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03-28-2020 11:24 PM
ManniX-ITA
Quote: Originally Posted by Dannyz View Post
Thanks for the reply, I was using F10 on my aorus master but found for some reason it was preventing my 3900X to boost properly. Whereas with with F7B ABBA the 3900X boosts correctly in lightly threaded workloads (4.5-4.6GHz) and in more heavier applications the all-core boost is still fairly high(4.2-4.4GHz). I haven't tried F11 or the new F12 so I'll try those out. I'll try tinkering around with the VDDG and VDDP values, I believe I did raise them to a level that might be a bit to high. I'll report back with some adjustment. I didn't think I'd need to set and LLC options for a stock CPU but I'll try that as well.
Understand, have seen many people having a better boost with the previous AGESA.
At the beginning I tried to run with stock settings and only PBO Auto but it did work reliably (although with quite bad performances) only with memory at 2133 MHz.
With XMP enabled for 3600 MHz there was no way to avoid crashes, reboots, USB stuttering, bios resets, etc...

Now I have this profile settings I migrate each time to the new BIOS versions and it works really well for IF 1800/1900 and also the PBO bug.
In some cases, you need a lot of tinkering to make it work as expected.
03-28-2020 03:39 PM
Dannyz
Quote: Originally Posted by ManniX-ITA View Post
I know very well the problem... it's the VDDP/VDDG and SoC voltage with the right LLC and Current Protection.

First, I'd suggest to use bios F10/F11 at least. I'm using F12a with very good results.

You should try with VDDP 900 and VDDG 950; anything higher than that for me sooner or later will result in the random reboot as you described.

To avoid random reboots with IF at 1900 MHz on my 3800x I had to set:

VDDP 900
VDDG 950
CPU Vcore LLC Medium
Vcore SOC LLC Low
CPU Vcore Current Protection Medium
VCORE SOC Voltage Normal
Dynamic VCORE SOC +0.025V
CPU VDD18 1.840V

Screenshots below.

You have to find the right values for your CPU, especially since it's a 3900x.
But it's a starting point at least.



Thanks for the reply, I was using F10 on my aorus master but found for some reason it was preventing my 3900X to boost properly. Whereas with with F7B ABBA the 3900X boosts correctly in lightly threaded workloads (4.5-4.6GHz) and in more heavier applications the all-core boost is still fairly high(4.2-4.4GHz). I haven't tried F11 or the new F12 so I'll try those out. I'll try tinkering around with the VDDG and VDDP values, I believe I did raise them to a level that might be a bit to high. I'll report back with some adjustment. I didn't think I'd need to set and LLC options for a stock CPU but I'll try that as well.
03-28-2020 02:15 PM
ManniX-ITA
Quote: Originally Posted by Dannyz View Post
Hey guys,

Wanted to get some help in regards to these random restarts I've been having. I've done quite a bit of trouble shooting on my end here to mitigate the issue and I believe I have reduced the crashes drastically but they still occur. It doesn't result in a bluescreen, just a restart like someone pressed the reset button on my case and only results in a critical level event in Event Viewer known as Event 41 but doesn't tell me exactly what causes the issue. I thought it may have been my ram and I ran HCI for a few hours and it resulted in an error. Last month I had spent like 2 days working with ram and I believe I had gotten it stable as I ran Prime95 Blend for 12 hours, HCI for 13 Hours, and Karhu for 15 Hours, without any error. My CPU is running at Stock as I found there wasn't a huge increase in performance using PBO+AutoOC over stock but resulted in like 5-10C higher temps. After I had tuned my ram I didn't get any crashes but I decided to transcode and compress some videos using handbraked yesterday, and I was also playing some modern warfare which then resulted in a crash. I later decided I would leave handbrake overnight and it restarted with the same error again.
...
I know very well the problem... it's the VDDP/VDDG and SoC voltage with the right LLC and Current Protection.

First, I'd suggest to use bios F10/F11 at least. I'm using F12a with very good results.

You should try with VDDP 900 and VDDG 950; anything higher than that for me sooner or later will result in the random reboot as you described.

To avoid random reboots with IF at 1900 MHz on my 3800x I had to set:

VDDP 900
VDDG 950
CPU Vcore LLC Medium
Vcore SOC LLC Low
CPU Vcore Current Protection Medium
VCORE SOC Voltage Normal
Dynamic VCORE SOC +0.025V
CPU VDD18 1.840V

Screenshots below.

You have to find the right values for your CPU, especially since it's a 3900x.
But it's a starting point at least.
03-28-2020 11:32 AM
Dannyz
Experience Random Crashes and with Handbrake EVENT 41 Kernal Power

Hey guys,

Wanted to get some help in regards to these random restarts I've been having. I've done quite a bit of trouble shooting on my end here to mitigate the issue and I believe I have reduced the crashes drastically but they still occur. It doesn't result in a bluescreen, just a restart like someone pressed the reset button on my case and only results in a critical level event in Event Viewer known as Event 41 but doesn't tell me exactly what causes the issue. I thought it may have been my ram and I ran HCI for a few hours and it resulted in an error. Last month I had spent like 2 days working with ram and I believe I had gotten it stable as I ran Prime95 Blend for 12 hours, HCI for 13 Hours, and Karhu for 15 Hours, without any error. My CPU is running at Stock as I found there wasn't a huge increase in performance using PBO+AutoOC over stock but resulted in like 5-10C higher temps. After I had tuned my ram I didn't get any crashes but I decided to transcode and compress some videos using handbraked yesterday, and I was also playing some modern warfare which then resulted in a crash. I later decided I would leave handbrake overnight and it restarted with the same error again.

Here is the error message

- System

- Provider


[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power


[ Guid] {331c3b3a-2005-44c2-ac5e-77220c37d6b4}



EventID 41


Version 6


Level 1


Task 63


Opcode 0


Keywords 0x8000400000000002

- TimeCreated


[ SystemTime] 2020-03-28T17:21:46.802864800Z



EventRecordID 76455


Correlation

- Execution


[ ProcessID] 4


[ ThreadID] 8



Channel System


- EventData

BugcheckCode 0

BugcheckParameter1 0x0

BugcheckParameter2 0x0

BugcheckParameter3 0x0

BugcheckParameter4 0x0

SleepInProgress 0

PowerButtonTimestamp 0

BootAppStatus 0

Checkpoint 0

ConnectedStandbyInProgress false

SystemSleepTransitionsToOn 0

CsEntryScenarioInstanceId 0

BugcheckInfoFromEFI false Here

CheckpointStatus 0


Here are my System SPECS

CPU: R9 3900X STOCK
Cooler: NH-D15
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
Bios: F7B (ABBA)
RAM: G skill Trident Z 3600C15 Running at 3666CL14 (XMP is OFF)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 XC Gaming
Case: Corsair Air 740
PSU: EVGA 750G2
03-28-2020 08:34 AM
pschorr1123
Quote: Originally Posted by egandt View Post
I have a 6TB Ironwolf drive, it is in a USB3.0 enclosure and it is working fine, I even did a full format (not quick, to surface test), it works and MD5's for files written match the source, but the same drive attached to the MB does not, I've tried 2 different power connections and 2 different SATA cables I always get the same error IO failure. Now I've had my share of bad drives even these (I have about 16 in total), yet I've never seen one not work on a SATA cable, but work fine in an enclosure. In fact I have 2 of these MB's and the other one has teh same drive attached no issues, only this drive seems to have problems.

Normally I'd simply mail it in but given the current mess, I'm attempting to figure out why a drive which is good and works in an enclosure can not when attached directly to the MB?

Thanks,
ERIC
This probably isn't relevant to your situation but when I was researching shucking USB drives a while back there were some USB drives that required a sata pin to be covered by electrical tape to address 3.3V Pin Issue in White Label Disks. If you don't have one of these white label drives then I would test the actual Sata ports on the motherboard with a known working drive.

I have also seen some usb drives now come with the with the controller soldered directly on the hard drive which are entirely usb eliminating the sata connection.

Is there any chance of some type of encryption going on that the drive needs the USB enclosure to function properly?
03-28-2020 08:29 AM
bigcid10
Quote: Originally Posted by MeerMusik View Post
Hi. Very strange thing I ran into:

When DISABLING Core Performance Boost, the Cores are staying at 3500 MHz flat and are not idling down. This is with Beta Bios F12E. I have not tried this with any other Bios Version. Has anyone seen a similar Behavior on any Bios Version before? I mean, Core Performance Boost is supposed to, well, boost them, not from preventing the Cores from Idling down. Or did I miss something?

And yes, Cool and Quiet etc. are Enabled.
Thanks
clock speed may look like their staying at 3500 and not dropping but
if you look at core efective speed it will still show that it fluctuates up and down
03-28-2020 08:26 AM
bigcid10
Quote: Originally Posted by egandt View Post
I have a 6TB Ironwolf drive, it is in a USB3.0 enclosure and it is working fine, I even did a full format (not quick, to surface test), it works and MD5's for files written match the source, but the same drive attached to the MB does not, I've tried 2 different power connections and 2 different SATA cables I always get the same error IO failure. Now I've had my share of bad drives even these (I have about 16 in total), yet I've never seen one not work on a SATA cable, but work fine in an enclosure. In fact I have 2 of these MB's and the other one has teh same drive attached no issues, only this drive seems to have problems.

Normally I'd simply mail it in but given the current mess, I'm attempting to figure out why a drive which is good and works in an enclosure can not when attached directly to the MB?

Thanks,
ERIC
Is your baseclock 100MHz ?
it needs to be at 100MHz or the sata bus will freak out and drives disappear
03-28-2020 07:32 AM
egandt
6TB Ironwolf, fails when connected to MB, but works from USB drive enclosure

I have a 6TB Ironwolf drive, it is in a USB3.0 enclosure and it is working fine, I even did a full format (not quick, to surface test), it works and MD5's for files written match the source, but the same drive attached to the MB does not, I've tried 2 different power connections and 2 different SATA cables I always get the same error IO failure. Now I've had my share of bad drives even these (I have about 16 in total), yet I've never seen one not work on a SATA cable, but work fine in an enclosure. In fact I have 2 of these MB's and the other one has teh same drive attached no issues, only this drive seems to have problems.

Normally I'd simply mail it in but given the current mess, I'm attempting to figure out why a drive which is good and works in an enclosure can not when attached directly to the MB?

Thanks,
ERIC
03-27-2020 11:25 PM
dansi
Quote: Originally Posted by bl1tzk1213g View Post
I have x570i and 3950x. How do you set up the best PBO + undervolt?
Try my suggestions here

https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-a...0-part-ii.html
03-27-2020 10:06 PM
bl1tzk1213g I have x570i and 3950x. How do you set up the best PBO + undervolt?
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