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05-25-2020 08:36 AM
kevindd992002 So I've been using my G. Skill 2x8GB sticks at XMP with my ASUS Maximus X Code and 8700K for a few years now and they were pretty much stable up to this point where I had an out of the nowhere BSOD while Win 10 was just on the desktop.

I thought it was one time thing and I let it go (just forced reboot). But then it started BSOD'ing again until it came to a point where the machine wasn't able to POST anymore with Q code 55 (no memory installed). Tried MemOK, Clear CMOS, ReTry, etc. to no avail.

I then started testing my RAM modules.
1. Switched both modules from A2/B2 slots to A1/B1 -> TEST FAILED
2. Removed stick2 and tested stick1 in each or the 4 slots -> ALL TESTS FAILED
3. Removed stick1 and tested stick2 -> ALL TESTS SUCCEEDED!

I mean, it's obvious to me that stick1's the culrpit and I need to send back to G. Skill but I guess I just wanted to pick your brains out and wanted confirmation, which is why I posted. I've had my fair share of bad RAM modules in the past but never to the point that it won't let my machine POST.

Any thoughts? Thanks.
05-14-2020 02:33 AM
BotSkill
Quote: Originally Posted by ViTosS View Post
For some reason I can't use my USB BIOS FlashBack tool anymore, I do exact as the same I did in the past and it always worked, but this time I got 3-4x flashing blue and a solid blue after, I wanted to go back to BIOS 1003 after updating to newest one 2203, my RAM OC isn't the same on this newest BIOS.
Try other USB stick. It happened to me too with some USB sticks and worked well with others. And don't forget to rename bios to M10H.cap for USB Bios FlashBack to work.
04-26-2020 08:57 PM
Falkentyne
Quote: Originally Posted by ViTosS View Post
For some reason I can't use my USB BIOS FlashBack tool anymore, I do exact as the same I did in the past and it always worked, but this time I got 3-4x flashing blue and a solid blue after, I wanted to go back to BIOS 1003 after updating to newest one 2203, my RAM OC isn't the same on this newest BIOS.
Some motherboards have a BIOS downgrade option in the AMI menus, which may be hidden. There is a modded AMIBCP 5.02.0031 by (I think) dsanke(?) that will let you open the flash file without it crashing with a too many strings error, which will allow you to examine what's there. If you can open it and you find a bios downgrade option, ask on Win-raid how to enable this option (DO NOT under any circumstances attempt to edit the original Asus binary file with AMIBCP, PERIOD). Lost N Bios can help you do that. Of course that's at your own risk.

Usually after such a change is done and the option enabled, you have to load defaults after the flash to get that option into CMOS memory. Then you should be able to flash back to an older version.
04-26-2020 08:04 PM
ViTosS For some reason I can't use my USB BIOS FlashBack tool anymore, I do exact as the same I did in the past and it always worked, but this time I got 3-4x flashing blue and a solid blue after, I wanted to go back to BIOS 1003 after updating to newest one 2203, my RAM OC isn't the same on this newest BIOS.
04-16-2020 11:24 AM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by Norlig View Post
Thanks, Tried that, but it seems to have had no effect.

I tested setting the power options Plan to Balanced, then the CPU clocks started regulating again.
I had Ultimate performance selected before, but changed minimum processor state to 10%

Both High and ultimate performance would lock my clocks to the max turbo speed (5.1Ghz) , guess I'll rock with Balanced now.

Must've been a windows update or something...
in max or ultimate I'm pretty sure you need to have Processor thermal control set to active AND lower the min proc state to below 10%... I thought you had posted that you tried other power plans earlier.
anyways... Enjoy!
04-15-2020 11:04 PM
Norlig
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
As the last bios screen shot shows, your P1 freq is base turbo... so:

1) Multicore "MCE" to Auto. Disabling it is not relevant once you overclock manually - it can only work with default settings for multi and voltage.
2) Min cache freq to Auto (XMP will do this for a silly reason)
3) Look for EIST (speedstep) and Speedshift, assure that both are set to Auto or Enabled (XMPO can putz with these too).
If after this it works correctly. enjoy. If not, or if you want to purge the system of XMP settings and begin with a better OC (not one done by the guy programming the RAM EEPROM):

Simply note the primary ram timings, Dram voltage and speed. Then CLRCMOS, do not enable XMP - set your CPU OC. Does it down clock normally? If yes, now enter the ram timings, voltage and speed manually - F10 to save and exit. Viola.
Thanks, Tried that, but it seems to have had no effect.

I tested setting the power options Plan to Balanced, then the CPU clocks started regulating again.
I had Ultimate performance selected before, but changed minimum processor state to 10%

Both High and ultimate performance would lock my clocks to the max turbo speed (5.1Ghz) , guess I'll rock with Balanced now.

Must've been a windows update or something...
04-15-2020 04:57 PM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by Norlig View Post
I got the Asus ROG z390-f Gaming
My 9900k has recently been stuck at 5.1Ghz all the time.

It's not due to windows power options (minimum processor state set to 10%)
If I set maximum power state to less than 100%, the frequency does drop.

Tried updating the Bios.

I cant figure out what setting in Bios allows it to downclock at idle, or if its related to a program thats running. (Tried killing any running applications that seemed to not be system critical)

Anyone got any suggestions?

(pictures from before I updated the bios)
As the last bios screen shot shows, your P1 freq is base turbo... so:

1) Multicore "MCE" to Auto. Disabling it is not relevant once you overclock manually - it can only work with default settings for multi and voltage.
2) Min cache freq to Auto (XMP will do this for a silly reason)
3) Look for EIST (speedstep) and Speedshift, assure that both are set to Auto or Enabled (XMPO can putz with these too).
If after this it works correctly. enjoy. If not, or if you want to purge the system of XMP settings and begin with a better OC (not one done by the guy programming the RAM EEPROM):

Simply note the primary ram timings, Dram voltage and speed. Then CLRCMOS, do not enable XMP - set your CPU OC. Does it down clock normally? If yes, now enter the ram timings, voltage and speed manually - F10 to save and exit. Viola.
04-15-2020 01:59 PM
Norlig I got the Asus ROG z390-f Gaming
My 9900k has recently been stuck at 5.1Ghz all the time.

It's not due to windows power options (minimum processor state set to 10%)
If I set maximum power state to less than 100%, the frequency does drop.

Tried updating the Bios.

I cant figure out what setting in Bios allows it to downclock at idle, or if its related to a program thats running. (Tried killing any running applications that seemed to not be system critical)

Anyone got any suggestions?

(pictures from before I updated the bios)
04-04-2020 07:51 AM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by dagan View Post
So haven't been in overclocking game in a long while, last I was did was frist gen i7,
my questions are
1. Are my voltage and temp normal under current overclock looking at hwinfo screenshot I provided
2. First time offset option, Its been stable under blender tests with offset -130-LLC Level 3(heard vdroop is a good thing so I relaxed the LLC to 3), is offset better than fixed?
3. I have my pc connected to UPS and at stress test I was expecting a consistent wattage pull but it seems to fluctuate between 260 to 360, so it jumps 100 watts every half a tick(.5 second) or so, I'm monitoring cpu usage and its always at max during stress test and with xtu monitoring various throttle values nothing comes up throttling
4. I can just ignore my VID since I'm on offset, is that correct?

Thank you so much your help ahead of time. I just wanted some peace of mind regarding my set up and seeing the wattage jump all over the place made me feel a bit uneasy




Motherboard model:Fatal1ty Z370 Professional Gaming i7
UEFI Version: 4.20
CPU:i9 9900k
Memory kit part number (s) and amount in GB: G.SKill F4-3600C15-8GTZ Quantity 4 of total 32 gb
GPU: 1080ti
PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-850
CPU Cooler:Corsair h100i pro
Operating system: Win 10 Pro activated
Any third Party temp/voltage software installed:hwmonitor, icue, hwinfo64, intel xtu,
System Overclocked (provide details)? 5.0ghz offset -130, LLC Level 3
yeah, that vcore is way too high for that frequency on that CPU. Most 9900Ks do 5.0 at under 1.3V. You should look for an AsRock or 9900K therad.
04-02-2020 10:06 PM
DarthFK
Quote: Originally Posted by dagan View Post
So haven't been in overclocking game in a long while, last I was did was frist gen i7,
my questions are
1. Are my voltage and temp normal under current overclock looking at hwinfo screenshot I provided
2. First time offset option, Its been stable under blender tests with offset -130-LLC Level 3(heard vdroop is a good thing so I relaxed the LLC to 3), is offset better than fixed?
3. I have my pc connected to UPS and at stress test I was expecting a consistent wattage pull but it seems to fluctuate between 260 to 360, so it jumps 100 watts every half a tick(.5 second) or so, I'm monitoring cpu usage and its always at max during stress test and with xtu monitoring various throttle values nothing comes up throttling
4. I can just ignore my VID since I'm on offset, is that correct?

Thank you so much your help ahead of time. I just wanted some peace of mind regarding my set up and seeing the wattage jump all over the place made me feel a bit uneasy




Motherboard model:Fatal1ty Z370 Professional Gaming i7
UEFI Version: 4.20
CPU:i9 9900k
Memory kit part number (s) and amount in GB: G.SKill F4-3600C15-8GTZ Quantity 4 of total 32 gb
GPU: 1080ti
PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-850
CPU Cooler:Corsair h100i pro
Operating system: Win 10 Pro activated
Any third Party temp/voltage software installed:hwmonitor, icue, hwinfo64, intel xtu,
System Overclocked (provide details)? 5.0ghz offset -130, LLC Level 3
You're asking this on an Asus thread and you have an Asrock motherboard, which counts the vdroop/llc "backwards" (LLC1 being the highest on Asrock). I'd suggest you to address that on the AsRock thread or a separate thread on OCing. Otherwise, as a previous owner of a z370 Taichi, I would suggest you to use LLC2 or LL1, and I think your vcore is high (weed probably?)

Ok, before you open your own thread or go to Asrock, go on youtube and search for Kapteeni Kuolio "i7 8700K 5Ghz & Memory Overclocking with Asrock Z370 Taichi Motherboard" - he OCs an 8700k on Asrock, as that is not a fundamentally different CPU, while the MB is practically identical, except vcore voltage on the 9900k should be lower.
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