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09-17-2019 05:54 AM
pschorr1123
Quote: Originally Posted by Molano View Post
Hey Guys,

I've been having trouble with my Aorus x570 Pro motherboard / memory combination and i'm wondering if anyone ran into the same issues. I see a lot of people with issues getting ram stable and i have the same trouble, however whatever i try it doesn't seem to help.

First of all, i have the Aorus x570 pro, with a 3700x and i had G.Skill Trident Z F4-4133C19D-16GTZKWC. This memory wasn't stable at XMP, or any other speed than the standard JDEC speed. I returned the memory thinking it was bad and got back G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C16D-16GVK. These are on the QVL list so i hoped this would work without issue. They are not stable at any overclock either.

They are in de A2 / B2 slots. I tried applying the XMP profile with the voltage at 1,35 manually and it's not stable.I get loads of soft errors. Especially adobe premiere exporting results in errors at any speed except 2133. But GTA5 or even minecraft crash occasionally too at non stock speeds.

I've tried all the Bios's that are available on the Gigabyte website. The latest bios (f6a) gives me BSOD's randomly whatever i do. On F5 the system seems stable on JDEC, but nothing above. Same with the other bios's.

I tried the DRAM calculator safe settings for my memory and it's just as unstable. I tried upping the voltage to 1,45 on XMP as well which doesn't help. The memory doesn't run very hot either, it's at 33 / 37 degrees celcius.

Last night i've done a complete reinstall of windows to troubleshoot and right now all i have installed is the drivers for my GPU and i installed premiere and minecraft. I also disconnected all devices except monitor and input. It seems to be stable on optimized defaults right now, however as soon as i load the xmp i get soft crashes again. No BSOD's or anything, just applications crashing within 20 minutes when stressing the system a bi


CPU temps aren't very high either. Max 60 degrees.

When i go back to defaults it seems to be stable again.

Are there any other voltages or settings i could play with? I tried putting the command rate to 2t, tried enabling gear down and played around with ProcODT, but nothing seems to work.
Hello, since we have the exact same memory kit so may be able to get stable with my timings. Also be sure to enter every single ram setting manually. Do not leave any set to auto as they have a tendency to change every boot.

Before you try anything though test 1 stick at a time to see if you have a hardware issue.
load xmp with only 1 stick also test each slot on mainboard ( a couple users have had hardware defects with the actual memory slot on board)

download ramtest hcl from:https://hcidesign.com/memtest/

you can learn how to use memtest hcl and test ddr4 stability here: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-a...ty-thread.html

The 2nd picture is tweaked timings that have proven stable for me so far. These B-die kits can easily do 3600 cl 16 all day long on Ryzen 3rd gen

You may have better luck lowering your ProcODT I have mine @ 53.3 but you can try 48 or lower

report back after testing each stick and slot individually and we can go from there as you will likely find that if you only populate 1 slot your pc will run fine
09-17-2019 12:57 AM
panni
Quote: Originally Posted by rastaviper View Post
What is wrong with F5a bios at Elite??

No problems with F4 for keeping my 3600x at 1.32v with no manual ocing and my 3200 G.skill at 3660 16-15-15-1T at 1.37v.

After upgrading and loading the same settings, I can't even have the pc boot. After powering up it shuts down.
I have to totally remove power cable and restore bios settings to enter to bios.

Bios is supposed to get better, not worse..

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk
You're complaining about the instability of the BIOS after switching from stable to beta. Really dude?

Edit: pardon me. I didn't realize they actually released it officially. That's a bummer.
09-16-2019 11:47 PM
Molano Hey Guys,

I've been having trouble with my Aorus x570 Pro motherboard / memory combination and i'm wondering if anyone ran into the same issues. I see a lot of people with issues getting ram stable and i have the same trouble, however whatever i try it doesn't seem to help.

First of all, i have the Aorus x570 pro, with a 3700x and i had G.Skill Trident Z F4-4133C19D-16GTZKWC. This memory wasn't stable at XMP, or any other speed than the standard JDEC speed. I returned the memory thinking it was bad and got back G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3600C16D-16GVK. These are on the QVL list so i hoped this would work without issue. They are not stable at any overclock either.

They are in de A2 / B2 slots. I tried applying the XMP profile with the voltage at 1,35 manually and it's not stable.I get loads of soft errors. Especially adobe premiere exporting results in errors at any speed except 2133. But GTA5 or even minecraft crash occasionally too at non stock speeds.

I've tried all the Bios's that are available on the Gigabyte website. The latest bios (f6a) gives me BSOD's randomly whatever i do. On F5 the system seems stable on JDEC, but nothing above. Same with the other bios's.

I tried the DRAM calculator safe settings for my memory and it's just as unstable. I tried upping the voltage to 1,45 on XMP as well which doesn't help. The memory doesn't run very hot either, it's at 33 / 37 degrees celcius.

Last night i've done a complete reinstall of windows to troubleshoot and right now all i have installed is the drivers for my GPU and i installed premiere and minecraft. I also disconnected all devices except monitor and input. It seems to be stable on optimized defaults right now, however as soon as i load the xmp i get soft crashes again. No BSOD's or anything, just applications crashing within 20 minutes when stressing the system a bit.

CPU temps aren't very high either. Max 60 degrees.

When i go back to defaults it seems to be stable again.

Are there any other voltages or settings i could play with? I tried putting the command rate to 2t, tried enabling gear down and played around with ProcODT, but nothing seems to work.
09-16-2019 08:36 PM
rastaviper What is wrong with F5a bios at Elite??

No problems with F4 for keeping my 3600x at 1.32v with no manual ocing and my 3200 G.skill at 3660 16-15-15-1T at 1.37v.

After upgrading and loading the same settings, I can't even have the pc boot. After powering up it shuts down.
I have to totally remove power cable and restore bios settings to enter to bios.

Bios is supposed to get better, not worse..

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk
09-16-2019 06:51 PM
Elrick
Quote: Originally Posted by Aenra View Post
The three most common issues, by far, with mobos are:
i) integrated cards (sound or visual)
ii) integrated wireless solutions
iii) fan powering and controlling.
For over a decade now.
That is why I have gotten rid or NOT ever used any Wifi solutions at all, cable connections throughout the household is still here even during 2019 and beyond.

Onboard sound still works if used with Redmond's original sound file for Optical Connections (Spdif) to my external DAC.

Have switched everything over to an external Fan Controller, have given up using any Asus, Gigabyte and MSI's pwm fan controls (utterly useless and ineffective).

Suspect this type of setup won't change this year or the next hence you cope the best you can for the money already wasted on this abysmal hardware, that has less control over it's own resources than ever before. Still refuse to go back to the Intel Camp, I'm already in deep with AMD and it's uncooperative crew of idiots and fools (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc).
09-16-2019 06:08 PM
BlueFllame To recap my sound issues:

When my Sehnheiser headphones with a 3.5 mm jack are plugged in the back of the board, I get a loud buzzing sound in the right headphone when I'm playing a game.

When they're plugged in the front, the noise is less loud and it's in the left headphone.

I don't remember exactly when these issues started, but I'm pretty sure they weren't there in the beginning. I think it might be from the most recent windows cumulative update, but I supposedly uninstalled it and the issue didn't go away.

Is anyone else experiencing something similar?
09-16-2019 07:25 AM
Ziyan
Quote: Originally Posted by Juggerone View Post
It seems there's still an issue with Gigabyte's RGB Fusion software. I'm running 3600/CL16 B-dies (Trident Z RGB) on Aorus Elite, bios F5a, and while having RGB Fusion installed, at each restart or cold boot, the RAM frequency goes to 2133 - gotta re-enable XMP, save and go (until next restart). As soon as I've removed RGB Fusion the issue was gone.

I have the same issue with F7a on Master, and the latest RGB Fusion (B19.0905.1). I should note that I didn't have this issue before updating BIOS from F5n, and RGB Fusion from the previous version. Unfortunately, I can't tell which one is causing the issue.





09-16-2019 06:04 AM
Aenra
Quote: Originally Posted by drmrlordx View Post
It's still supposed to work. Let's not make excuses
No one's making excuses; you're just being.. a bit immature (don't get offended please) and/or perhaps merely succumbing to wishful thinking.

Sure, everything should work perfectly, sure, everything needed should be included, etc. etc. I don't discard the theory.
But now welcome yourself to reality, where nothing -is- perfect and where, even if everything's included? It's not intended for you. Rather, it is intended for a mainstream user and/or the stingy "enthusiast" that expects millisecond perfection with 585762352 extra dials and functions from an integrated mini controller with no extra cost or heat dissipation; one that fits in mere millimeters of mobo space at that... because 'muh rights'.

You want extra bells and whistles, you want fan revolutions fine-tuning above and beyond the.. average, you pay for them. Just like everywhere else.
Or you post here about all the problems you have, your call. Just don't include me in juvenile pseudo-philosophical/ethically-oriented discussions, not the forum for those. I mentioned facts, you're always free to discard them. And as to facts?

The three most common issues, by far, with mobos are:
i) integrated cards (sound or visual)
ii) integrated wireless solutions
iii) fan powering and controlling.
For over a decade now.

So smell that coffee, or stay here and complain about why, in a capitalist system, nothing's perfect, but in fact profit-driven... surprise.. but really, do.
In the meantime, i'll do something with my fully functioning system if that's O.K.

(life.. we deal with it as it is, not as we'd have wanted it to be. It being why i implored you not get offended. You don't always have to like it; but you do have to acknowledge it)
09-15-2019 08:44 PM
Spank7
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobrolak View Post
@GBT-MatthewH
Hi Matthew, at first thanks for all the support you are giving, you rock.
Can you maybe help us with this boot priority issue? Looks like there's at least 4 of us (I am quoting others below, however I am not sure about Hyralak's problem, it may be different thing), who has problems with boot priority. For x570 master problem appeared in F6, generally I think its since adding "Fix compatibility of SATA hot plug and RAIDXpert2 setting"

To visualize Im attaching 2 pictures with most basic setup - 2 different SATA disks only. Boot priority only shows one, random.

In my case I have 6 disks, boot priority only lists one random disk and it never shows disk which I really want to boot , no matter how I connect disks to SATA ports. I am unable to enter "Hard drive BBS priorities". All of my boot disks are CSM-compatible.







It turned out 2 same disk models is not issue on my side. I have this problem also after disconnecting one of the same disks...


No. Just no, you can install windows 10 on CSM, without secure boot. Then you need CSM. I have it installed that way and I am using same windows 10 since 3 motherboards and it works just fine.
I have the exact same problem , the only solution that worked for me so i can be able to put from 1st nvme that has windows was to remove my 3 disks ( nvme 1 , nvme 2 and hdd ) and then install nvme 1 that has windows restart pc entered bios and was ok it had the 1st device now with windows , then i shut down and installed the 2nd one and again shut down and installed the 3rd one.

There is probably some problem with new bios f7a and f6 so its better to have been fixed with the f7
09-15-2019 04:21 PM
drmrlordx
Quote: Originally Posted by arnebanan View Post
Maybe it's got something to do with "SATA hot plug fix" as someone suggested above?
That would be my guess. SATA hotplugging does seem to work now, and Win10 even offers to let me unplug my MX200 SATA3 drive even though I don't want to. Which is fine. That's more-or-less what it's supposed to do, I guess. I'd rather it found my 970 EVO though.

Quote: Originally Posted by Aenra View Post
Random (not in the slightest, but..) musings;
It's still supposed to work. Let's not make excuses for big companies like Gigabyte when they sell people faulty (or misconfigured) equipment. I can't do a cable drop where I live, so it's either a). wifi or b). put the computer right next to the router, which is not currently an option. Imagine my surprise when I found out that the bundled AX200 in my x570 Master has problems on the 5 GHz band in AC mode. Looks like a driver issue. Lots of people are having the problem, and Intel isn't doing much on their support forum to help them. I can buy a USB dongle and get all the fun that comes from USB NICs that overheat (yay) or have latency issues. I could buy a PCIe adapter and get an mPCIe 802.11ax NIC once one comes out that isn't as buggy as the AX200. Or maybe, just maybe, I can get a driver for the equipment I have now that isn't complete bunk. Not holding my breath waiting for that, though.

And though I am not having any trouble with fans on my x570 Master, it seems like the majority of people here with complaints about their fans are complaining about the chipset fan. A dedicated controller would not fix that problem.

Finally, what piece of external equipment do you think we should be purchasing to fix the drive recognition problem? Should we all boot form NAS devices?
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