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04-08-2020 11:48 PM
crakej
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
Aww, that's a bummer on the 1900 FCLK. Mine won't POST at anything higher than 1900 FCLK unless it's just a slight BCLK overclock. And Shamino didn't come back to answer if there is anything else new in the BIOS and I didn't notice anything other than its peculiar behavior that I mentioned before.

Oooh a Vive. I don't have binocular vision so I don't think I'd ever buy one, but I do wish I knew someone that had one so I could see if the experience is diminished for someone that only uses one eye.

I've been looking for an excuse to play with Davinci. What videos do you edit? Work or pleasure?
I don't have binocular vision either, but it seems to work fine for me. Even some 3d! It seems to help me use my eyes together. I wear my distance glasses while using it too.

A friend was doing a #StayAtHome challenge - he climbed the height of Everest, on his stairs at home! He live streamed it and I'm editing the footage from that. So pleased with the way my machine chomps through it!

It's a shame Shamino didn't let us know anything else about future bios. I'm really peeved that we haven't been given proper control of CPU OC in the bios like x570 boards have received - CCD and CCX OCing. It feels like that's another thing we're not getting to try and make us buy a new board.

Having to buy a new board every year if you choose to upgrade your CPU, and want full functionality, seems a bit greedy to me. Remember being told we wouldn't have to upgrade our boards as new chips would run? We don't have to - unless we want the chip to work as advertised.

I'm also at the point where it seems the mess that's in the bioses (duplicate and triplicate settings, some work, some don't) is not going away any time soon either, but it sure feels like we're being left behind all in the name of product stack variation.....a bit like the PCIE debacle - and yes, they could re-enable PCIE4 like they've done on at least 1 of their B450 boards.
04-08-2020 08:25 PM
Praetorr
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
I set FCLK manually as well.
Interesting, and thanks for responding. So setting FCLK manually is all you do to ensure things stay 1:1:1 > 3600mhz memory speeds? I thought I had tried that, but maybe I also changed some other settings that are bugged.
04-08-2020 02:09 PM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by Praetorr View Post
How do you guys keep your memory and IMC clocks sync'd when going over 3600mhz on the RAM? On BIOS 3004, I get major issues as soon as I set my memory to anything over 3600mhz. Super frustrating, as I've got a (seemingly) pretty nicely binned SoC in my 3900X, based on prior testing with another board.
I set FCLK manually as well.
04-08-2020 12:42 PM
Praetorr How do you guys keep your memory and IMC clocks sync'd when going over 3600mhz on the RAM? On BIOS 3004, I get major issues as soon as I set my memory to anything over 3600mhz. Super frustrating, as I've got a (seemingly) pretty nicely binned SoC in my 3900X, based on prior testing with another board.
04-08-2020 06:32 AM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
I've not installed it as not using BCLK currently, but I did notice it wasn't working how it had worked last time I tried.

My chip won't do 1900FCLK sadly but my performance seems pretty good with 3700 1850FCLK - It has booted at 1900 before, so could do more experimenting but think it's prob a no-go for me

I've recently got an HTC Vive Cosmos to ease the shut-down boredom - which is running really well on my machine... Also been doing lots of video editing in Davinci Resolve 16 which works like a dream!
Aww, that's a bummer on the 1900 FCLK. Mine won't POST at anything higher than 1900 FCLK unless it's just a slight BCLK overclock. And Shamino didn't come back to answer if there is anything else new in the BIOS and I didn't notice anything other than its peculiar behavior that I mentioned before.

Oooh a Vive. I don't have binocular vision so I don't think I'd ever buy one, but I do wish I knew someone that had one so I could see if the experience is diminished for someone that only uses one eye.

I've been looking for an excuse to play with Davinci. What videos do you edit? Work or pleasure?
04-08-2020 05:39 AM
crakej
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
Did you see that new BIOS on the previous page? It doesn't seem to POST as reliably as 3004 does at the same settings, but the BCLK overclocking works with it.
I've not installed it as not using BCLK currently, but I did notice it wasn't working how it had worked last time I tried.

My chip won't do 1900FCLK sadly but my performance seems pretty good with 3700 1850FCLK - It has booted at 1900 before, so could do more experimenting but think it's prob a no-go for me

I've recently got an HTC Vive Cosmos to ease the shut-down boredom - which is running really well on my machine... Also been doing lots of video editing in Davinci Resolve 16 which works like a dream!
04-07-2020 07:39 AM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by crakej View Post
I've always set those to auto as well for the same reason. I've now got 4 sticks and if I leave the rest on auto (I do) this is what I get:
Did you see that new BIOS on the previous page? It doesn't seem to POST as reliably as 3004 does at the same settings, but the BCLK overclocking works with it.
04-07-2020 04:01 AM
crakej
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
The fix works to allow for BCLK adjustments and maintaining Core Performance Boost. Many thanks.

First bug or odd behavior I've found is with RAM timings left on Auto. It's only two in particular as they are the only ones I leave set to Auto. I leave them on Auto because each channel is usually set separate of the other and are usually something like 8/2 on one channel and 9/1 on the other channel.
I've always set those to auto as well for the same reason. I've now got 4 sticks and if I leave the rest on auto (I do) this is what I get:
04-05-2020 05:40 AM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by Flexarius View Post
Yes i use DRAM Calculator, but some cold start problems every day. I have to load my saved Asus profil again and there are still problems getting this to work. If it successful loaded in UEFI, i can run windows stable - but i have to complete my RAM-Test tools to find the best settings.
I will try your 3800/1900 MHz settings (your Pic ZenTimmings 1.04 - pages back). Need some some inspirations in you complete Asus UEFI settings.

I know the Settings RTT Settings etc. for 4 DIMMs are different to your 2 DIMMs, but the rest should work for me too (Main Settings for CPU and Board etc.).

Not many people use the GSkill 3600C15 today and there are some "special" Settings for the F4-3600C15-8GTZ etc.

Maybe you see some false settings in my pic and give advise to get this faster/stable.

Thanks


My current settings - yours bellow :
Well I leave the resistances on Auto so I can't shed any light there, but one thing I always do is leave tRDWR and tWRRD on Auto as the board sets those differently per channel. You won't see that while in Windows, but if you look at them in BIOS you'll see them set to something like 10/1 on one channel and 9/1 on the other channel when set to Auto.

Edit:

Something else I've been doing lately is setting all primaries higher so that I can go lower on tRFC. At 14-15-14-14-30-44 I couldn't go lower than 310 on tFRC, however, with 16-16-16-16-34-50 I have been able to run 250 on tRFC and that seems to do better. I haven't tested overnight yet but it seems promising.
04-05-2020 03:33 AM
Flexarius
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
My settings won't work well for you as I only have a 2x8GB kit and those settings I run on Auto. Your 4x8GB will need different values. Higher ProcODT and other resistances. Have you used the DRAM Calculator?
Yes i use DRAM Calculator, but some cold start problems every day. I have to load my saved Asus profil again and there are still problems getting this to work. If it successful loaded in UEFI, i can run windows stable - but i have to complete my RAM-Test tools to find the best settings.
I will try your 3800/1900 MHz settings (your Pic ZenTimmings 1.04 - pages back). Need some some inspirations in you complete Asus UEFI settings.

I know the Settings RTT Settings etc. for 4 DIMMs are different to your 2 DIMMs, but the rest should work for me too (Main Settings for CPU and Board etc.).

Not many people use the GSkill 3600C15 today and there are some "special" Settings for the F4-3600C15-8GTZ etc.

Maybe you see some false settings in my pic and give advise to get this faster/stable.

Thanks


My current settings - yours bellow :
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