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08-10-2020 06:44 PM
crakej
Quote: Originally Posted by lordzed83 View Post
After week of ******* arounf with this 3103 came to conclusion its not worth it 2703 is my bios of choice got this mega stable and its well faster than 3103 on STABLE settings. I played arouind with Proc ODT and in my case memory gets unstable below 34 most stable been 36 from start of zen on Teamgroup memory.
I might go back to 2801 which was best for me... 2606 is way too buggy.
08-10-2020 09:55 AM
kmellz
Quote: Originally Posted by WinterActual View Post
ASUS pushed new bios for the X570 ->

Improve system performance and stability
Improve Fan control function
Improve DRAM stability
Update AM4 AGESA combo V2 PI 1.0.8.0
Improve system stability
Improve DRAM performance

I hope we get that one too because I would like to see the improved fan control function. If they finally removed the 60% lower limit for the DC fans.
I can set mine lower, you have to do the auto tune thing first though I think. I wish they'd redo the whole fan part though, it's super buggy :|
08-10-2020 07:13 AM
WinterActual ASUS pushed new bios for the X570 ->

Improve system performance and stability
Improve Fan control function
Improve DRAM stability
Update AM4 AGESA combo V2 PI 1.0.8.0
Improve system stability
Improve DRAM performance

I hope we get that one too because I would like to see the improved fan control function. If they finally removed the 60% lower limit for the DC fans.
08-09-2020 04:37 AM
lordzed83
Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
I've loaded bios 2606 (the last one with PCIE 4 enable) to experiment with. My ambient temp is 27/28C so might not be able to achieve as much as I'd like....

I've not run any proper tests yet, but I can tell you what I've noticed straight away... using my 3733 profile with PE3 and EDC 'bug' (or not as the case may be) - as close to the profile that I had running on 3103.

Proc ODT had to be on auto (36.9) or no boot. 3101 boots with Proc ODT as low as 30, though doesn't do me any good having it any lower.

The bios is setting my CLDO_VDDP at 1.1v! This suggests to me that bios would be setting VDDG at 1.2v (based on my experiments bios puts .1v distance, not .05v), though I've not checked this properly yet.

Boot time is VERY quick! So quick that if trying to get safe mode by holding power button in, it often doesn't work and you have to go through the lengthy CMOS reset and boot.

I have to mention PCIE 4 - All these bioses had many versions before with PCIE 4 enabled - on purpose. AMD have disabled this feature for no reason at all. Everything is running well from the PCIE 4 root, which made windows reload some drivers to take account of. Shame I don't have a cards sitting around to test it....

RTT and CADBus are the same here - 7, 3, 1 and 0, 0, 0 respectively.

CPU idle voltages are lower, CB R15 Multi score is just under that of same profile on 3103 (apart from no PE3). SC seems worse so far but not properly tested.... which leads me to....

PBO - it's NOT working the same as on 3103! Had same manual settings as 3103 - 4096, 4096, 20. The EDC 'bug' doesn't seem to be present - EDC NEVER exceeds 100% in the few tests run so far, though multi score is nearly as high as ever.

Don't have a huge amount of time today, but I will be doing more tests over the weekend, especially with voltages. If you want me to test anything on this bios, let me know!
After week of ******* arounf with this 3103 came to conclusion its not worth it 2703 is my bios of choice got this mega stable and its well faster than 3103 on STABLE settings. I played arouind with Proc ODT and in my case memory gets unstable below 34 most stable been 36 from start of zen on Teamgroup memory.
08-07-2020 03:30 AM
crakej I've loaded bios 2606 (the last one with PCIE 4 enable) to experiment with. My ambient temp is 27/28C so might not be able to achieve as much as I'd like....

I've not run any proper tests yet, but I can tell you what I've noticed straight away... using my 3733 profile with PE3 and EDC 'bug' (or not as the case may be) - as close to the profile that I had running on 3103.

Proc ODT had to be on auto (36.9) or no boot. 3101 boots with Proc ODT as low as 30, though doesn't do me any good having it any lower.

The bios is setting my CLDO_VDDP at 1.1v! This suggests to me that bios would be setting VDDG at 1.2v (based on my experiments bios puts .1v distance, not .05v), though I've not checked this properly yet.

Boot time is VERY quick! So quick that if trying to get safe mode by holding power button in, it often doesn't work and you have to go through the lengthy CMOS reset and boot.

I have to mention PCIE 4 - All these bioses had many versions before with PCIE 4 enabled - on purpose. AMD have disabled this feature for no reason at all. Everything is running well from the PCIE 4 root, which made windows reload some drivers to take account of. Shame I don't have a cards sitting around to test it....

RTT and CADBus are the same here - 7, 3, 1 and 0, 0, 0 respectively.

CPU idle voltages are lower, CB R15 Multi score is just under that of same profile on 3103 (apart from no PE3). SC seems worse so far but not properly tested.... which leads me to....

PBO - it's NOT working the same as on 3103! Had same manual settings as 3103 - 4096, 4096, 20. The EDC 'bug' doesn't seem to be present - EDC NEVER exceeds 100% in the few tests run so far, though multi score is nearly as high as ever.

Don't have a huge amount of time today, but I will be doing more tests over the weekend, especially with voltages. If you want me to test anything on this bios, let me know!
08-06-2020 06:38 AM
lordzed83
Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
This is great info thanks! I hadn't tried going lower than the XMP yet....

I found at 3733MTs I had to have VSoC @ 1.08125 and the bios was putting 1.1v for VDDG and 1.0 for CLDO - I'll try your slightly lower voltages see if I can get away with that.... but the bios was putting them 0.1v apart, not 0.5v.

I may try a pre-3xxx bios later to really try figure out what's changed.
Ye this bios is just weird on IF.....
08-06-2020 06:16 AM
crakej
Quote: Originally Posted by kratosatlante View Post
Hello 3933 I did not test test but enter the OS and see that it did not restart need cl16, cl15 with gdm off or 2T dont work, I have some 4533, running 3800/1900 but with bclk 99.8, my CPU does not want to do 3800 reais although with the last bios I could do it and it seemed stable, after Reflashing the bios don't save that profile, for now i can't find the exact point of cld vddp, vddg iod / ccd and vsoc, currently 3792/1896 cl 14 trfc228 1.55v bios (1.515 hwinfo) I can also do cl13 2t with the 4 stick But with a not so reasonable voltage, more tests are missing and if I can reduce the voltage by raising some values. With bios profiles do you mean the txt that is saved on a pendrive?

4533 firt screen all second software closed, for some reason aida install dont work, only portable, second with some softwares open
3 screen actual stable config pROODT 32(34 and 36 work) vsoc 1.06250, cld vddp 927 , vddg 977 , cad 24-20-24-24 for some reason 60-20-20-24 work but if shut down pc o reload profile form bios hard to post very hard, continue all test 24-20-24-24
This is great info thanks! I hadn't tried going lower than the XMP yet....

I found at 3733MTs I had to have VSoC @ 1.08125 and the bios was putting 1.1v for VDDG and 1.0 for CLDO - I'll try your slightly lower voltages see if I can get away with that.... but the bios was putting them 0.1v apart, not 0.5v.

I may try a pre-3xxx bios later to really try figure out what's changed.
08-05-2020 12:24 PM
kratosatlante
Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
I have same memory as you - whats your performance like at 3933/4533? What are you running FCLK at?

Would be interesting to see your bios profiles
Hello 3933 I did not test test but enter the OS and see that it did not restart need cl16, cl15 with gdm off or 2T dont work, I have some 4533, running 3800/1900 but with bclk 99.8, my CPU does not want to do 3800 reais although with the last bios I could do it and it seemed stable, after Reflashing the bios don't save that profile, for now i can't find the exact point of cld vddp, vddg iod / ccd and vsoc, currently 3792/1896 cl 14 trfc228 1.55v bios (1.515 hwinfo) I can also do cl13 2t with the 4 stick But with a not so reasonable voltage, more tests are missing and if I can reduce the voltage by raising some values. With bios profiles do you mean the txt that is saved on a pendrive?

4533 firt screen all second software closed, for some reason aida install dont work, only portable, second with some softwares open
3 screen actual stable config pROODT 32(34 and 36 work) vsoc 1.06250, cld vddp 927 , vddg 977 , cad 24-20-24-24 for some reason 60-20-20-24 work but if shut down pc o reload profile form bios hard to post very hard, continue all test 24-20-24-24
08-05-2020 05:35 AM
crakej
Quote: Originally Posted by kratosatlante View Post
In first bios can do 4066 , 4x8gb viper 4400c19, dont remember witch bios , now bios 3103 only 3933 four stick, but 4533 cl16 with 2sticks
I have same memory as you - whats your performance like at 3933/4533? What are you running FCLK at?

Would be interesting to see your bios profiles
08-05-2020 02:23 AM
crakej Hmmm - I wonder why this bios seems harder to stabilize?

I'm glad it's not just me then!
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