards to milking us with AMD boards.

As I said, if I really need a new MOBO is gonna be a X470 Taichi which costs half of that right now.

I'm sad you cannot curse in this forums because I'm really mad with all this price gauging. What are they thinking?!!?
06-16-2019 06:24 AM
upgraditus Well 3200 from base 2933 DOCP wasn't stable, tried ryzen dram calc again without much luck (appeared stable but ultimately failed), then I noticed I've been mixing up fields when inputting timings!

The guide I looked at said you didn't need to pay attention to the order since they are always laid out the same in the BIOS, well; no they are not! it's no wonder I have been having issues LOL. The first field is correct (tCL) but the following two (tRCDRW & tRCDRD) are reversed, probably not an issue for most if they run the same like 15-15-15 but the calc is giving me for eg 16-16-19 and I have been inputting as that but the result is 16-19-16 due to the reversal.

Anyway after realisng my error and correctly inputting the fields I've just tested the fast preset for 3000 which gives me 14-14-16-14-32 which previously failed to boot and now appears fully stable, there is hope yet!

soc voltage on auto is strange, stock freq 2400 is under 0.9v, docp applied gives 2933 and 1v soc, nudge it up to just 3000 and soc jumps to 1.1v, currently using calc rec of 1.0125v.
06-15-2019 07:03 AM
mat9v
Quote: Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post
When you see the tiny 16MB cache in a 9900K you realize these zen chips are something else.

The 3900X has 64MB L3 cache, a total of 70MB between L2 and L3

The 3950X has 72MB L2+L3 cache

So these two are very close to eachother.

I don't think there is ANY need for a gamer or even audio producer (me) to get the 16 core. It is only useful for 3D and Video rendering. Yes you could game with freaking good FPS on it but the price / value is just not there.

I only wonder if precision boost 2 will allow us to crank the one core boost to around 5GHz
According to the podcast of Ian Cutress (from Anandtech) and L1Techs (
) after AMD tech demo, PBO will for the first time allow user to set a frequency target and there were no mention of any limits on that. So it MAY be that the 12 core mini monster will be capable of high frequency if cooled properly and have the 48 MB L3 cache (60 total). Personally this is the one I'm looking for, 16 cores is just too pricey. Unless we learn that 16 cores have mach higher quality silicon due to binning.... then all bets are off for my purchase
Then there is the x570 boards price to take into account and finding one that will feed 16 cores at up to 4.7Ghz may be a challenge (for my checkbook), then there is a cooling for that, I suppose something from EKW or Alphacool would be in order... I suppose together that would be on order of 1300$? The CPU price difference in total cost is not so significant at that point. If one is willing to pay at all, that is
06-14-2019 04:17 AM
SaccoSVD Interesting.

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