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06-24-2020 07:00 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by mxthunder View Post
Thanks for the summary. Very helpful!
I will play around and see how far I can push it with the stock bios before I attempt any flashing.
If you decide you do want to try bios flashing things then there is a separate thread dedicated to that subject (specifically for the 1080 Ti cards) with lots of information over here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-n...r-1080-ti.html
06-24-2020 03:37 PM
mxthunder Thanks for the summary. Very helpful!
I will play around and see how far I can push it with the stock bios before I attempt any flashing.
06-24-2020 02:51 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by mxthunder View Post
Got everything tidied up. Learning to OC the new card. Is there a good BIOS to flash onto a FE watercooled card to over ride the 120% power limit? Getting conflicting info reading through the forums - some say there is no pascal bios editor like Kepler, Maxwell, etc, but I see in this thread people are flashing the bios.
Nvidia has encrypted the bios with a new type of encryption and even though the 1080 Ti's have been out since 2016 no one as of yet has cracked the encryption on the new bios's. There is an editor, and people can edit the bios's but the problem is flashing them back to the card. The cards expect the bios's to be digitally signed and certified or they won't allow them to be flashed to the card. And since no one yet has figured out how to sign an encrypted bios we can't flash a modified custom bios back to the cards yet. Or at the very least if they do have something it hasn't been made public.

What people have been doing in here is taking an existing bios from other aftermarket / AIB cards from other vendors that have a higher power limit (Something that is already signed and certified) and flashing that to our cards to get a higher power limit.

It's not guaranteed to work, and we may lose the ability to use some of the displayport/HDMI/DVI ports on the cards, depending on the differences between the cards of the AIB one vs the one we already own. There is one special bios from the Asus Strix model of 1080 Ti that has no power limit but it's extremely dangerous and has been documented to kill cards if we run with higher voltages for very long. It's only for temporary use for benchmarks and then must be removed and switched back to a normal bios.

Also you need to understand that the "Percentage" you see in MSI Afterburner can be confusing.

I'll try to explain: You could have a bios with a 285 watt initial power limit that allows +25% in MSI afterburner, which would have a total resulting power limit @ 120% of 356 watts max (285 + 25% = 356.25). While at the same time you could have another bios from some other vendor that starts out with a 330 watt power limit but only allows +15% in after burner that would still result in more power (380 watts max) than the first one, even though it's a lower % (330 + 15% = 379.50, 380 watts).
06-24-2020 01:40 PM
skupples there are BIOSs available, i think what changed is the new GPUs don't use classic hexidecimal bios (on uefi bios now), so you can't just throw them into a bios editor & tweak to your very own liking.
06-24-2020 10:47 AM
mxthunder Got everything tidied up. Learning to OC the new card. Is there a good BIOS to flash onto a FE watercooled card to over ride the 120% power limit? Getting conflicting info reading through the forums - some say there is no pascal bios editor like Kepler, Maxwell, etc, but I see in this thread people are flashing the bios.
06-24-2020 09:19 AM
mouacyk Nope
06-24-2020 06:14 AM
mxthunder Anyone ever see anomolies with the temperature sensors on these cards? My 1080Ti is reporting temperatures lower than ambient after putting the water block on. Even under full load, the card is only reading 31-33*C. Reporting idle temps of 15-18*C which is lower than the ambient temperature in the room.
06-22-2020 05:34 PM
TwilightRavens
Quote: Originally Posted by mxthunder View Post
Nvidia has always been stingy about amount of VRAM and it pisses me off.
Angry GTX 1060 3GB noises
06-22-2020 04:23 PM
mxthunder Thanks guys. Yeah it kinda kills me to spend $500 plus another $100 for a water block on a 3 year old card, but as you guys said the 2000 series isnt really worth it and im not going to play games for the 3000 series stuff either.
The 780Ti's honestly still have more than enough HP, its more of a VRAM limitation that is really holding me back at this point.
Another reason I went with the 1080Ti over the 2080. I wont want to get gipped with VRAM again. Nvidia has always been stingy about amount of VRAM and it pisses me off.
06-20-2020 03:12 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by cstkl1 View Post
does anybody have a msi AB version that shows cpu clocks, cpu package etc..

if yes please share with me the two msiafterburner.cfg file.. one in the main folder and profile..

tyvm
You don't need that. The latest version of the program allows you to load modules in the monitoring configuration that can pull data from other apps like AIDA64 and Hwinfo.

This is an old screenshot of mine from some time in spring 2019. But see my MSI AB setup here:


CPU temperature, VRM Temperature, CPU current, CPU watts, and CPU Mhz are all pulled in from AIDA64 into MSI AB. It doesn't provide that data normally.
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