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02-29-2020 02:28 AM
zGunBLADEz
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
You can go to 450 on the uncore with zero worry. and it is pretty common that increasing freq or even tightening timings on ram puts more load on cache... so bump Vcache a bit too. I have to run this 10980XE at 1.185V cache, the 7980XE across the room only needs 1.1Vcache for the same cache freq and higher ram frequency. Crazy - each is it's own challenge.
well tried 450-500 uncore lowered mesh to 30x raised mesh to 1.15 as soon i run gsat with all 17s error galore raised to 20 error free so now i decided that as far as they go.
so now i lowered uncore to 375, lowered my dimm voltage to 1.42mV actually 1.41mV from 1.45mV and now is chewing a ramtest load... next hci and call it a day on that...
02-29-2020 12:25 AM
munternet
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
next time it happens, put the cursor in the active GSAT window, make the window active (top) and hit the carriage return. The report/write cmnd in dos fouled.

If you are not using the "--pause_delay [T=1]" where T= the run time set in the command. try it at the end on the rest of the run command. the "pause/spike" component of GSAT is not needed (at all) for testing a PC. And be sure you are not using more than the available memory. Leave 3-6GB for windows. Doing so will still test all the installed ram, just not concurrently.
edit: based on your LinX and OCCT comment...
If any window or the entire system becomes unresponsive at the end of a test or bench, it is likely V_ovs undershoot. Either increase vcore or decrease LLC compensation (eg, less droop).
Just ran GSAT with stressapptest -W -M 13312 -s 7200 --pause_delay 14400 and it completed nicely. I didn't realize the pause was not necessary.

Do I really need to run super stressful tests to see if I'm windows stable?? Seems to punish the PC when it's done nothing wrong.

On another note , is the server under maintenance? There have been posts moving around and disappearing altogether.
02-28-2020 06:47 PM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by munternet View Post
Wow... how will my post get any attention after that

I have an issue running GSAT on Linux in Windows 10 pro where it stops at the pause and restart lines. The cursor still flashes too.
The PC doesn't freeze and is still completely usable but it just doesn't progress any further.
I can run GSAT all day from a bootable linux USB stick with no errors.
I think LinX does a similar thing if that helps and maybe occt running linpack? Does that sound right?
Anyway, windows never freezes.

Any help appreciated

Edit: It's only tests that have trouble. The PC has had zero issues, even during strenuous sessions of BFV.

Still running 5.2GHz 4200MHz 17-17-17-36-T1 for some months now.
Max CPU temp 83c
Max Dimm temp 38c
next time it happens, put the cursor in the active GSAT window, make the window active (top) and hit the carriage return. The report/write cmnd in dos fouled.

If you are not using the "--pause_delay [T=1]" where T= the run time set in the command. try it at the end on the rest of the run command. the "pause/spike" component of GSAT is not needed (at all) for testing a PC. And be sure you are not using more than the available memory. Leave 3-6GB for windows. Doing so will still test all the installed ram, just not concurrently.
edit: based on your LinX and OCCT comment...
If any window or the entire system becomes unresponsive at the end of a test or bench, it is likely V_ovs undershoot. Either increase vcore or decrease LLC compensation (eg, less droop).
02-28-2020 06:40 PM
truehighroller1
Quote: Originally Posted by munternet View Post
I just ran a few cinebench R20 runs to show levels under stress.
It never reaches that high during normal use.
Coolant temps are 33c as it is very hot this summer. It is 10c cooler in winter

Edit: Running LLC 5 so only look at the vcore under load 1.252v
Also running an AVX offset for summer as it's only used in BFV game transitioning.
I just quickly glimpsed over your post here quoted and the rest on this page. Are you pointing out how your core clocks are spiking and the core voltage are spiking as well? I'm curious because I've noticed that behavior on this new 10900x here on my r6e motherboard and I feel like looking at the screen shots you posted you seem to be having the same issue as me that I've noticed.. If not not, never mind but mine are from what I've witnessed.
02-28-2020 05:44 PM
munternet
Quote: Originally Posted by reachthesky View Post
O I was just curious about the sa/io levels in general for c17/4200 on the gene, I unfortunately don't have any solutions for the issue you are facing or I would do tell.
I just ran a few cinebench R20 runs to show levels under stress.
It never reaches that high during normal use.
Coolant temps are 33c as it is very hot this summer. It is 10c cooler in winter

Edit: Running LLC 5 so only look at the vcore under load 1.252v
Also running an AVX offset for summer as it's only used in BFV game transitioning.
02-28-2020 05:30 PM
reachthesky
Quote: Originally Posted by munternet View Post
I don't think that's the issue.
I can set the bios to defaults and the same thing happens.
Looking around the internet it has been an issue for people for years now and the test devs have been looking into it.
It wasn't doing it before I reverted to W10 1809.
Like I say, it's stable for months now and will pass GSAT without windows running, no trouble at all.
It's looking more like a software issue or something like that. Maybe something to do with ram allocation?? I am only guessing.
The overclock runs "real world" perfect
O I was just curious about the sa/io levels in general for c17/4200 on the gene, I unfortunately don't have any solutions for the issue you are facing or I would do tell.
02-28-2020 05:26 PM
munternet
Quote: Originally Posted by reachthesky View Post
Bahaha. I'll settle for #1 z390 Aorus Master 4 dimm configuration in the world .

How much sa/io you running?
I don't think that's the issue.
I can set the bios to defaults and the same thing happens.
Looking around the internet it has been an issue for people for years now and the test devs have been looking into it.
It wasn't doing it before I reverted to W10 1809.
Like I say, it's stable for months now and will pass GSAT without windows running, no trouble at all.
It's looking more like a software issue or something like that. Maybe something to do with ram allocation?? I am only guessing.
The overclock runs "real world" perfect
02-28-2020 05:05 PM
reachthesky
Quote: Originally Posted by munternet View Post
Wow... how will my post get any attention after that

I have an issue running GSAT on Linux in Windows 10 pro where it stops at the pause and restart lines. The cursor still flashes too.
The PC doesn't freeze and is still completely usable but it just doesn't progress any further.
I can run GSAT all day from a bootable linux USB stick with no errors.
I think LinX does a similar thing if that helps and maybe occt running linpack? Does that sound right?
Anyway, windows never freezes.

Any help appreciated

Edit: It's only tests that have trouble. The PC has had zero issues, even during strenuous sessions of BFV.

Still running 5.2GHz 4200MHz 17-17-17-36-T1 for some months now.
Max CPU temp 83c
Max Dimm temp 38c
Bahaha. I'll settle for #1 z390 Aorus Master 4 dimm configuration in the world , I am the Master of masters.

How much sa/io you running?
02-28-2020 04:32 PM
munternet
Quote: Originally Posted by Zemach View Post
CPU 5Ghz cache 5Ghz Ram 5Ghz CL18 18 18 36 1.56v memtest200%
Wow... how will my post get any attention after that

I have an issue running GSAT on Linux in Windows 10 pro where it stops at the pause and restart lines. The cursor still flashes too.
The PC doesn't freeze and is still completely usable but it just doesn't progress any further.
I can run GSAT all day from a bootable linux USB stick with no errors.
I think LinX does a similar thing if that helps and maybe occt running linpack? Does that sound right?
Anyway, windows never freezes.

Any help appreciated

Edit: It's only tests that have trouble. The PC has had zero issues, even during strenuous sessions of BFV.

Still running 5.2GHz 4200MHz 17-17-17-36-T1 for some months now.
Max CPU temp 83c
Max Dimm temp 38c
02-28-2020 03:05 PM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by Zemach View Post
CPU 5Ghz cache 5Ghz Ram 5Ghz CL18 18 18 36 1.56v memtest200%
Crazy stuff with that Apex XI. Excellent cpu IMC too!
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