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05-02-2019 03:18 PM
flyinion
new to WC need a little upcoming build advice on placements

Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
All 30 or 45mm thick rads are not created equal. So, saying "should I do a 30 or a 45?" is impossible to answer. If your intention is to keep the noise to a minimum as you stated, then an HWL 360GTS would be the rad of choice (IMHO) for the front with one set of fans (see low rpm results here, as well as why doing P/P will offer no performance gain - https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/). As far as the top exhaust, it really shouldn't be necessary to have any fans up there, but I haven't used this case so can't say for sure how well it flows. I would try it with and without the 200mm mounted up top..


Thanks. Sorry I should have specified I was looking at the alphacool ST30 V2 vs the xt45. Aesthetically I'd like to keep those 200's on the front (they're ARGB) so I might just end up putting an ST30 up top. Maybe I will make a cardboard mockup though once I get the PC parts to see what will actually fit up top. CM says 43mm but that's also going to be dependent on RAM and VRM cooling so maybe I can get away with a 45 or even a 30 with fans in push still. I've seen videos of a 240 AIO in there with the whole thing mounted to the underside of the top frame.


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05-02-2019 09:05 AM
ciarlatano
Quote: Originally Posted by flyinion View Post
Anyone have any input with my update plans as per post #11?
All 30 or 45mm thick rads are not created equal. So, saying "should I do a 30 or a 45?" is impossible to answer. If your intention is to keep the noise to a minimum as you stated, then an HWL 360GTS would be the rad of choice (IMHO) for the front with one set of fans (see low rpm results here, as well as why doing P/P will offer no performance gain - https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/). As far as the top exhaust, it really shouldn't be necessary to have any fans up there, but I haven't used this case so can't say for sure how well it flows. I would try it with and without the 200mm mounted up top..
05-01-2019 02:40 PM
flyinion Anyone have any input with my update plans as per post #11?
04-30-2019 12:55 PM
flyinion Hi guys bringing this back up again because I've actually acquired the case I'll be using and now I'm looking at probably piecing together a full custom kit instead of using a "kit in a box" etc. So I went with the CM H500M which has the front mounted 2x200mm fans, 1x140 in the rear and room for up to 2x200, 3x120, etc. up top. I was thinking of doing a 30mm rad up top with fans in a pull config. There is only 43mm of clearance from the mobo to the top mount and then about the same on the top side of the mount to the top glass panel on the case which has vents along the sides of that top panel. So I figure for airflow it's better to have 25mm thick fans up top vs a 30-40mm thick rad. Less bending for the airflow to have to do.

Here's where I need advice though. I could alternatively put a 45mm rad in push pull with the 200's still in the front and 3x120 on the back side of the rad in the case and then just get 3 more 120's or whatever up top for some extra exhaust, or put 3x120's in front in push and move the 200's up top. I'm not sure which would be best. Those CM 200's can move 90cfm each and I was thinking of BeQuiet SW3's which would be at or just under the max CFM of the pair of 200's. Combined with the 140 exhaust already in the case that means I end up with slightly negative airflow and start sucking in air/dust through all the panels etc. So I'm not sure what to do there.

I do plan to do only the single 360 for now since for the moment I will only be cooling the CPU and some overclocking but wanting to keep noise down (will be doing streaming so don't want a bunch of fan noise). However in the future I'd like to add the GPU when I upgrade my 1070 so I may end up with a second 360 in there.
03-21-2019 03:00 PM
ThrashZone Hi,
Cases are cases frankly now days they all pretty much suck
Like I said if you can get 2 decent thickness 360mm rad in a case it will be fine.

I'd go all high rpm fans too 140-120mm
https://www.bequiet.com/en/casefans/1636

Pump wise only D5 PWM any brand they are all the same only difference in D5 pumps is PWM or vario which has a manual 5 speed knob instead of PWM bio's adjustable rmp curve.
03-21-2019 12:33 PM
flyinion I should add in just for reference. These various kits/AIO's I've been looking at from Alphacool were recommended by the guys at modmymods.com when I was talking with them just in case you're wondering why I'm looking at that stuff.
03-21-2019 11:12 AM
flyinion
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
You'd have to link to the case and any fans you'd want advice on
Best fans I know of are noctua and Be quiet whether you want high rpm or low is up to you
My view is it's better to have high rpm's and not need them than need them and not have them.

I always do push/ pull fans on rads the fans do need to be matched.
Thanks, not sure if it will help at this point but I'll link anyway.

If I go with a 280 or 420 rad (420 would require a different case than I'm considering) my understanding is Alphacool is using re-branded versions of this
https://www.bequiet.com/en/casefans/448
The 360's would use these https://www.bequiet.com/en/casefans/449

this would be one of the kits I was looking at (but through a US re-seller) https://www.alphacool.com/shop/new-p...te-kit?c=22312

However I have to admit I'm also considering this as a temporary thing for a while until I had money for a fully custom build picking my own parts etc. It's an open loop AIO that can also link up with a GPU version if desired which then gives two pump system in case one fails https://www.alphacool.com/shop/sets-...-black?c=21228 I picked the 240 over the 280 because I could move it to my old case for a second system down the road.

This is the case I was planning to get
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid...tercase-h500m/
I believe this is the 200mm fans that come stock on it http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/...an-mf200r-rgb/

I'm also debating this case however which can fit a 420 in front and a 360 up top
http://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P600s.html
03-21-2019 08:26 AM
ThrashZone Hi,
You'd have to link to the case and any fans you'd want advice on
Best fans I know of are noctua and Be quiet whether you want high rpm or low is up to you
My view is it's better to have high rpm's and not need them than need them and not have them.

I always do push/ pull fans on rads the fans do need to be matched.
03-20-2019 05:10 PM
flyinion Well, I might have found answer. I was wondering about doing a push pull with leaving the 200's in place and the fans that come with the kits on the inside pulling. The only thing I'm not sure about is if I'd create dead air somehow since the 200's push 90cfm and the Alphacool fans are around 70.
03-20-2019 02:36 PM
flyinion
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,

30mm isn't a bad thickness for a rad

Hardware labs rads are pretty good.



But you said something about a complete inappropriate 240mm rad so just forget about that useless item


Lol ok. Any input on the fan question if I go with the h500m case?


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