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05-18-2019 02:32 PM
8564dan UPDATE

Got the Gygabyte rtx 2060 pro OC in white finish. Installed it and to my surprise, up and running straight away - benchmarked Redshift and performed better than a 1080 (crazy considering I have a slight bottleneck on the GPU and it's on PCI 2.0). The 2060 was definitely the best bang for buck purchase. 2070 is £150 more - not worth it right now. The 2060 will be moving into my next machine too until I upgrade again.

I've seen that the Zen 2 Threadrippers are being delayed which sucks - my plan is to still upgrade properly to a Threadripper system when prices drop a bit.

New monitor being looked into - LG 34GK950F - this will be my current and next rig monitor. My current monitor is a bottleneck.

The Xeon is the next step - eager to see what Computex has to offer in a couple of weeks.
05-18-2019 11:53 AM
bertha01 Following!this seems like a very interesting thread
05-17-2019 10:46 AM
99belle99 I'm running a X5660 @4.2GHz daily can easily do 4.6Ghz but I do not need to run that speed daily so do not bother.

Regarding GPU's I am running a Rx Vega 56 with no issues and before that a R9 Fury X no issues either.
05-13-2019 11:14 PM
UltraMega These cheap older xeon chips are interesting but the trick is really to find a cheap motherboard that can support one. The reason they are so cheap is because its hard to find a decent motherboard to use one with. That said there are a few 6 core xeons that can overclock and those are the ones you want to look at. I think the one you mentioned is probably one of them, but I'm not sure.

That said, you would be a lot better off to just overclock your current CPU to 4ghz and get a better GPU. Unless your going 120hz+ 1080p gaming, your CPU would hold up just fine with a decent overclock.


Edit: I see you say this is not for gaming. What is it for?
05-13-2019 09:01 PM
Redwoodz
Quote: Originally Posted by 1Kaz View Post
But did you get 4 sticks of ram and your 2600 build for $149? That's the real question here. You might argue that other used systems are better, but if he has to invest in DDR4 ram, maybe it's not... Hence the bang for buck question...

@OP, 2060 references were based on passmark scores, https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html
Passmark doesn't accomplish things, it's just a benchmark. If you have more accurate benchmarks from the workload you are using, refer to them. They will be more reliable for what you are doing.
$200 for 32GB, $250 for mobo and CPU for 2600.

OP seems the 2070 8GB is the preferred card over 2060...or maybe 1080. Really need as much VRAM as you can afford. The limiting factor in your daily work will be cpu clock speed and core count. Higher IPC greatly improves user experience( less lag).
05-13-2019 12:35 AM
8564dan
Quote: Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post
I would not bother, you might not even be able to load a 1070 in that system due to no uefi support. New tech is making these old machines irrelevant. I bought a Ryzen 5 2600 for $149 last week. Running a single tower air cooler with 1 140mm fan I can run 4.1+GHz easy...even with 4 sticks RAM.
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/4mzt8j/12
Nice. I've been looking around for the support with newer cards on my mobo and it seems that the Asus P6TD Deluxe can handle the 10x and 20x cards with no problems.

Quote: Originally Posted by 1Kaz View Post
But did you get 4 sticks of ram and your 2600 build for $149? That's the real question here. You might argue that other used systems are better, but if he has to invest in DDR4 ram, maybe it's not... Hence the bang for buck question...

@OP, 2060 references were based on passmark scores, https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html
Passmark doesn't accomplish things, it's just a benchmark. If you have more accurate benchmarks from the workload you are using, refer to them. They will be more reliable for what you are doing.
Great, thanks. I'm going to grab the gpu first before I do anything else and make sure everything works well.
05-13-2019 12:06 AM
1Kaz
Quote: Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post
I would not bother, you might not even be able to load a 1070 in that system due to no uefi support. New tech is making these old machines irrelevant. I bought a Ryzen 5 2600 for $149 last week. Running a single tower air cooler with 1 140mm fan I can run 4.1+GHz easy...even with 4 sticks RAM.
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/4mzt8j/12
But did you get 4 sticks of ram and your 2600 build for $149? That's the real question here. You might argue that other used systems are better, but if he has to invest in DDR4 ram, maybe it's not... Hence the bang for buck question...

@OP, 2060 references were based on passmark scores, https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html
Passmark doesn't accomplish things, it's just a benchmark. If you have more accurate benchmarks from the workload you are using, refer to them. They will be more reliable for what you are doing.
05-12-2019 03:44 PM
Redwoodz I would not bother, you might not even be able to load a 1070 in that system due to no uefi support. New tech is making these old machines irrelevant. I bought a Ryzen 5 2600 for $149 last week. Running a single tower air cooler with 1 140mm fan I can run 4.1+GHz easy...even with 4 sticks RAM.
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/4mzt8j/12
05-12-2019 02:06 PM
8564dan
Quote: Originally Posted by 1Kaz View Post
If your willing to spend the time overclocking, you can push your 930 up to 4 ghz. I'd recommend a beefy air cooler if you go that route, water cooling only has advantages if your case doesn't have good airflow, or you want to water cool your graphics card(s). Most 3rd party air coolers are good enough for graphics cards, so water cooling only benefits if you overclock and push the limits. My buddy lost his graphics card because the water block on his graphics card eventually leaked. There are risks, you need to make sure the rewards out way the risks. If you are not taking the time to overclock I would not water cool.

The Xeon would be a good upgrade. It's often a recommended upgrade from the 930 because the sockets are the same and the processors are cheap. It's not an advantage if you end up buying a new motherboard.

I have a hard time recommending a new motherboard because I haven't done the research. How much would a board cost for that chip? How much of an advantage are you getting? Realistically, if the computer can do the work, the only thing different would be the speed it's done in, and the amount of electricity used to do it. If the electricity used is less to do the same job, it's saving money. The question is, would it be used enough for the savings to outweigh the cost of a new board? Note, your cost per KW of electricity plays a huge role in this calculation. Cryptocurrency mining calculators might be worth using, they often consider cost of electricity with work output.

The 2060 doesn't benchmark well. It's selling point is AI assisted upscaling. If you aren't using that, I wouldn't get it.
Thanks 1Kaz.

No, a new motherboard isn't worth it from what I've seen. If I get a new mobo it'll be a new system. I see no point in spending money on a new X58 board.

The 2060 does actually perform well for what I'm planning on using it for.

See here for example.

Were you talking about gaming benchmarks? I won't be gaming with this.

Water cooling is more of an enthusiast thing than something 'I need'. I just want to do it xD

Thanks again!
05-12-2019 11:50 AM
1Kaz If your willing to spend the time overclocking, you can push your 930 up to 4 ghz. I'd recommend a beefy air cooler if you go that route, water cooling only has advantages if your case doesn't have good airflow, or you want to water cool your graphics card(s). Most 3rd party air coolers are good enough for graphics cards, so water cooling only benefits if you overclock and push the limits. My buddy lost his graphics card because the water block on his graphics card eventually leaked. There are risks, you need to make sure the rewards out way the risks. If you are not taking the time to overclock I would not water cool.

The Xeon would be a good upgrade. It's often a recommended upgrade from the 930 because the sockets are the same and the processors are cheap. It's not an advantage if you end up buying a new motherboard.

I have a hard time recommending a new motherboard because I haven't done the research. How much would a board cost for that chip? How much of an advantage are you getting? Realistically, if the computer can do the work, the only thing different would be the speed it's done in, and the amount of electricity used to do it. If the electricity used is less to do the same job, it's saving money. The question is, would it be used enough for the savings to outweigh the cost of a new board? Note, your cost per KW of electricity plays a huge role in this calculation. Cryptocurrency mining calculators might be worth using, they often consider cost of electricity with work output.

The 2060 doesn't benchmark well. It's selling point is AI assisted upscaling. If you aren't using that, I wouldn't get it.
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