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08-06-2020 10:56 PM
JackCY Simple, get the cheaper one unless one has a cooler worth it's premium. $70 premium... well that better be a water cooler then as air coolers don't even cost that much, unless I don't know, it's top of the line copper one.

Samsung memory doesn't really matter. You can see it in the endless reviews and user reports, the Micron also OCs around 16 GHz. The thing is Samsung can be binned for special cards to get the best chips.
Getting Samsung VRAM isn't worth almost any extra $.
08-05-2020 02:10 PM
loube Better make your decision quick RTX2070 Super, 2080 Super, and 2080ti have been discontinued

https://www.techspot.com/news/86252-...r-2080-ti.html
08-04-2020 09:55 PM
actosb Hello & Greetings to the Community!

I would need some help with choosing the better card from these two: https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Comparis...ids=7020,7021#

As I understand, the Windforce OC 3X (GV-N207SWF3OC-8GD) has one less heatpipe (5 vs 6), lacks RGB and comes with less warranty period, but has higher max power (240W vs 250W).
I could get the Windforce OC 3X for 70$ cheaper because it's an open box item (one customer almost bought it, opened the box in the store and tried it for 5 minutes but did not take it because of the lack of RGB).
We know that the Windforce OC 3X has Samsung memory, because they made a gpu-z check durring the instore test.

My questions:
- Would it be better to risk and order the Gaming OC 3X (GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD)?
- Are those with Samsung memory also, or that is random luck?
- Would the extra heatpipe matter?

Thank you very much for any help!
08-03-2020 01:46 AM
JennyBeans so uh I have an odd issue everytime i shut off my computer and turn it back on , 1 monitor out of 3 doesn't get a signal , its got a hdmi to dvi adapter, to correct it i gotta change ports with the other monitor which is my center and main to get a signal again
07-31-2020 01:02 PM
qhash I bought OC 3X version. Seems to be not the quitest among the other 2070 Super a I have used in my node 202 - both PNY Dual fan and PALIT Gamepremium were much quieter. PNY was also cooler. It is really strange as PNY is the thinnest of the three.
07-28-2020 06:33 PM
JackCY Arctic P12 PWM. They are cheap but also perform well, so it's a decent value fan and the PWM motor on the P series is better than the older one, certainly better than F series nonPWM motor.
For the price of 1 Noctua fan I put these into my whole case in 140 mm. The price of Noctua is simply that bad even after they moved production to Asia/China. They do make some interesting and high speed fans for those that need them, only the price isn't right or competitive.
These Arctic P fans push air in a stream behind them if they have enough intake air without obstruction. They are for pressure oriented use which in my experience is almost all use in PCs where cases have too much intake restriction, grills, filters, and coolers have fins/radiators to overcome. The only place I have an airflow oriented fan is case exhaust with no grill and that thing as all these fans do spits out air around it's sides not in a stream behind it.

If I open front case door and let all dust into the PC then the 3x 140 mm front fans push air behind them all the way to the rear and out of case, whether the case has any sides on it or not to direct the air. With limited filtered case front intake that's a different matter, all fans choke on that for air.

I couldn't find the GB 3X variant either I think, it's all reviews of the earlier or other versions.
07-28-2020 03:04 AM
qhash
Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Shop around, there are many versions. You always have to look at each if it's gonna fit the 3rd party cooler or not.
There are occasionally reasonable coolers on cards and some area easier to swap to 2x120 mm fans than other.

VRMs... you have to dig through photos or reviews to find the precise chips and then decide for yourself if what the card has is enough for you or not.
Doing the calculations for VRMs and waste heat... far from trivial and even Buildzoid seems to often eyeball it in his videos.
You have to have a bit of electrical knowledge to know if the VRMs are good or bad for the power you want.

3x fan cards tend to be low and long, which will not fit 2x120 mm fans well.

I do like 2x120 mm fans on my card, it's quieter and cooler but I think I bit lucked out as the fan controller seems to me to control the fans to target RPM not to target PWM, this makes the fans spin fast enough and not slow as their max RPM is 1800 not some crazy 2500-3000 as the original 100 mm fans.
That is why I ask. I am not sure how the PCB of Windforce 3X looks like as all of the reviews are for a non 3X version and PCBs of those two cards are different. Removing the heatsink will prevent me from returning the card. All shops do have a policy that you cannot disassemble the card, just plug it in and check how it works. Most of the time, removing the heatsink voids the warranty, so I can understand that king of a policy from a seller.

Nice setup you have. What fans are those? Did you chose them over Noctuas due to the price/performance comparison or maybe there are quieter than Noctuas?
07-27-2020 06:36 PM
JackCY Shop around, there are many versions. You always have to look at each if it's gonna fit the 3rd party cooler or not.
There are occasionally reasonable coolers on cards and some area easier to swap to 2x120 mm fans than other.

VRMs... you have to dig through photos or reviews to find the precise chips and then decide for yourself if what the card has is enough for you or not.
Doing the calculations for VRMs and waste heat... far from trivial and even Buildzoid seems to often eyeball it in his videos.
You have to have a bit of electrical knowledge to know if the VRMs are good or bad for the power you want.

3x fan cards tend to be low and long, which will not fit 2x120 mm fans well.

I do like 2x120 mm fans on my card, it's quieter and cooler but I think I bit lucked out as the fan controller seems to me to control the fans to target RPM not to target PWM, this makes the fans spin fast enough and not slow as their max RPM is 1800 not some crazy 2500-3000 as the original 100 mm fans.
07-27-2020 12:11 AM
qhash I am looking for an RTX 2070 super card that will be a good candidate for an Accelero . I want a reasonably cheap card with an easy-to-remove cooling solution.

My first choice is Windforce OC 3X as it is cheap, 4 years warranty ( I am not sure whether I will lose it or not after I remove the heatsink - thats is also a question in my mind), 250W target and if I dont apply the Accelero at the end, I will still end up with a pretty decent cooling. Second option is GameRock (non Premium). It is 50 USD more expansive, thicker radiator and reviews say that it is almost whisper quiet under load. This card is tempting, but I am not sure if it is worth to pay 50 USD more. It has USB-C, but that is not important to me.

Things I do not know and are factors influencing my choice are (I think):
which one has a better VRM?
which one's heatsink is easier to remove?


sidenote:
As I have Node202, I could potentially only remove the fans from Gigabyte/Gamerock and use 2x120mm fans in the GPU chamber slots dedicated for that purpose. what you guys think about that?
07-22-2020 04:42 PM
gtz
Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Really? Ebay?

"Received a brick want a refund." Ebay: "ok".

I'm surprised people still consider Ebay for personal sales.
I am not a fan of selling on eBay, mostly because of all the fees associated with it. Just do research before you sell it and it should be safe. At the end of every listing I put the following.

Please only bid/buy if you meet the following criteria below.

No new members.

If you don't have any recent (within 6 months) positive feedback history as a buyer.

If you don't have a 100% feedback as a buyer. If you have had a problem in the past what guarantees me it won't happen again.

I reserve the right to review the feedback history of the buyer. If I see anything suspicious I will cancel the sell.


With the above you pretty much weed out 95% of scams or buyers looking to screw over the seller.

I look for previous feedback as a buyer. If the eBay member has more the 5 positive feedback within 6 months I will ship. If the buyer is new and has no feedback (scammer) I cancel immediately. If the buyer has great feedback but has not used his account in over a year I cancel the order (account hacked).

Now with that said you don't weed out stupidity. So you still have to deal with that.

But regardless my biggest problem are the fees liked mentioned earlier, but eBay gives you such a broader market to sell that is why I continue to use it. I usually post thru Craigslist and Let Go first, then OCN. If I don't sell within a few days I post it on eBay.

Quote: Originally Posted by Newbie2009 View Post
Do we know yet when new cards will be out? Thinking of throwing my 2070 super on ebay.
Everything looks like it points to a fall release. But nothing concrete.
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