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11-15-2019 12:36 PM
ToTheSun!
Quote: Originally Posted by Synoxia View Post
Hi guys.
Can you give me some quick infos about:
How much performance you usually gain from overclocking this card and so how a "typical card" (not golden sample) behaves with core/memory oc, power limit, voltages etc
and what's the "ideal 24/7" voltage/temp max.
I think i will have a pleasant experience with this one as it consumes a little less watt and overheats less compared to Vega
I am also interested on what freaks that liquid cool these things do but also use their OC 24/7!
Thank you.
It depends on what model you're buying.

The card on my sig (soon to change), because of the AIO, boosted from factory to 2025 MHz and never dropped below 1995 MHz. I was able to add 60 MHz to the core before it started acting up. So, in that case, overclocking mattered very little. If you buy non-reference models with beefy power limits and good cooling, you can probably gain some 200+ MHz from overclocking, which is pretty sweet. According to reviews, 2100-2200 MHz should be the absolute maximum you can expect, and 2000+ a pretty good range. If you don't overvolt, any clocks are probably pretty safe in regard to longevity.

Word of advice, though: if buying 2080, get non-reference. For the 2080 Super, I think it shouldn't matter, as nVidia probably ironed out all the kinks already.
11-15-2019 11:42 AM
Synoxia Hi guys.
Can you give me some quick infos about:
How much performance you usually gain from overclocking this card and so how a "typical card" (not golden sample) behaves with core/memory oc, power limit, voltages etc
and what's the "ideal 24/7" voltage/temp max.
I think i will have a pleasant experience with this one as it consumes a little less watt and overheats less compared to Vega
I am also interested on what freaks that liquid cool these things do but also use their OC 24/7!
Thank you.
11-13-2019 01:42 PM
ToTheSun! Follow-up: 2nd OS format didn't prevent the issue from reappearing, even before any game was installed. Card RMA'd because it was early Turing death and not software (thank God!, I can keep my intelligence and sanity). Apparently, there are other people with the exact same problem (terribly low performance in Apex Legends and overall decrease in performance with 2080's).

Now, fingers crossed for a 2080 Super replacement!
11-12-2019 05:09 AM
ToTheSun!
Quote: Originally Posted by Imprezzion View Post
Maybe Apex is installing a borked DirectX library file or something?

Try uninstalling Apex and manually re-installing DirectX libraries and vcredist just to be sure.

I'm just doing some wild guesses now tho.
Wild guesses are welcome at this point.

I did a system restore to a time before I installed Apex, but the problem persisted. I decided that I will do another Windows install tonight, but I will keep away from Apex and see if the problem comes back.

It's worth noting that I installed RDR2 at the same time I installed the new Duos event patch for Apex both times, so I'm also suspecting R* at this point.
11-12-2019 01:45 AM
Imprezzion Maybe Apex is installing a borked DirectX library file or something?

Try uninstalling Apex and manually re-installing DirectX libraries and vcredist just to be sure.

I'm just doing some wild guesses now tho.
11-11-2019 02:04 PM
ToTheSun! So, story time.

After the Windows reinstallation fixed everything, just 24h later I'm back to square 1. I set everything up, as I would, including an Apex installation. I played most of yesterday without issues. Today, I come back and notice the same weird behavior I had noticed before (50-75% performance loss in-game), so I turn to Firestrike benchmarking to confirm what I was fearing: a 3K graphics score loss, like before (27K down from 30K earlier: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/40910301?).

I'm... dumbfounded. I'm having a hard time believing Apex Legends is breaking my system to this extent, but, absent better advice from this thread, now I have to do it all again and keep away from the damned game for a week or so.

If anyone has ANY IDEA WHATSOEVER, I welcome it. Please!
11-11-2019 02:07 AM
ToTheSun!
Quote: Originally Posted by sirleeofroy View Post
Well, I'm glad a reinstall sorted it... Whilst you could do a deep dive and find out what silly process/program/registry entry is slowing things down, with windows taking all of 10 mins to install these days, it is pretty much always quicker to just do that. I once spent 3 days trying to figure out a performance problem, it improved with some messing around but in effect, it was 3 days wasted.... 10 min reinstall and pow, back to form!! In fact, now I come to think of it, my system could do with a good ole refresh!!
Well, within the realm of my capabilities and understanding, I was unable to find exactly what was acting up. It all started after I updated Apex Legends (it was all fine mere hours before that), so my suspicion had always been some borked DX file(s).

Like you said, though, easier cleaned than fixed.
11-11-2019 01:41 AM
sirleeofroy
Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
So, the good news is that reinstalling Windows fixed everything. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/40848638?

The bad news is... I don't know why it did. Now I will probably benchmark my system every week or whatever.

Oh, well!
Well, I'm glad a reinstall sorted it... Whilst you could do a deep dive and find out what silly process/program/registry entry is slowing things down, with windows taking all of 10 mins to install these days, it is pretty much always quicker to just do that. I once spent 3 days trying to figure out a performance problem, it improved with some messing around but in effect, it was 3 days wasted.... 10 min reinstall and pow, back to form!! In fact, now I come to think of it, my system could do with a good ole refresh!!
11-10-2019 03:14 AM
Imprezzion I'm trying to find a fancurve with fan off in idle to find a balance in temperatures so my card will always run in the 50c bracket to mitigate the drop in clocks every 10c. My card does run 2100 fine under load but if I set it so that my card loads at 2100 it will start at 2130/2145 when it's still "cold" and that often crashes before it warms up completely so I'm stuck at 2070 load now.

This might take a while.. there's still no BIOS mod available that disables boost all together allowing for fixed 3D clocks is there?
11-09-2019 06:10 PM
ToTheSun!
Quote: Originally Posted by sirleeofroy View Post
Ok, so I did a compare of my best and worst recorded FS runs.... The lowest score I have is also the oldest driver version as I picked up my 2080 in March I think.

It's not quite apples to apples as I oc my memory whereas your runs look stock, however your card (recent scores excluded) does perform better than mine.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/17...1/fs/18784123#
Quote: Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post
Thanks for taking your time. Guess I'm back to square one, though. I'll try reinstalling Windows this weekend and see what happens. Though I'm sure it won't help, I ran out of options at this point.
So, the good news is that reinstalling Windows fixed everything. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/40848638?

The bad news is... I don't know why it did. Now I will probably benchmark my system every week or whatever.

Oh, well!
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