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08-13-2020 12:20 PM
PotatoVonEpicus I haven't tried going back to Win7, it's been around 3 years since I had Win7 installed. Win10 simply has some features that I don't want to miss out on. Taking one stick out seemingly fixes everything, this is rather weird, however there might be issues with chip itself so triple channel doesn't work properly. Possibly board is not liking mixing of sticks, although more often than not it seems fine. I tried several things windows related to fix windows corrupt files and looked at drivers as well, everything seems fine there. Right now using two sticks without any issues at all with exactly same settings, this is just weird, but hopes for me to run triple channel properly stable and not randomly crashing are slim. I rather have stable working machine instead of thinking that it is stable just to randomly crash, also another funny thing is that this PC seen a lot of stress testing these past two weeks. Everything seemed fine and then it randomly crashes in things like GTA 5. RIDICULOUS !
08-13-2020 07:59 AM
Kana-Maru
Quote: Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post
GPU won't boot at 110 PCIe. Went through the different voltages again and it seems like 4000Mhz QPI there's a wall. I can go a little over at 222+ bclk, 106mhz PCIe, but CPUz readings go all over the place so not stable.

It won't post at 167x24 and 182x22, but it will post and boot windows with 230x18 with all the same voltage settings.
There is a wall on both the Uncore Freq and the QPI which requires ridiculous voltages and settings to surpass. Later architectures (Sandy and up) overcome these limitations easily if we think about performance. If it wasn't for those limits the X58 would be even more of a killer platform, but the tech is at least 12 years old....actually older than that. Even if we could overcome those obstacles it wouldn't matter at this point in time anyways. It would more than likely kill the CPU\MB for long term use and possibly short time as well (crazy settings).


Quote: Originally Posted by PotatoVonEpicus View Post
Apparently, 1 hour of LinX ( 256 MB ) tests were fine, Prime95 for 2 hours were also fine. I go to play some GTA 5, BSOD within 5 minutes ( Page fault ). Change profile to the one with RAM being on 1570 MHz, 9-9-9. Again go to play GTA 5, some DPC BSOD, several BSODs later I think it's windows corruption. I take out one of the sticks and go to play GTA 5 with all same settings that BSODed, no issues whatsoever...
Have you tried falling back to Windows 7 and giving it a shot. I'm sure that might not be the most helpful suggestion I'm just curious. Things were so much more smoother on the Win 7 platform. Otherwise a fresh Win 10 install. I'd be more interested in Win 7 stability though. Initial I had all types of issues with Win 10 and my stable OCs that I used for years wasn't so smooth in Wn 10. I quickly resolved those issues many years ago shortly after being forced to upgrade to Win 10 for DX12\Async titles.
08-13-2020 07:42 AM
PotatoVonEpicus Apparently, 1 hour of LinX ( 256 MB ) tests were fine, Prime95 for 2 hours were also fine. I go to play some GTA 5, BSOD within 5 minutes ( Page fault ). Change profile to the one with RAM being on 1570 MHz, 9-9-9. Again go to play GTA 5, some DPC BSOD, several BSODs later I think it's windows corruption. I take out one of the sticks to make sure and go to play GTA 5 with all same settings that BSODed, no issues whatsoever...
08-13-2020 02:16 AM
PotatoVonEpicus It seems I know what happened there now, after a lot of LinX ( 256 MB size ) tests, finally HWinfo showed there were cache errors. Other profile seems fine though, so yesterday after first crash I am guessing it messed up something with windows and second crash after profile switch was windows related. Checked and repaired windows and now testing 4.1 GHz profile. The profile that had unstable Uncore was tested with prime95 for 4 hours + and LinX ( all memory used ) for around 12 hours and was error free.
08-12-2020 03:42 AM
PotatoVonEpicus Memory management is self explanatory, it's not Uncore either since on these specific clocks and voltages it passed lots of LinX hours. It could either be unstable memory which is unlikely due to mentioned passed stress tests or something is changing with board. It never happens when I use two sticks instead of three as well.

It seemingly went away, I doubt that error code would help here. Since it's crashing not because my settings are unstable, but rather because something is changing on reboot. Especially if I change profiles for OC, it only happens on boot and if it boots properly it does not crash. RTL ( now fixed with manual RTL setting ) related crashes were giving page file, memory management and other similar BSODs, this however only gives memory management BSOD. Which points me to RAM and likely to timings being changed when profile is being changed. Yet somehow I was unable to recreate the BSOD while changing profiles. The weirdest part about all this is that this is very random and only had these crashes today. Now it seems to run just fine without any issues, whatever I throw at it, it's fine.
08-12-2020 03:36 AM
Fobia2000
Quote: Originally Posted by PotatoVonEpicus View Post
Didn't check the code, but Memory management BSODs point to very specific thing. Apparently after few reboots all is stable again. This is quite random as well, something as simple as changing profile can cause this. I just have 2 profiles now with 4.1 GHz low voltage and generally efficient settings and 4.4 GHz with high Uncore and RAM. It's also possible that something is wrong with the CPU, but more likely sub timings are getting weird as this board don't know what to do with different RAM sticks.
Disable automatic restart after failure and calmly examine the error code.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-in...code-list.html
08-12-2020 01:54 AM
PotatoVonEpicus
Quote: Originally Posted by Fobia2000 View Post
what is the error code?
Didn't check the code, but Memory management BSODs point to very specific thing. Apparently after few reboots all is stable again. This is quite random as well, something as simple as changing profile can cause this. I just have 2 profiles now with 4.1 GHz low voltage and generally efficient settings and 4.4 GHz with high Uncore and RAM. It's also possible that something is wrong with the CPU, but more likely sub timings are getting weird as this board don't know what to do with different RAM sticks.

Tried to replicate BSOD with profile changing, was unable to.
08-12-2020 01:30 AM
Fobia2000
Quote: Originally Posted by PotatoVonEpicus View Post
And now Memory Management BSODs returned... Been using specific OC settings for quite a bit now without any issues and today it started giving me BSODs again.
what is the error code?
08-12-2020 12:51 AM
PotatoVonEpicus And now Memory Management BSODs returned... Been using specific OC settings for quite a bit now without any issues and today it started giving me BSODs again.

2110 MHz 11-11-12-26-232-1T, 1.6v random BSOD on boot, stable while stress testing.

1600 MHz 9-9-9-22-176-1T, 1.52v random BSOD on boot ( sub timings manually set and tested ).

1570 MHz 8-9-9-22-176-1T, 1.52v random BOSD on boot ( sub timings manually set and tested ).

Either something is happening with triple channel, CPU / IMC or this board is changing sub timings ( RTL is manually set to specific value and is NOT changing ). This is just ridiculous, passing hours of Prime95 and LinX just to crash on boot.
08-12-2020 12:12 AM
PotatoVonEpicus I doubt that you gonna get anything higher than 2300 MHz on RAM. These x58 boards don't do too well above 2000 MHz, from what I know IMC is rather weak as well.
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