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12-17-2019 10:26 PM
DarthFK
Quote: Originally Posted by mihgeo View Post
@DarthFK hello and thank you!with tearing i solved: the problem in my case is from w7 x64 AERO-desktop(one services is off i put on) and i activate in services: Desktop Window Manager Session Manager ,restart and tearing go
with timing personal i solved the problem i use CRU and i copy the timing to txt,i delete CRU,i open radeon timing-manual and i put inside all number for refresh rate 75hz...

So the forum is overclock.net ...
i have big question for all i want to modified bios(RX 470) with Polaris bios editor only value fan and gpu clock but i read in many sites Windows not know modified singnature...after flash bios every time need to use (when instaled new driver)Pixel Clock Patcher Without patch your card will have error 43
So is a way to not have this error with bios modified?or only this error is from UEFI i have OS instaled in legacy mod?
Hi @mihgeo, sorry for a late reply. Good to hear the tearing was solved.

Unfortunately, can't help you with the modified bios. I am actually puzzled as to why would you modify the vBIOS to only change the clock and fan speeds? That's simply overcomplicating a simple issue - you can change the clock and fan speeds via MSI Afterburner way easier!!!


One more thing - I hope you saved the original BIOS via ATIflash. And I hope you made a copy of the original vBIOS before modifying it with the PBE.
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ati-atiflash/
12-13-2019 02:02 PM
mihgeo @DarthFK hello and thank you!with tearing i solved: the problem in my case is from w7 x64 AERO-desktop(one services is off i put on) and i activate in services: Desktop Window Manager Session Manager ,restart and tearing go
with timing personal i solved the problem i use CRU and i copy the timing to txt,i delete CRU,i open radeon timing-manual and i put inside all number for refresh rate 75hz...

So the forum is overclock.net ...
i have big question for all i want to modified bios(RX 470) with Polaris bios editor only value fan and gpu clock but i read in many sites Windows not know modified singnature...after flash bios every time need to use (when instaled new driver)Pixel Clock Patcher Without patch your card will have error 43
So is a way to not have this error with bios modified?or only this error is from UEFI i have OS instaled in legacy mod?
11-17-2019 07:37 AM
mihgeo @DarthFK OK,i write you in privat
11-17-2019 12:26 AM
DarthFK First try to update your DX library with this:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=17431

If this doesn't work let me know and I'll explain once again how to upgrade your windows.

And... ti-as explica in romana, dar forul e in engelza si poate sa mai vina cineva cu o idee, asa ca hai sa tinem conversatia in engleza, ok? eu asa voi face. Daca ai nevoie de clarificari, scrie in privat pe mesageria OCN
11-16-2019 05:33 AM
mihgeo @DarthFK i found the problem! but i not know how resolve...
is from dxdiag windows!in dxdiag show approx.dedicated memory only 3759mb
i tell you all steps: i use gpu-z,hw-info,msi afterburner,
i play gta 5 with all to maxim with rezolution 1080p(my monitor have maxim 1080p) and the msi afterburner vram usage
real time display in game-use 3800~4095
and i go to settings in gta5 and i put up rezolution 2560x1440 and the pictures-graphic 3D in game briliant but now surprise,all software tell me i used in real times of game only >250mb vram(same videocard 1999) ))) this up 250mp is the number over 4096.
i use MSI kombustor 3 with tab: msi memory burner setup to 4gb and show to desktop realtime 4095...
and next i put setup msi kombustor to 6 gb vram and surprise show use 1993mb so 1993+4095 is 6088,6gb!
the direct-X is last version but not show correct vram utilization i think...

my windows is home premium x64 w7 and is instaled in legancy mbr not uefi
the first time if you know is a way to rezolve? and the next time i prefer to go W10 x64...
11-15-2019 10:53 PM
DarthFK
Quote: Originally Posted by mihgeo View Post
i read this post from nvidia,subject vram problem with windows 7,so i have windows 7 x64 is posible the video-card rx 470 with 8gb to use only 4gb in gaming-limitation not full 8gb?
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce...nning-at-4gb-/
@DarthFK
update- i buy another XFX rx 470 8gb is same model,But same problem gpu-z and hw-info tell me when play intensive game example :metro exodus maximum 4gb use not full 8gb,is from OS W7x64 or driver,hadrware?
Ok, so now that you've got the GPU without missing capacitors hopefully let's address the VRAM usage.

1. The VRAM usage is never constant and will be less than the total amount installed. My card doesn't use 100% of VRAM. I installed the MSI Afterburner with Riva Statistics Tuner (they come together) and made adjustments to show them during recording - on my Windows10 and I can just use Windows+G keys on the keyboard to record the desktop or games. Sometimes I record my testing (computers are just a hobby, but I do some testing for my own curiosity) with Radeon ReLive, which is a part ofd the most recent AMD Adrenaline Drivers (google AMD drivers, you will get there - if you didn't). So, I only play Titanfall2 and on my old machine (7700k/MaximusIX/Asus Strix RX580-8gb) my VRAM usage was jumping from 5Gb to 6.5Gb usage - and this is on an RX580 with 8gb VRAM. So, the first thing to keep in mind is that not all the ram will be used by all games, but there are a few games (some of the Tomb Raiders) that can use a lot

2. To Windows7 - apparently, yes, there was a problem with VRAM usage on Windows7x64. Here is a thread from the same nvidia community about DX9 limitation of vram usage to 4Gb:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce...for-dx9-games/
Maybe you need to also update your DX library:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=17431

3. It's a bit difficult to know what is the real reason in your situation - maybe your GPU just doesn't need more than 4Gb (see point 1) for your specific game and everything is fine.

First of all try to talk to the people who play the same game and ask them how much VRAM their machines consume? Alternatively, if you have a willing friend, you can just install the game and the GPU on a Windows 10 machine to check if there is a big difference - some difference will happen! That's normal.

It very well might be that @moneywim is correct. Let's not forget that different pieces of software contradict each other quite often and as I said some games do not take advantage of all VRAM. I also incline to believe that in your case everything is ok, but you can try what I suggested and go beyond that. It is up to you.

4. Going beyond the first phase - if you asked around or tested on Windows10 and people don't have the 4Gb problem - ok, then we can suspect Windows 7 with much higher certainty. If you want to eliminate Windows7 out of the equation, you do know that you can still upgrade for free from Windows7 to Windows10? If Windows 10 can solve your problems, which it might (but don't treat it as a "promise" ok?! I know people tend to say "but you said it will", so, it's not a promise ) then you might want to upgrade to Windows 10. Just save your everything (documents, bookmarks, etc), then download on a USB the INF drivers for the CPU, then the drivers for your mobo (chipset/MEI, SATA, Wifi, LAN, AudoHD and USB), then the AMD Drivers for windows 10x64 for your RX GPU, and then you have two options:

a. upgrade your machine directly with the media creation tool ("upgrade this PC" option) - this is a method of slapping the newer Windows10 over the older Windows7, and I am not a big fan of that. It works, but the PC is faster with a completely clean install;

b. or the other option it offers - create a Windows installation USB (it will delete everything on that USB and create Windows installation bootable media - but you will need to set the USB as boot override from BIOS). You can then do a perfectly clean install - your Motherboard already has a Windows activation on it (yes the Windows 7 activation will be still recognized even if you delete the old Windows totally and do a clean install of Windows 10 on a system where windows was already running) and it "remembers" Windows' serial number linked to this hardware, even if you do a clean install. Again, it just doesn't matter that it was Windows7 - the only thing you have to do is to click "I don't have the product key now" (or something like that) during Windows installation.

Here is the Windows Media Creation Tool link directly from Microsoft:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

(c. reserve option - if the activation somehow doesn't work, it did every time I used that method, without exceptions - you can still buy a key for $13-$17 form here:

Home
https://www.scdkey.com/software/win-...m_1379-20.html

or Pro here:
https://www.scdkey.com/microsoft-win...l_1227-20.html)

I must say that I helped a guy who also believed that such a Windows "upgrade" via a clean installation was not possible, but when he was successful, he was shocked And don't think that it doesn't work in Eastern Europe or EU, 'cause... it does

Oh, after you have created the USB with Windows installation, create on it a folder for drivers (give it a name you want), then you'll have them ready for install as soon as the Windows boots. After Windows 10 install, do the installation of all the drivers in the order I described them to you in pt. 4, restarting after each driver.
11-15-2019 09:34 PM
moneywim
Quote: Originally Posted by mihgeo View Post
i read this post from nvidia,subject vram problem with windows 7,so i have windows 7 x64 is posible the video-card rx 470 with 8gb to use only 4gb in gaming-limitation not full 8gb?

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce...nning-at-4gb-/

@DarthFK

update- i buy another XFX rx 470 8gb is same model,But same problem gpu-z and hw-info tell me when play intensive game example :metro exodus maximum 4gb use not full 8gb,is from OS W7x64 or driver,hadrware?
To be honest this looks normal to me...
Total amount of us on hwinfo is almost 8gb at dedicated memory tab.
If I'm correct mostly texture is loaded in you memory is that set on Max?
BTW also with my gpu rx580 8gb and BFV I don't use all the gpu ram all the time.
I think you are good to go

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11-14-2019 04:21 PM
mihgeo i read this post from nvidia,subject vram problem with windows 7,so i have windows 7 x64 is posible the video-card rx 470 with 8gb to use only 4gb in gaming-limitation not full 8gb?
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce...nning-at-4gb-/
@DarthFK
update- i buy another XFX rx 470 8gb is same model,But same problem gpu-z and hw-info tell me when play intensive game example :metro exodus maximum 4gb use not full 8gb,is from OS W7x64 or driver,hadrware?
11-14-2019 05:09 AM
mihgeo @DarthFK Thank you friend!I tell you update after buy another video-card,i hope to have luck with good video-card,not a fraud person(shop)...
11-14-2019 01:10 AM
DarthFK
Quote: Originally Posted by mihgeo View Post
@DarthFK i buy the video-card to s-h shop in my city, i,am from Romania-U.E. so not only this pieces from video card damaget but i think the video card the sales man put bios from rx with vram 8gb to 4gb because i tested in game and gpu-z view from bios 8gb but utilization only maxim in graphic 4gb(sensor tab-memory used)...in USA is cheap video-card , i stay to view blackfriday or going to another second-hand shop.
i chose second-hand shop because physical person not give me warranty and the prices is aprox .equal...
You should have freight forwarders there, my friend - companies that buy on ebay for you and deliver, for a commission, of course A quick googling and some of my magical skills show that for purchases from US you would pay more taxes, from EU less, or none. Ask around Alternatively you can try it yourself. Or use the SH option, as you suggested.
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