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04-20-2019 07:36 PM
Thamuza Just wanna do a follow up with you guys and thank you for the help. I ordered the GTS 420 with the Phanteks Glacier R220 with a Laing DDC 3.2 PWM The Phanteks CpU block and a Thermaltake Pacific TF1. Doing Push with the Phanteks MP14o fans so that I can use my Halos. Will post pics soon as its done.
04-19-2019 02:57 PM
Thamuza I already have a strix 2070


One of my other concerns was that the GTS is one of the more restrictive rads, which is why I picked the mp50x..
and I thought that being as restrictive as it was pp might be a little better. the Phanteks fans will go up to like 1650 rpm I believe.
04-19-2019 02:53 PM
Pinnacle Fit
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamuza View Post
As I've read my Enthoo luxe has a max clearance of 66mm between top rad mount and the motherboard vrms. As the GTX is 60mm 60+25mm for fan puts me at 85mm, out of clearance for mounting fans under the rad in push config. There is space on top of the rad to mount 3 140mm fans in pull, or push if I want the top to be the intake. In the future I may expand the loop to add a 2080ti but at the current price and me only having 1080p monitors the 2080 is overkill


You can look for a 1080ti or even a 980ti if you’re only running 1080p


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04-19-2019 02:50 PM
Thamuza As I've read my Enthoo luxe has a max clearance of 66mm between top rad mount and the motherboard vrms. As the GTX is 60mm 60+25mm for fan puts me at 85mm, out of clearance for mounting fans under the rad in push config. There is space on top of the rad to mount 3 140mm fans in pull, or push if I want the top to be the intake. In the future I may expand the loop to add a 2080ti but at the current price and me only having 1080p monitors the 2080 is overkill.


I am currently using 2 phanteks 140mps on my daughters evga 280 clc and they are whisper quiet at over 1000rpm compared to the jet engine evga fans.. she has a phanteks 350x with 4 140mm fans 2SP and 2 MP and 1 120mm fan on the exhaust it sits on her desk about 18 inches from her and you cant hear it. That's where I figured that I could do pp and the fans probably would never go past 900rpm.


secondary note.. my enthoo luxe is modded for 3 140mm intake fans on the front..borrowed the idea from a members northern lights build on here.
04-19-2019 12:26 PM
Pinnacle Fit
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamuza View Post
That was one of the things that I wasn't so clear on.. I must have looked over that artical 20 times.. And that's where I wasn't sure if the gts would be fine in push or better in p/p. There is a review on Amazon a guy used the mcp50x pump only for the r220 and he had some caveats about it.. Which is what I was gonna do...i want it to be simple and elegant.. Lol.. So using the gts in push only with the 140mps and the halos will be just what Im looking for.. That aquacomputer vision is sooooo nice.. But I'm also considering doing the Aida 64 cell phone mod.. So I could technically keep it all phanteks.. But the aquacomputer cpu blocks seem to be higher quality.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l6QG3tRKwPc


I think all else being equal, PP will be better than Push or pull only. The question is, the space constraints and how much of a difference it’ll make. For high fpi radiators it can help to remove resistance because the pull fan creates a path via a vacuum effect, reducing splash and backblast. The gtx and gts aren’t particularly high fpi, but they’re not super low either.


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04-19-2019 12:17 PM
Pinnacle Fit
CPU only GTS or GTX

Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
First, I don't believe the MCP50X will work with the Glacier R220 unless you are using the pump free standing. The MCP50X is not compatible with standard DDC tops.



Second, you have a couple of standard misconceptions going on in your thought process - namely that "bigger must be better" and that "push/pull must be better than push only". If you do a quick review here https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/ , you will find this is not always the case. The GTS and GTX were made for different applications and usage, and both excel at their intended usage. The GTS was designed for quiet rigs and will outperform a GTX (which is designed for high fan speed usage) up to ~1350 rpm. It will have a nominal difference in performance to ~1750 rpm. Until you get into fan speeds that will make your ears bleed, the GTX doesn't separate itself from the GTS. So, unless you are want is to build something that sounds like a vacuum cleaner, the GTS is going to be the better performer.



You will also notice that P/P has essentially no performance impact on the GTS. So, you aren't going to gain anything by going P/P, and it will be louder at the same performance levels. However, with a 420mm on a CPU, you will likely never have to break 1000 rpm, so it won't be much of a concern.



Personally, I think the GTS is a far better choice for your application - better performance, less noise, and retains the ability to use the Halos.
I don’t think 1300 rpm is fast...and there are fans that are relatively quiet at that speed. Also, at <700rpm the 30mm gts might be better but we’re talking a minuscule number of watts relative to the delta at 1300rpm.

The number of watts dissipated at 1300 rpm is greater with both, but the delta is much larger. Overall I think he’s better off with the gtx if space will allow, because of the headroom it offers if he decides to expand, or push his hardware with harder OCs.

Don’t get me wrong- the gts has it’s place, especially for tight spaces, but I don’t think that’s an issue for him here
04-19-2019 12:12 PM
Pinnacle Fit
Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
Overkill, yes. But, as you say, it gives the option for expansion and the increased rad size will allow for very low fan speeds so it will be extremely quiet.


Yes and it’ll give the option of going with push over PP if space is limited.


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04-19-2019 11:42 AM
Hydroplane I own the GTX and am very happy with it
04-19-2019 11:36 AM
ciarlatano
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinnacle Fit View Post
I personally think a 420 might be overkill for just a cpu loop, unless you’re looking to expand later.


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Overkill, yes. But, as you say, it gives the option for expansion and the increased rad size will allow for very low fan speeds so it will be extremely quiet.
04-19-2019 10:44 AM
Pinnacle Fit I personally think a 420 might be overkill for just a cpu loop, unless you’re looking to expand later.


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