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10-17-2019 03:26 PM
Hale59
Quote: Originally Posted by ryouiki View Post
Well 2700X replaced with 3900X, CBS menu has returned so I can access BGS options again, memory will now go past 3200 (right now stopped at 4x8 / 3600 14-15-15-14-28 / 1.4V).

I really haven't kept up to date that well with the 3000 series, is negative voltage offset on vcore still recommended against? Honestly the temperatures are surprising on this chip, it seems to run very close to what the 2700X was doing before.

The only unexpected behavior now is the system will always power off temporarily when it is restarted.
Try this - Do you have a C-State and DF State enabled? Try -0.0385v offset and LLC 1
10-17-2019 11:31 AM
Shadowized I think I've hit a wall and would appreciate some advice.

I put this system together recently and so far things have been fine with the kit of memory I bought (F4-3200C14D-32GVK, dual rank b-die) and have been poking at it trying to make it push past my current stable 24/7 settings of 3600MHz 16-16-16-32-48-288-1t @ 1.40v (I could probably reduce the voltage more and it would still be stable), Ideally I aim for 3733-3800MHz but the second I raise it from 3600 MEM/FCLK to even 3666 it just pukes on itself and enters ram training mode, the strangeness I'm having though is that it will occasionally post and get into windows or memtest86+ and go for a little bit without trouble, but when I reboot to change something it will begin failing and going back to ram training again, occasionally getting stuck with a 15 q-code.

I've tried raising the voltages one by one to narrow it down and even went as far as trying with awful timings of 20-20-20-40-80 @ 1.46v, but the end results were relatively the same failure rates on getting past the ram training, maybe 1 in 6 times it works and that won't hold past a reboot or two when wanting to adjust settings. I noticed that I can't set some of the voltages that the dram calculator suggests like vref CHA/B (DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA / CHB) which I noticed don't go anywhere near the 0.72~ range that I should be setting them to, nor VDDIO / VTT which don't get read on the sensors in any program Ive tried.

the only thing I haven't really touched was the CadBus / Setups, but I'm still really new to the platform and at a bit of a loss on what else to try next, I'm in no means unhappy with my ram OC so far but I can't help but feel it can go higher if I can just figure out why it fails with just a mundane bump in frequency, otherwise I can go the other direction and just work on tightening timings further, has anyone experienced similar or know of a setting/timing which would help with what I'm describing?

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Voltages
CPU Core Voltage [Offset mode]
CPU Offset Mode Sign [-]
- CPU Core Voltage Offset [0.11250] (tried just leaving it on auto, no diff)
CPU SOC Voltage [Manual mode]
- VDDSOC Voltage Override [1.07500] (tried up to 1.2)
DRAM Voltage [1.40000] (tried up to 1.5)
CLDO VDDG voltage [0.960] (tried up to 1.1)
CLDO VDDP voltage [920] (tried up to 1000)
VPP_MEM Voltage [2.52000]

Phase
CPU Load-line Calibration [Level 3]
CPU Current Capability [120%]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Manual]
CPU Voltage Frequency [400]
CPU Power Duty Control [T.Probe]
CPU Power Phase Control [Power Phase Response]
CPU Power Thermal Control [120]
VDDSOC Load-line Calibration [Level 3]
VDDSOC Current Capability [120%]
VDDSOC Switching Frequency [Auto]
VDDSOC Phase Control [Power Phase Response]
DRAM Current Capability [120%]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Manual]
Fixed DRAM Switching Frequency(KHz) [400]
DRAM VBoot Voltage [1.40000]

Timings
DRAM CAS# Latency [16]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [16]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [16]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [16]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [32]
Trc [48]
TrrdS [6]
TrrdL [8]
Tfaw [24]
TwtrS [4]
TwtrL [12]
Twr [12]
Trcpage [Auto]
TrdrdScl [5]
TwrwrScl [5]
Trfc [288]
Trfc2 [Auto]
Trfc4 [Auto]
Tcwl [16]
Trtp [8]
Trdwr [8]
Twrrd [4]
TwrwrSc [1]
TwrwrSd [7]
TwrwrDd [7]
TrdrdSc [1]
TrdrdSd [5]
TrdrdDd [5]
Tcke [Auto]
ProcODT [53.3 ohm] (tried 60, 48)
Cmd2T [1T]
Gear Down Mode [Enabled]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RttNom [Rtt_Nom Disable] (tried on, auto, RZQ/7)
RttWr [RZQ/3]
RttPark [RZQ/1]
MemAddrCmdSetup [Auto]
MemCsOdtSetup [Auto]
MemCkeSetup [Auto]
MemCadBusClkDrvStren [Auto] (Auto = 24)
MemCadBusAddrCmdDrvStren [Auto] (Auto = 24)
MemCadBusCsOdtDrvStren [Auto] (Auto = 24)
MemCadBusCkeDrvStren [Auto] (Auto = 24)
10-17-2019 03:48 AM
mightyrepooc
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
Which BIOS version? And if you're using 2703 or 2801 then are you using the Performance Bias feature set to either Cinebench option?
Pretty sure it error came when board was still on 2606. I updated vie flashback to 2801 as soon as the error 55 appears. I never used any performance bias option. Also in the current setup with the 3600x (running bios 2801) i do not use the performance bias feature. Should i use it?
10-16-2019 09:56 PM
ryouiki Well 2700X replaced with 3900X, CBS menu has returned so I can access BGS options again, memory will now go past 3200 (right now stopped at 4x8 / 3600 14-15-15-14-28 / 1.4V).

I really haven't kept up to date that well with the 3000 series, is negative voltage offset on vcore still recommended against? Honestly the temperatures are surprising on this chip, it seems to run very close to what the 2700X was doing before.

The only unexpected behavior now is the system will always power off temporarily when it is restarted.
10-16-2019 10:45 AM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by mightyrepooc View Post
Old topic, but i would like to update so if any one finds this got some help:

Summary: Ryzen 2700x does not boot to post and gives error 55 (no memory installed). Slightly overclocked with BLCK to 103.4 and little soc voltage + offset. RAM was set to 3200 Mhz running without errors.

So what i have been trough: I tested my 2700x on an Crosshair VI from a friend and it gives the same error. Tested his 3600x on my board, running fine. So the CPU is defect. Creating an RMA ticket at AMD support, they accepted it and i needed to send my 2700x to the netherlands. I bought a 3600x in that time because i wasn't sure if it wasn't my fault with to much soc voltage to burn the CPU. But AMD send me a brand new 2700x. I will keep the 3600x tough because RAM is running at 3800 Mhz without problems and performance increased heavily with it.

So thanks again for any advise!
Which BIOS version? And if you're using 2703 or 2801 then are you using the Performance Bias feature set to either Cinebench option?
10-16-2019 01:20 AM
mightyrepooc
Quote: Originally Posted by mightyrepooc View Post
Uodate from my site: Installed new ram, still dame behaviour. I assume the mother board is bricked. I will meet a friend of mine tomorrow and try to run my 2700x on his crosshair vi. And we will try his 3600x on my crosshair vii. Will report which device causes the error (cpu or motherboard)...
Old topic, but i would like to update so if any one finds this got some help:

Summary: Ryzen 2700x does not boot to post and gives error 55 (no memory installed). Slightly overclocked with BLCK to 103.4 and little soc voltage + offset. RAM was set to 3200 Mhz running without errors.

So what i have been trough: I tested my 2700x on an Crosshair VI from a friend and it gives the same error. Tested his 3600x on my board, running fine. So the CPU is defect. Creating an RMA ticket at AMD support, they accepted it and i needed to send my 2700x to the netherlands. I bought a 3600x in that time because i wasn't sure if it wasn't my fault with to much soc voltage to burn the CPU. But AMD send me a brand new 2700x. I will keep the 3600x tough because RAM is running at 3800 Mhz without problems and performance increased heavily with it.

So thanks again for any advise!
10-15-2019 10:01 AM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post
And thats something ive always suspected with these older style AIO cold plates :3
Hopefully Asetek is working on something new for their next generation. I'd personally love something made for Threadripper with an AM4 mount.
10-14-2019 12:42 PM
Reikoji
Quote: Originally Posted by lordzed83 View Post
I'm on World of Warcraft classic addiction sicne came out myself so dont check forums. TBH since I'w set up my mems ocs everything I'w not had any bsods reboots or problems at all So left it as it is not like i can get any more out of the 1.0.03 ABB anyway gotta way till next month for 1.0.0.4


This is interesting . Test of block orientation ect on 3000series cpus. As we know rotated works best
https://www.igorslab.media/en/ryzen-...ing-results/2/
And thats something ive always suspected with these older style AIO cold plates :3
10-14-2019 09:24 AM
Hale59
Quote: Originally Posted by lordzed83 View Post

This is interesting . Test of block orientation ect on 3000series cpus. As we know rotated works best
https://www.igorslab.media/en/ryzen-...ing-results/2/
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...l#post28153410
10-14-2019 09:08 AM
lordzed83
Quote: Originally Posted by oreonutz View Post
Holy Crap! I have been gone for almost exactly a Month, and have missed out on 300 Pages of Posts! Someone Fill me In! LOL! What have I missed?

What is the new best UEFI to use right now. I am still using the Mod By @mtrai as I loved the performance, but after being on it for 6 weeks and finally having some time, I am ready to experiment with something new. Any one have an opinion on some of the newest UEFI's to come out? About to go looking myself, but figured I would ask before I look.

I'm on World of Warcraft classic addiction sicne came out myself so dont check forums. TBH since I'w set up my mems ocs everything I'w not had any bsods reboots or problems at all So left it as it is not like i can get any more out of the 1.0.03 ABB anyway gotta way till next month for 1.0.0.4


This is interesting . Test of block orientation ect on 3000series cpus. As we know rotated works best
https://www.igorslab.media/en/ryzen-...ing-results/2/
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