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01-19-2020 01:54 PM
dimitris21 Hi all,
Ive just made full new build including the Asus TUF X570 Plus and im looking for some starting guides to BIOS settings for the CPU (gonna try safe settings with minimum possible voltages and then we'll see with single core or multi core overclock, since i see that's where all the juice is) and its voltages as well as the DDR timings and any other tips.
I havent messed with overcloking since the days of C2D/C2Q and LGA775 to be honest(my QX9650 at 4ghz is still up and running ever since 2010-longest ever running chip for me), with legacy bioses, and suddenly i find a whole new load of info to mess around ))))

(ive updated bios to 1405 - and have just enabled OC Tuner as a first try which has set the CPU to 3950mhz instead of the default frequency fluctuation like speedstep. The OC tuner dropped the default set voltage from 1.464 to 1.35 but judging from other temps(MB and diodes) the chipset voltages are increased when enabling the oc tuner).\Ok i guess i have a long way to go and see what effects all these new settings have, thus im looking for some guidelines


Thank you,
01-16-2020 10:48 AM
Gunderman456
Quote: Originally Posted by dajez View Post
I guess they replaced it with the realtek audio console app
Yeah, the Realtek Console has no Dolby or Atmos. If you use Digital then Win 10 will let you use Dolby. Sigh... Realtek needs to pay Dolby and give us back a proper HD Audio Manager.

I tested with The Outer Worlds and it seems the game does not support 5.1. Really, not impressed with the game at all. From claustrophobic maps, simplified RPG elements and as you keep peeling the layers it comes off pukish just like it's vomit enticing RBG color pallet. You could see the reviewers were not too enthused about the game but rated it above average since it did not have any political agendas in the game which they found refreshing. They should have been harder on it.

Anyway, I tested with Borderlands 3 and I get 5.1 surround. So it looks like it was an Outer Worlds issue.

Overall, I'm not happy with Realtek or games that don't support 5.1 out of the box in 2020. People have complained and obviously there have been no fix so far.
01-16-2020 10:00 AM
dajez
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post
Anyone notice you don't get Dolby with the Realtek drivers anymore when using analogue? Kind of sucks not to have 5.1 in games.

Asus gives you the drivers but you can't get the Realtek HD Audio Manager either from Asus or Realtek (last Realtek driver/manager from their website is from 2017). Apparently, Realtek did not want to pay royalties.

There are a number of solutions. I'll update once I decide which solution would be best and test run it.
I guess they replaced it with the realtek audio console app
01-16-2020 05:51 AM
Gunderman456 Anyone notice you don't get Dolby with the Realtek drivers anymore when using analogue? Kind of sucks not to have 5.1 in games.

Asus gives you the drivers but you can't get the Realtek HD Audio Manager either from Asus or Realtek (last Realtek driver/manager from their website is from 2017). Apparently, Realtek did not want to pay royalties.

There are a number of solutions. I'll update once I decide which solution would be best and test run it.
01-14-2020 08:07 AM
CyberStormZA Okay so I'd just like to report my experience with this board.



I purchased the ASUS TUF GAMING X570 PLUS (WIFI) back in November 2019 and ran it with the following components:


Ryzen 7 3700x
Corsair Vengeanace RGB Pro 16GB x 2 (3200Mhz)

ADATA XPG 512GB M.2 SSD
MSI GTX 1060Armor 6GB OC Edition
EVGA Supernova 750W Gold Rating Power Supply


The machine was running STOCK with no overclocking done.



A few days after completing my build the system randomly rebooted without any warning or error message.


I checked the event viewer logs and found nothing specific.


A few hours later the same thing happened again. Both times it happened at idle. No applications were open. In the coming days the random reboots become more frequent and started occuring when doing things as diverse as playing online games, doing photo editing in Lightroom, editing video in Premier Pro, typing out an email or browsing the web.



I was determined to get the cause of the issue and performed the following troubleshooting steps:



1. Updated all drivers to the latest available versions. (Reboot still occurred)

2. Updated the BIOS to the latest available version. (Reboot still occurred)
3. Checked for malware and virus infections. (Reboot still occurred)
4. Performed a clean install of Windows 10 Pro and updated drivers to the latest available versions again. (Reboot still occurred)

5. Ran Temperature monitoring software to check if the issue was caused by overheating. (Reboot still occurred)
6. Removed ASUS software one at a time to determine if any of those applications were the cause of the reboots. (Reboot still occurred)
7. Removed my RAM, Graphics Card, Power Supply, Hard Drive and inserted known fully-working components. (Reboot still occurred)
8. Connected my rig to a 2Kva Line Interactive UPS. (Reboot still occurred)
9. Moved my rig to another power socket in the house. (Reboot still occurred)
10. I set the BIOS to default settings. (Reboot still occurred)
11. Set the BIOS to optimised defaults. (Reboot still occurred)
12. I did some research online and disabled PBO in the BIOS. (Reboot still occurred)
13. Did further research and then tried every single XMP profiles from 3200Mhz to 3600Mhz. (Reboot still occurred)
14. I set the Power settings in Windows to Balanced from AMY Ryzen Balanced. (Reboot still occurred)
15. I disabled hibernation. (Reboot still occurred)
16. I increased the Windows Page File.(Reboot still occurred)
17. I disabled the Windows Page File. (Reboot still occurred)


I then encountered a reboot while I was in the BIOS and determined that it was not a Windows issue.

At this stage I has eliminated every single hardware component except the CPU and MB.



I then bought another motherboard (A cheap Gigabyte A320M with the BIOS update already done by the supplier) and installed all my components onto this board.
I ran the Gigabyte board for 4 straight days without a single reboot.



I then knew for sure that my board was the issue.

I returned it to the supplier who promptly replaced it with a brand new board.


I take the board home, remove the Gigabyte board and install all my components back.


After about 30 minutes the random reboots happened again.



I highly doubt that 2 x boards could have the exact same fault although it is technically possible.



I am now going to return the second board to the supplier for a full refund. I am looking for an alternate X570 board to purchase.


I am just letting any prospective buyers know about the issue I faced in the hopes that it might help someone that may experience this issue.
01-11-2020 07:22 PM
ZealotKi11er No issues with this board with Samsung B-Die. Both 3200 14-14-14 and 3400 16-18-18
01-11-2020 07:11 PM
Tony Cipriani I seem to have resolved this. I noticed that Thaiphoon Burner was giving me a whole lot more XMP parameters that DOCP was not setting and leaving on auto. Namely:

Active to Active/Refresh Delay Time (tRC) at 56T
Four Acivate Window Delay Time (tFAW) at 39T
Short Activate to Activate Delay Time (tRRD_S) at 6T
Long Activate to Activate Delay Time (tRRD_L) at 8T
Normal Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC1) at 560T
2x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC2) at 416T
4x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC4) at 256T

So I have set all of these new XMP settings manually myself, and so far, so good. To be fair the system did hang immediately after setting these and rebooting. However, after shutting down and booting up again, these settings have lasted through 4 restarts through Windows and 4 restarts through the BIOS. I'd have been lucky to get away with two total under the DOCP profile.

Now to run memtest for a couple of hours.
01-10-2020 08:11 PM
Tony Cipriani
Quote: Originally Posted by dajez View Post
Do you have your sticks in the right slots?

Also isn't it taking a long time for a new BIOS version, last one is alrdy from 26/11
Yep, in slots A2 and B2. And yes, we appear to be overdue for an update! I assume not much happens over the holidays but hoping for a new BIOS to try very very soon...
01-10-2020 08:22 AM
dajez
Quote: Originally Posted by Tony Cipriani View Post
I've just noticed that the QVL list (https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m..._X570_0722.pdf) placed the timing of my RAM (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR) at 18-18-18-38 instead of 16-18-18-38. Should I try that instead? It seems odd.
Do you have your sticks in the right slots?

Also isn't it taking a long time for a new BIOS version, last one is alrdy from 26/11
01-09-2020 08:52 PM
Tony Cipriani I've just noticed that the QVL list (https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m..._X570_0722.pdf) placed the timing of my RAM (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR) at 18-18-18-38 instead of 16-18-18-38. Should I try that instead? It seems odd.
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