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11-21-2019 03:15 PM
delerious
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnn999 View Post
It is only when it's stormy out or super windy but it's just annoying. I could live with it during a complete outage which don't happen that often. The $200 ones really aren't that bad though I was scared a good one would be $500+. Maybe I should get one for my PC's and one for my Tv/Xbox/Ps4 aswell. Maybe I will get one of those cheaper things that plug into the wall to see how much power it is all drawing aswell.

It looks like I have 9 things to plug in but they don't all really need to be on a UPS so that should work. I really only care about my expensive monitor and gaming rig. The rest isn't such a big deal but obviously I want to protect them. That cyberpower one is what I was looking at before I made this post aswell but I will look at the APC just to keep an open mind on it.
I have 3 of the Cyberpower CP1500PFCLCD units, think I paid $200 max (a little cheaper on sale). My $500 UPS is an online unit (OL1500RTXL2UN). Most of the units I've seen have their outlets split between surge only and surge+battery. Make sure you have enough surge+battery for your components - usually computer and monitor for me with modem, router, and small things (clock, charger, Pi, etc) if available.

I was always told not to plug a surge protector into a UPS. A laser printer is definitely a no go. If your wiring is good, you could be suffering from brown outs - voltage is dropping too low and that's what causes your computer to shut down, IMO. The CP1500PFCLCD regulates low voltage (brownouts) and high voltage (spikes). Other manufacturers have similar units. You can go bigger than you need with a UPS to get extra runtime. Kill-A-Watt is what most people use to check wall power.
11-12-2019 05:28 PM
Johnn999 It is only when it's stormy out or super windy but it's just annoying. I could live with it during a complete outage which don't happen that often. The $200 ones really aren't that bad though I was scared a good one would be $500+. Maybe I should get one for my PC's and one for my Tv/Xbox/Ps4 aswell. Maybe I will get one of those cheaper things that plug into the wall to see how much power it is all drawing aswell.

It looks like I have 9 things to plug in but they don't all really need to be on a UPS so that should work. I really only care about my expensive monitor and gaming rig. The rest isn't such a big deal but obviously I want to protect them. That cyberpower one is what I was looking at before I made this post aswell but I will look at the APC just to keep an open mind on it.
11-12-2019 11:33 AM
ThrashZone
Quote: Originally Posted by ACleverName View Post
CP1500PFCLCD hands down, had it for years. It does not have any BS square sine waves either that fried my last PSU.
Hi,
They are either simulated sine wave or sine wave
BS or not all cheapo's are simulated sine wave.
11-12-2019 10:10 AM
deafboy I've always used APC UPS units for my servers but currently use a CyberPower UPS unit for my gaming rig, does that job just fine but I still lean toward APC
11-12-2019 09:33 AM
ozlay If you just want a surge protector. Look at isobar ultra's.
11-12-2019 09:31 AM
ACleverName CP1500PFCLCD hands down, had it for years. It does not have any BS square sine waves either that fried my last PSU.
11-12-2019 09:11 AM
Fluxmaven UPS would definitely be a good idea. I wouldn't plug your loaded power strip into the UPS. At the very least, plug your PCs into separate outlets on the UPS since they draw the most power.

I personally own a CP1500PFCLCD (which is the one recommended in that first linked article.) I got it for the pure sine, and the capacity, since I have a lot of power hungry equipment.

I don't really have any budget recommendations. A lot of the lower end stuff isn't very good. I used to be a big APC fan, but they are starting to make units that don't have a battery access door to allow you to easily swap out the battery once it goes bad. Have had some mixed results with Tripp Lite. Cyberpower overall has been good in my experience.

The cheaper simulated sine wave units suck. At work we have ~160 workstations. Each one has a small UPS. When we get weird power flickers, some of the PCs still shut off.

Simulated sine wave output form produces a zero-output state during the phase change cycle resulting in a power "gap". This gap may cause power interruption for equipment with Active PFC power supplies when switching from AC power output to simulated sine wave output (battery mode).

Basically, when you switch to battery mode on a simulated sine UPS with a active PFC power supply (most modern computers have this), the computer may still turn off.

So I would recommend getting a pure sine unit. If you don't want to splurge for a larger unit, get one big enough for your PCs and networking equipment. The printer, speakers, peripherals, etc. can just stay on a separate surge protector since they come right back up anyway.
11-12-2019 07:06 AM
ThrashZone
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnn999 View Post
So I couldn't just plug my power strip surge protector thing into said UPS and call it a day? I don't really have much of an idea how much power my stuff draws. What really gets me is one computer shuts off the other stays on when the lights would dim. Unfortunately it is my gaming rig that shuts off! Literally all I care about is it staying on like 60 seconds. That is enough for me in the case of a full power outage. But my main concern is just the lights dimming is enough to shut off the computer so I figured UPS would solve that. Like the power is partially going out? Idk
Hi,
Probably have too much stuff on the same circuit if lights are dimming a lot.
You need to figure out what all is connected on the wall outlet like light switches for other rooms/.....

Backup battery will output a steady current but if it's coming on all the time you do need to figure out why eventually
Might have to move computer to a better power plug source or disconnect what other items are plugged into the same circuit then all you have to deal with is mother nature

Sine wave not simulated all the cheap ones are simulated sine wave and also some expensive ones so price does not insure sine wave = ask seller.
I have one of these compared to what computers cost it's well worth it
https://www.microcenter.com/product/...oax-protection

APC also but like I said 2 year instore warranty minimum if it goes out you get a free one
https://www.microcenter.com/product/...on,-10-outlets
11-12-2019 03:03 AM
Redwoodz https://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-uni...es-ups-for-pc/

"Besides your gaming PC, UPS can extend their protections to anything that's plugged into them, including the best gaming monitor or other electronics. They may not necessarily be at the top of anyone's list when shopping for accessories for their next extreme gaming PC build, but this relatively small investment can pay big dividends. Their robust nature means you'll likely only ever have to buy a single one, and the versatility of the protection they offer means that you don't even need a gaming PC to enjoy the benefits.

Put simply, UPS' are basically just large car batteries strapped to surge protectors. They charge via your wall outlet and switch to battery power in the event of a catastrophic power loss. This is meant to keep your PC and other appliances running long enough for you to save whatever you were doing and shut things down properly, not to wrap up that Destiny 2 raid. There are few things you can buy for your rig that'll help protect against acts of god, but a good uninterruptible power supply will do just that."
11-12-2019 02:56 AM
Johnn999
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Depends on budget but only pure sine wave is worth messing with
APC/ cyber power are pretty good or anything with pure sine wave basically all it has to do is stay on for a 10 minutes so even a 600w is okay
I'd just leave pc and monitor on it everything else just on surge protection

Micro center has some or amazon/...
I usually get at least two year instore warranty at micro center in case one dies out of the blue and I don't have to mail rma it.
So I couldn't just plug my power strip surge protector thing into said UPS and call it a day? I don't really have much of an idea how much power my stuff draws. What really gets me is one computer shuts off the other stays on when the lights would dim. Unfortunately it is my gaming rig that shuts off! Literally all I care about is it staying on like 60 seconds. That is enough for me in the case of a full power outage. But my main concern is just the lights dimming is enough to shut off the computer so I figured UPS would solve that. Like the power is partially going out? Idk
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