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03-20-2019 03:05 PM
Alex132
Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
I'm trying to figure out what logical reason Intel could possible have to release this at the same price. I've only got two guesses;

1.) If it averages a slightly lower power draw.

2.) (More likely) Intel does not want to give consumers a reason to buy any chips without iGPUs because Intel wants people to get used to the idea of having them available in all their CPUs but at the same time they can't afford to throw away these chips. They know the only people who buy the unlocked CPUs are gamers and gamers wouldn't care about the iGPU so 100% of them would go for the cheaper model, and they don't want to start a trend of gamers buying chips without iGPUs… for some reason. They seem to be dedicated to the idea of all chips having iGPUs… except this one.
IIRC this is only for system builders/OEMs.
03-20-2019 02:20 AM
UltraMega I'm trying to figure out what logical reason Intel could possible have to release this at the same price. I've only got two guesses;

1.) If it averages a slightly lower power draw.

2.) (More likely) Intel does not want to give consumers a reason to buy any chips without iGPUs because Intel wants people to get used to the idea of having them available in all their CPUs but at the same time they can't afford to throw away these chips. They know the only people who buy the unlocked CPUs are gamers and gamers wouldn't care about the iGPU so 100% of them would go for the cheaper model, and they don't want to start a trend of gamers buying chips without iGPUs… for some reason. They seem to be dedicated to the idea of all chips having iGPUs… except this one.
03-19-2019 11:39 PM
battlenut I do not want AMD to kill or destroy Intel, I just want to see someone else take a performance crown for a little while. That way prices would drop all around. I hope the same thing for AMD GFX division as well.
03-19-2019 10:53 PM
Majin SSJ Eric
Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
Can you explain how a different monopoly would help the consumer?
I think it was a hyperbolic statement, not that he actually hopes Intel dies and AMD becomes another Intel. The fact of the matter is, companies like Intel and Nvidia who have so massively taken their market share and consumers for granted when making bone-headed decisions like this absolutely SHOULD reap the whirlwind so to speak, and AMD is really the ONLY company that is even capable of keeping them in check.

But to be clear, if Zen 2 and Navi were to somehow turn the tables on Intel and Nvidia so completely that AMD themselves became the new Intel/Nvidia, I'd call them out on it too and start rooting for Intel/Nvidia against them...
03-19-2019 08:47 PM
magnek
Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
From the source:




This is factually incorrect.

The 9900KF has other things disabled too. A quick glance at the ARK pages of both the i9-9900K and i9-9900KF models would have let them report on it correctly:


Intel® vPro™ Platform Eligibility: K: yes, KF: no

Intel® Stable Image Platform Program (SIPP): K: yes, KF: no

Intel® Trusted Execution Technology: K: yes, KF: no

Interestingly, a few weeks ago when the KF model was put in the ARK database, TSX was also mentioned as being disabled, but now it's mentioned as enabled. Was it an error at first or is the now enabled status a result of market segmentation second thoughts?


Now, do those differences change a gamer and / or overclocker's minds about it? Most probably not and ironically, stuff like vPro being disabled may actually make the CPU more secure (even though ME isn't completely disabled as SGX extensions work with it), and Intel knows it and that's why they charge the same, exactly the same reasoning with the disabled iGPU, but still, this should be reported accurately because, depending on the deployment environment, these two CPU's may not be interchangeable aside from the iGPU, as the article suggests.


As a side note, I don't recall them having a 130w thermal solution recommendation up there a few weeks ago, for either CPU. When will they update the CPU's TDP to something more realistic than 95w?
I mean it's Tom's, they're basically The Sun of the tech press, really can't expect too much.
03-18-2019 09:20 AM
mmonnin
Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
Can you explain how a different monopoly would help the consumer?
It's the internet and they can't. They just want the big guy to fall as they can't see 2 seconds into the future to know what they wish for is even worse. Best to just put the trolls on ignore.
03-18-2019 07:49 AM
Alex132 ITT: Everyone thinks they are smarter than Intel and states how "AMD will cream them" in some way in the future.


I do enjoy OCN news threads about AMD/Intel for this reason
03-18-2019 06:30 AM
ToTheSun!
Quote: Originally Posted by guttheslayer View Post
Let hope Zen 2 will kill them. For good.


These chip will die like I7-7740K. Bye intel.
Can you explain how a different monopoly would help the consumer?
03-18-2019 05:56 AM
guttheslayer
Quote: Originally Posted by m4fox90 View Post
Who is making these calls at Intel and why is nobody telling them how dumb it is?
Let hope Zen 2 will kill them. For good.


These chip will die like I7-7740K. Bye intel.
03-18-2019 05:48 AM
looniam
Quote:
Core i9-9900KF marks a shift in Intel's strategy as the company begins selling processors with disabled graphics engines for the first time.
i5-2550K says hello.
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