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09-15-2019 09:19 PM
Y2BNE1
Quote: Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
The PMU FW (IMC) has changed recently.
Probably could do a hybrid build, but I have to try few things first since the new PMU uses decryption keys whereas the old one didn't.
Would this mean that newer bios (2703) has PMU Firmware that does not work well with my ram? FYI, if i simply remove 2 sticks (down to 32GB) everything works without any issues.

Quote: Originally Posted by boatmurder View Post
my recent experience https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-a...l#post28125516
tl/dr turn of DOCP (reset to defaults to be sure), manually set timings through AMD overclocking menu instead of extreme tweaker, manually set DRAM and FCLK frequency and DRAM voltage.

i still get good boosting behavior. Single threaded tasks like cinebench 1T or Dwarf Fortress worldgen will switch between cores and hit 4.45GHz on all of them. Cinebench MT runs at 4.275GHz, prime95 dynamically changes from around 4.325 to 4.125 depending on the specific test. (it's fun to watch voltages go down and current go up / vice versa). *
I'm planning to write a simple graph to track frequency over time, atm i'm just tracking frequency by watching a report of _current_ frequency from "watch -n 0.5 cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq" terminal output, lol. Geekbench report says there ought to be a few 4.475 moments in there at least.


* your mileage will vary here. I've got an average or slightly below average 3800X for clocks according to the silicon lottery stats.
Just tried that, and does not seem to help in my case with my random freezes/qcodes. I don't actually have problem booting OS, but overall 2703 or 0002-FI has much more random freezes and crashes when compared to 2501 BIOS.

For me, to reliably show issues:

1. Boot OS and then restart, BIOS would usually get stuck on 1F code, and to get back to normal I just need to reset the box.
2. Start prime95 Large FFTs and windows usually crashes within few minutes (video just disappears, but it appears that whatever operation was started continues to run)

None of these are issues when I use 2501 bios.
09-15-2019 08:46 PM
boatmurder
Quote: Originally Posted by Y2BNE1 View Post
C7H WIFI 2703 bios with 3800X and 64GB of RAM
my recent experience https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-a...l#post28125516
tl/dr turn of DOCP (reset to defaults to be sure), manually set timings through AMD overclocking menu instead of extreme tweaker, manually set DRAM and FCLK frequency and DRAM voltage.

i still get good boosting behavior. Single threaded tasks like cinebench 1T or Dwarf Fortress worldgen will switch between cores and hit 4.45GHz on all of them. Cinebench MT runs at 4.275GHz, prime95 dynamically changes from around 4.325 to 4.125 depending on the specific test. (it's fun to watch voltages go down and current go up / vice versa). *
I'm planning to write a simple graph to track frequency over time, atm i'm just tracking frequency by watching a report of _current_ frequency from "watch -n 0.5 cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq" terminal output, lol. Geekbench report says there ought to be a few 4.475 moments in there at least.

* these are all stock without pbo, increased frequency limit or anything else.
your mileage will vary here. I've got an average or slightly below average 3800X for clocks according to the silicon lottery stats.
09-15-2019 07:59 PM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
No.
ZP PMU FW has been the same since AGESA 1.0.0.6 (PinnaclePi) bios, build 1103.
Sigh. Intellectually, I knew that. But the bit of me that buys lotto tickets still had his fingers crossed.
09-15-2019 07:55 PM
The Stilt
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
Would that only have an impact on Ryzen 3000 CPUs? Or was there a change for the Ryzen 2000 CPU IMC firmware too? Or am I just misunderstanding all of this?
No.
ZP PMU FW has been the same since AGESA 1.0.0.6 (PinnaclePi) bios, build 1103.
09-15-2019 07:10 PM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
The PMU FW (IMC) has changed recently.
Probably could do a hybrid build, but I have to try few things first since the new PMU uses decryption keys whereas the old one didn't.
Would that only have an impact on Ryzen 3000 CPUs? Or was there a change for the Ryzen 2000 CPU IMC firmware too? Or am I just misunderstanding all of this?
09-15-2019 07:02 PM
The Stilt
Quote: Originally Posted by Y2BNE1 View Post
Maybe someone can help me out here, or share their experiences. I am trying to get 64GB of Crucial Ballistix Sport AT (BLS4K16G4D32AEST) working on my C7H WIFI mobo with 3800x. So far I've tried few different bioses with the following results:

Asus 2501:
- Able to run RAM @ 3400mhz @ cl14 with 1.38v (24hrs of prime95 and 24 hours of google stress test app without errors)
- Does not boost very high (4.35ghz or so)
- No issues booting/rebooting once ram vboot voltage is 1.37 or 1.38+
- Many bios menus/options are hidden

Asus 2703:
- not stable at DOCP, even with increased voltages to the ram/soc. I get random hangs (qcode F1/02/07) when cold booting or rebooting windows

0002-FI
- Basically same issues as Asus 2703
- Boost to 4.575ghz easily

So far 2501 is the most stable bios that works with my RAM. Would anyone happen to know if there are some default settings that are set in 2501 bios that I could replicate in 0002 to get my RAM working? Also is there a guide I could use to try to get latest AGESA into 2501 bios?
The PMU FW (IMC) has changed recently.
Probably could do a hybrid build, but I have to try few things first since the new PMU uses decryption keys whereas the old one didn't.
09-15-2019 04:57 PM
Y2BNE1 Maybe someone can help me out here, or share their experiences. I am trying to get 64GB of Crucial Ballistix Sport AT (BLS4K16G4D32AEST) working on my C7H WIFI mobo with 3800x. So far I've tried few different bioses with the following results:

Asus 2501:
- Able to run RAM @ 3400mhz @ cl14 with 1.38v (24hrs of prime95 and 24 hours of google stress test app without errors)
- Does not boost very high (4.35ghz or so)
- No issues booting/rebooting once ram vboot voltage is 1.37 or 1.38+
- Many bios menus/options are hidden

Asus 2703:
- not stable at DOCP, even with increased voltages to the ram/soc. I get random hangs (qcode F1/02/07) when cold booting or rebooting windows

0002-FI
- Basically same issues as Asus 2703
- Boost to 4.575ghz easily

So far 2501 is the most stable bios that works with my RAM. Would anyone happen to know if there are some default settings that are set in 2501 bios that I could replicate in 0002 to get my RAM working? Also is there a guide I could use to try to get latest AGESA into 2501 bios?
09-15-2019 04:37 PM
mtrai @Synoxia Just for you ;-) I included Hpet in both the modded bios I uploaded today.
09-15-2019 03:13 PM
CharliesTheMan
Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post

I see quite a few newbies here - could I request that you go to the Tools>Quick Links>Edit Signature (top of this screen) and put in the basic details of your systems - it makes it much easier for us to help you
Thanks, this actually reminded me to get my butt in gear and do it.
09-15-2019 02:14 PM
Synoxia
Quote: Originally Posted by speedgoat View Post
i think it was just a HWiNFO bug guys.. i hope this didnt really happen
Yes ofcourse his is a hwinfo bug lol 5.2ghz... ours are real every ryzen 3k can have a small boost with BCLK
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