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03-26-2020 01:57 PM
IPS.Blue
Quote: Originally Posted by r0ach View Post
I am out of the niche of this particular mouse. I make lots of use of a middle mouse click, scroll, and my optimal mouse would probably have 2 additional utility buttons on the top as well as 2 on the left side like the G9 had. I typically use a lot of buttons. That and I don't know if I would actually aim good with this or not. I'm used to 800 DPI and I imagine I'd have to use way lower because it's so light.
You get used to lower/higher CPI quickly.
I am surprised you use that many buttons on a mouse by the way. You have a less is more approach when it comes to disabling PC features to reduce overall system lag, so I thought youd prefer minimalistic mice with not many buttons.
03-26-2020 01:09 PM
r0ach
Quote: Originally Posted by IPS.Blue View Post
By the way r0ach, did you back us on Kickstarter? Would be interesting to see if you could tell the difference between an M1K at 1,000 Hertz versus one at 8,000 Hertz.
I am out of the niche of this particular mouse. I make lots of use of a middle mouse click, scroll, and my optimal mouse would probably have 2 additional utility buttons on the top as well as 2 on the left side like the G9 had. I typically use a lot of buttons. That and I don't know if I would actually aim good with this or not. I'm used to 800 DPI and I imagine I'd have to use way lower because it's so light.
03-24-2020 12:07 PM
fourthavenue
Quote: Originally Posted by IPS.Blue View Post
By the way r0ach, did you back us on Kickstarter? Would be interesting to see if you could tell the difference between an M1K at 1,000 Hertz versus one at 8,000 Hertz.
I'm sure he didn't.
03-24-2020 09:17 AM
IPS.Blue
Quote: Originally Posted by r0ach View Post
All 3389 mice I've used from the Steelseries Ten to the Endgame XM1 had rubbery, relatively high smoothing cursors compared to AMO10, 3360, 3366, Hero 16k, etc. The smoothing on the 3389 isn't insane, it just felt similar to a 3310 sensor. So the mice are usable, but they don't feel like an upgrade from the 3366 to me and feel more like a downgrade back to the 3310.
By the way r0ach, did you back us on Kickstarter? Would be interesting to see if you could tell the difference between an M1K at 1,000 Hertz versus one at 8,000 Hertz.
03-24-2020 08:25 AM
r0ach
Quote: Originally Posted by cdcd View Post
In any case, the 3389 has more smoothing than the 3360, both in terms of range and amount.
All 3389 mice I've used from the Steelseries Ten to the Endgame XM1 had rubbery, relatively high smoothing cursors compared to AMO10, 3360, 3366, Hero 16k, etc. The smoothing on the 3389 isn't insane, it just felt similar to a 3310 sensor. So the mice are usable, but they don't feel like an upgrade from the 3366 to me and feel more like a downgrade back to the 3310.
03-20-2020 07:54 AM
IPS.Blue
Quote: Originally Posted by fourthavenue View Post
This mouse is said to ship in March. Is anyone still watching this mouse?
First production batch is close to being sold out, so yea, I guess people are watching.
03-19-2020 11:02 AM
fourthavenue This mouse is said to ship in March. Is anyone still watching this mouse?
12-28-2019 07:09 AM
IPS.Blue
Quote: Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post
the low speed (very roughly <1m/s) framerates of 3389 are lower than 3360's, so in some sense 2 frames smoothing for 3389 is more than 2 frames for 3360
Huh, didnt think of that.



Quote: Originally Posted by RyuKobs View Post
3389 is sounds like an unstable overclocked version of the 3360 xD
Higher numbers in the product name dont always make for a better product.
12-22-2019 03:52 AM
RyuKobs 3389 is sounds like an unstable overclocked version of the 3360 xD
12-21-2019 04:15 PM
qsxcv
Quote: Originally Posted by IPS.Blue View Post
It could also be that the 3389 has poorer surface tracking quality because it has less smoothing than the 3360. If so, I dont think this trade-off was worth it. Also: even in the 3389 you cannot disable smoothing completely. The 3389 offers a «ripple control» register but even when that is set to «0» there still is smoothing, just less of it.
smoothing has nothing to do with surface compatibility. except if there is an enormous amount, then it might hide very minor surface incompatibility. but that's not what's going on here.

the statement "3389 has less smoothing than 3360" is misleading/wrong. they are both 2 frames at minimum, which encompases most usage scenarios (i.e. <1800dpi). number of frames of smoothing depends on dpi setting, srom version, and the value of the ripple control register (available for 3389 only). the low speed (very roughly <1m/s) framerates of 3389 are lower than 3360's, so in some sense 2 frames smoothing for 3389 is more than 2 frames for 3360

Quote: Originally Posted by cdcd View Post
It seems, however, to be more difficult to get timing consistency right with the 3389, which (on average) appears to have higher jitter than the 3360 in many implementations.
no... you change like 2 lines of code (apart from the srom) to change from 3360 firmware to 3389.

note that:
3389 has lower (low speed) framerates than 3360.
3389 has higher high speed (roughly >1m/s) framerate, but the sensor does something like only updating the motion registers every other frame when it's in this mode.
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