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08-09-2020 12:49 PM
Martin778 It's been repasted, it will run Heaven/Valley/Furmark without issues, can't be the temps if it always craps around around the same moment.
I have another rig I might test it in, will have to give it a go. Others are to old to push the card to it's maximum in FS standard tests.
08-09-2020 12:48 PM
TwilightRavens
Quote: Originally Posted by Martin778 View Post
I have a 1080Ti FE that I struggle with...the card will sometimes shut down (no crash, just a hard shutdown) the PC when I run Fire Strike (normal) with the core OC'ed, OC'ing the memory is not a problem. Not-OC'ed it will pass any 3Dmark stress test.

- Stock clocks, max PL, runs everything fine
- Heaven w. Core and MEM OC, runs fine
- OC Fire Strike, hard shutdown but sometimes it would pass
- OC Time Spy Extreme Stress Test, passes fine with 98.4% (?!?)

If it shuts down, its always at the 2nd GPU test of FS but sometimes it would pass with no issues...I really don't get it.

What I've already tried:
- Replaced motherboards (both almost brand new though and pretty high end boards)
- Stress tested the CPU and RAM (both 2 weeks old), work fine
- Replaced the 550W Gold PSU with 1200W Platinum unit, no difference
- Reinstalled windows and the latest Nvidia drivers
- Card is repadded and repasted, nothing weird to see in GPU-Z
- Checked for artifacts, there are absolutely none
- XMP enabled / disabled

Can't put my hand on why this happens, I've had

What are the temps on the card? If its running hot 3dmark will at times crash out, and if that is the issue you might wanna take the cooler off and try to clean as much dust out as you can and repaste it.
08-08-2020 07:29 PM
KedarWolf
Quote: Originally Posted by Martin778 View Post
I have a 1080Ti FE that I struggle with...the card will sometimes shut down (no crash, just a hard shutdown) the PC when I run Fire Strike (normal) with the core OC'ed, OC'ing the memory is not a problem. Not-OC'ed it will pass any 3Dmark stress test.

- Stock clocks, max PL, runs everything fine
- Heaven w. Core and MEM OC, runs fine
- OC Fire Strike, hard shutdown but sometimes it would pass
- OC Time Spy Extreme Stress Test, passes fine with 98.4% (?!?)

If it shuts down, its always at the 2nd GPU test of FS but sometimes it would pass with no issues...I really don't get it.

What I've already tried:
- Replaced motherboards (both almost brand new though and pretty high end boards)
- Stress tested the CPU and RAM (both 2 weeks old), work fine
- Replaced the 550W Gold PSU with 1200W Platinum unit, no difference
- Reinstalled windows and the latest Nvidia drivers
- Card is repadded and repasted, nothing weird to see in GPU-Z
- Checked for artifacts, there are absolutely none
- XMP enabled / disabled

Can't put my hand on why this happens, I've had
Also, uninstall your existing drivers with DDU. First, go into the settings when you start DDU, enable Safe Mode and Do Not Install Drivers Automatically, then restart DDU, boot into Safe Mode, uninstall drivers, let it reboot and install new drivers.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details...-download.html
08-08-2020 06:25 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by Martin778 View Post
- Reinstalled windows and the latest Nvidia drivers
That could be your problem. I keep trying newer drivers and I keep having "quite a lot" of instability and crashing in benchmarks and some games with my overclocked 1080 Ti. I usually end up reverting back to the last driver I've used that was 100% completely stable with my card. All they've added in the newer drivers is optimization for specific current AAA games. I have no interest in playing any of those games anyway so it doesn't even effect me (I'm not missing anything).

Perhaps just try this once and see if this works for you: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driv...x/155056/en-us
08-08-2020 02:04 PM
Martin778 I have a 1080Ti FE that I struggle with...the card will sometimes shut down (no crash, just a hard shutdown) the PC when I run Fire Strike (normal) with the core OC'ed, OC'ing the memory is not a problem. Not-OC'ed it will pass any 3Dmark stress test.

- Stock clocks, max PL, runs everything fine
- Heaven w. Core and MEM OC, runs fine
- OC Fire Strike, hard shutdown but sometimes it would pass
- OC Time Spy Extreme Stress Test, passes fine with 98.4% (?!?)

If it shuts down, its always at the 2nd GPU test of FS but sometimes it would pass with no issues...I really don't get it.

What I've already tried:
- Replaced motherboards (both almost brand new though and pretty high end boards)
- Stress tested the CPU and RAM (both 2 weeks old), work fine
- Replaced the 550W Gold PSU with 1200W Platinum unit, no difference
- Reinstalled windows and the latest Nvidia drivers
- Card is repadded and repasted, nothing weird to see in GPU-Z
- Checked for artifacts, there are absolutely none
- XMP enabled / disabled

Can't put my hand on why this happens, I've had
06-24-2020 07:00 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by mxthunder View Post
Thanks for the summary. Very helpful!
I will play around and see how far I can push it with the stock bios before I attempt any flashing.
If you decide you do want to try bios flashing things then there is a separate thread dedicated to that subject (specifically for the 1080 Ti cards) with lots of information over here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-n...r-1080-ti.html
06-24-2020 03:37 PM
mxthunder Thanks for the summary. Very helpful!
I will play around and see how far I can push it with the stock bios before I attempt any flashing.
06-24-2020 02:51 PM
kithylin
Quote: Originally Posted by mxthunder View Post
Got everything tidied up. Learning to OC the new card. Is there a good BIOS to flash onto a FE watercooled card to over ride the 120% power limit? Getting conflicting info reading through the forums - some say there is no pascal bios editor like Kepler, Maxwell, etc, but I see in this thread people are flashing the bios.
Nvidia has encrypted the bios with a new type of encryption and even though the 1080 Ti's have been out since 2016 no one as of yet has cracked the encryption on the new bios's. There is an editor, and people can edit the bios's but the problem is flashing them back to the card. The cards expect the bios's to be digitally signed and certified or they won't allow them to be flashed to the card. And since no one yet has figured out how to sign an encrypted bios we can't flash a modified custom bios back to the cards yet. Or at the very least if they do have something it hasn't been made public.

What people have been doing in here is taking an existing bios from other aftermarket / AIB cards from other vendors that have a higher power limit (Something that is already signed and certified) and flashing that to our cards to get a higher power limit.

It's not guaranteed to work, and we may lose the ability to use some of the displayport/HDMI/DVI ports on the cards, depending on the differences between the cards of the AIB one vs the one we already own. There is one special bios from the Asus Strix model of 1080 Ti that has no power limit but it's extremely dangerous and has been documented to kill cards if we run with higher voltages for very long. It's only for temporary use for benchmarks and then must be removed and switched back to a normal bios.

Also you need to understand that the "Percentage" you see in MSI Afterburner can be confusing.

I'll try to explain: You could have a bios with a 285 watt initial power limit that allows +25% in MSI afterburner, which would have a total resulting power limit @ 120% of 356 watts max (285 + 25% = 356.25). While at the same time you could have another bios from some other vendor that starts out with a 330 watt power limit but only allows +15% in after burner that would still result in more power (380 watts max) than the first one, even though it's a lower % (330 + 15% = 379.50, 380 watts).
06-24-2020 01:40 PM
skupples there are BIOSs available, i think what changed is the new GPUs don't use classic hexidecimal bios (on uefi bios now), so you can't just throw them into a bios editor & tweak to your very own liking.
06-24-2020 10:47 AM
mxthunder Got everything tidied up. Learning to OC the new card. Is there a good BIOS to flash onto a FE watercooled card to over ride the 120% power limit? Getting conflicting info reading through the forums - some say there is no pascal bios editor like Kepler, Maxwell, etc, but I see in this thread people are flashing the bios.
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