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06-11-2019 02:00 PM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Mungojerrie View Post
Due to certain circumstances I'll have to choose a cooler first, but then I'll make sure to choose a motherboard that won't have its PCIe x16 slot blocked.

I'm in Ukraine, why?
Often knowing area a person lives in helps me know what is available to them. Sadly I don't know any sources in Ukraine
06-11-2019 01:02 PM
Mungojerrie
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I suggest you wait to buy cooler until you know what motherboard you are going to get. Buying a cooler before having motherboard is like buying tires without having the car you plan to put them on .. you are guessing and hoping they will fit.


Where are you located? What country?
Due to certain circumstances I'll have to choose a cooler first, but then I'll make sure to choose a motherboard that won't have its PCIe x16 slot blocked.

I'm in Ukraine, why?
06-11-2019 07:23 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Mungojerrie View Post
Again, sadly LGMRT is nowhere to be found and it doesn't look like it's gonna restock soon enough.

Problem is I don't know yet - none of the X570 are for sale yet. If there will be no decent affordable (under $200) X570 board then I'll go for MSI X470 Gaming Plus. As far as I've checked, none of these coolers should interfere with PCIe x16 slot on modern motherboards.
I suggest you wait to buy cooler until you know what motherboard you are going to get. Buying a cooler before having motherboard is like buying tires without having the car you plan to put them on .. you are guessing and hoping they will fit.


Where are you located? What country?
06-10-2019 01:09 PM
Mungojerrie
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I agree with Owterspace about LGMRT.
...
Probably because NH-U12A has 7x heatpipes and 2x Nf-A12x25 fans (best fans out right now), all in 158x135x112mm package makes it a winner in everyone's eyes .. except those who can't stand baby poo brown fan colors.
Again, sadly LGMRT is nowhere to be found and it doesn't look like it's gonna restock soon enough.
I understand the technical reasoning for U12A with the fans and heat pipes, but ultimately cooling performance is king and since it's around on par with D15S and U14S those peculiarities don't really matter to me that much. Price premium is very real though.

Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
Depends on how high you are overclocking , I can tell you for a fact that True Spirit 140 Power and NH-U14S both can handle a Ryzen 7 2700X / Ryzen 7 1700X overclocked , even more so if you're not using AVX instructions to encode or whatnot.
I'm aiming to achieve maximum 100% stable(Linpack Extreme, Prime95) frequency within the safe voltage limits. Can't be sure about frequencies at this moment though. Anyway, it would be great to not be limited by cooling.

Good to know regarding the 2700X cooling. I doubt that 3800X is going to be able to get much hotter. And as a 6-core CPU is the more likely buy, it looks like any of the mentioned coolers will be more than enough.

Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Not knowing what motherboard you are using means we don't if wider coolers you are considering will not overlap your 16x PCIe socket. Just a thought.
Problem is I don't know yet - none of the X570 are for sale yet. If there will be no decent affordable (under $200) X570 board then I'll go for MSI X470 Gaming Plus. As far as I've checked, none of these coolers should interfere with PCIe x16 slot on modern motherboards.
06-10-2019 08:18 AM
doyll Not knowing what motherboard you are using means we don't if wider coolers you are considering will not overlap your 16x PCIe socket. Just a thought.
06-10-2019 08:01 AM
AlphaC
Quote: Originally Posted by Mungojerrie View Post
Thanks for the input! All Noctua coolers except for U12A require separate AM4 mounting kits but those kits are readily available in retail, cost $5 and I've included their cost in the listed prices.
Regarding the staggered heat pipes - is that a good or a bad thing?
Also is it worth getting D15S over U14S purely for performance in your opinion? Or is the difference too small to even bother considering it?

Thanks for the input. Height is not an issue since all of those are below 170mm tall. Sadly, LGMRT is completely out of stock now so why is your money on U12A?

Depends on how high you are overclocking , I can tell you for a fact that True Spirit 140 Power and NH-U14S both can handle a Ryzen 7 2700X / Ryzen 7 1700X overclocked , even more so if you're not using AVX instructions to encode or whatnot.


NH-U14S heatpipes being staggered means that the airflow around the heatpipes isn't in the wake of other heatpipes so the dissipation is a bit higher than if they're in a line. The design also means that heat spreads across some more of the fin area.
06-10-2019 06:58 AM
doyll I agree with Owterspace about LGMRT. Only possible problem is if you have RAM behind CPU or PCIe socket is too close.


If you are seeing Noctua coolers without AM4 mount in the box they are extremely old stock. AM4 was released September 2016 .. 2 years 8 months ago.


NH-D15s is probably a little better than U14S, but not much.


Probably because NH-U12A has 7x heatpipes and 2x Nf-A12x25 fans (best fans out right now), all in 158x135x112mm package makes it a winner in everyone's eyes .. except those who can't stand baby poo brown fan colors.
06-10-2019 06:37 AM
Mungojerrie
Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
Mugen 5 if you can't fit the Thermalright Macho / ARO-M14G.


NH-U14S has staggered heatpipes but performance is close enough that you should only buy it if you can get the newer version with AM4 support out of the box.
Thanks for the input! All Noctua coolers except for U12A require separate AM4 mounting kits but those kits are readily available in retail, cost $5 and I've included their cost in the listed prices.
Regarding the staggered heat pipes - is that a good or a bad thing?
Also is it worth getting D15S over U14S purely for performance in your opinion? Or is the difference too small to even bother considering it?



Quote: Originally Posted by Owterspace View Post
LGMRT is 3mm shorter than the M14G, and 1mm taller than U12A.

M14G rated @ 240w, LGMRT rated @ 320w. Also, LGMRT is big, but in a compact way.

Since you cant run TS140P, my money would be on LGMRT or U12A, and out of those two I would choose Thermalright again.
Thanks for the input. Height is not an issue since all of those are below 170mm tall. Sadly, LGMRT is completely out of stock now so why is your money on U12A?
06-09-2019 08:22 PM
Owterspace LGMRT is 3mm shorter than the M14G, and 1mm taller than U12A.

M14G rated @ 240w, LGMRT rated @ 320w. Also, LGMRT is big, but in a compact way.

Since you cant run TS140P, my money would be on LGMRT or U12A, and out of those two I would choose Thermalright again.
06-09-2019 04:52 PM
AlphaC Mugen 5 if you can't fit the Thermalright Macho / ARO-M14G.


NH-U14S has staggered heatpipes but performance is close enough that you should only buy it if you can get the newer version with AM4 support out of the box.


see https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/778...j-30-en-40-dbn
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/[email protected]


130W, 40dB
NH-D15 = 49.5°C
NH-U14S = 50.6°C
Mugen 5 = 53.3°C


https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018...ooler_review/3
CPU-only temp with overclocked Ryzen 7 , 3.9 GHz at 1.475 volts in Prime95:
NH-U14s single fan = 79.9°C
ARO-M14G = 83.3°C


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...lright-ARO-M14
Ryzen 1700X @ 3.9GHz
NH-D15 = 61°C
ARO-M14G = 64°C
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