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12-14-2019 11:51 AM
darkarn
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Components have built in sensors. All this thermometer is for is montoring air temp into cooler vs air temp in room near case intake vents. We want case to flow air so air temp into coolers (CPU & GPU) is no more than 5c warmer than around case.

There is no need to monitor temperature 'trend; because once case and cooler fans' curves are set they will automatically speed up as needed to cool working compnents, then slow down when components idle.

I hear there is some unrest there. Hope you don't get caught up in it.

I got myself a model that monitors another three more locations wirelessly (see: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ) as I am thinking of reusing this for other projects after this airflow project, just not sure if this is suitable though since the sensors are bigger than expected.



Thanks for your concern too, thankfully Singapore is quite peaceful as we are really far away from the unrests as we are a completely different country in the first place
11-28-2019 11:42 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by darkarn View Post
Ah I see, I thought I am supposed to measure the components and not the airflow, silly me


Thanks! I will keep looking for a decently cheap thermometer like what you linked so far, preferably with a min/max feature so that I can see the trend over a day. A pity that the first link won't ship to Singapore since it is from Singapore actually
Components have built in sensors. All this thermometer is for is montoring air temp into cooler vs air temp in room near case intake vents. We want case to flow air so air temp into coolers (CPU & GPU) is no more than 5c warmer than around case.

There is no need to monitor temperature 'trend; because once case and cooler fans' curves are set they will automatically speed up as needed to cool working compnents, then slow down when components idle.

I hear there is some unrest there. Hope you don't get caught up in it.
11-28-2019 10:28 AM
darkarn
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Why on Earth would you need thermometer that measures above 35c? That's half of 70c range thermometer and still hotter than room or air temp into or anywhere inside of case .. about 3 times as hot as airflow inside of case set up properly.
Probe lead can run through side or back. Once you get airflow setup the thermometer really has no function. Air temps cycling with load will vary about the same. Obviously a little warmer in summer than winter.

Don't worry about detachable probes or any other frills. Cheapest indoor/outdoor wired probe thermometer does the job as well as expensive ones. Buy a cheap one off ebay from China.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-Indoo...MAAOSwZQRYWjDF
When it dies (I have one over 10 years old) just buy another.

Even wireless are not expensive:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indoor-Ou...wAAOSwWZVd08y2

Ah I see, I thought I am supposed to measure the components and not the airflow, silly me


Thanks! I will keep looking for a decently cheap thermometer like what you linked so far, preferably with a min/max feature so that I can see the trend over a day. A pity that the first link won't ship to Singapore since it is from Singapore actually
11-28-2019 04:06 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by darkarn View Post
I managed to get to the electronics shops recently to find the thermometers, they cost about 20 to 40 SGD each though but at least I won't need to worry about shipping issues especially since they contain LCD screens



Meanwhile, just to confirm:
1. Almost all thermometers I see measure up to 70 degrees Celsius. Will these be enough or should I try harder to find those that can measure up to 110 degrees Celsius?
2. Also, it seems that I have to choose between having a min/max function and measuring up to 110 degrees Celsius; there is no thermometer that can do both. Which one will be more important?
3. I will be placing the thermometer outside of the PC (e.g. on my desk or even pasting it to the front of the PC). How do I route the thermal probe from it to the inside of the PC?
4. Are there thermometer with detachable thermal probes just in case the cable breaks?

Thanks again guys!
Why on Earth would you need thermometer that measures above 35c? That's half of 70c range thermometer and still hotter than room or air temp into or anywhere inside of case .. about 3 times as hot as airflow inside of case set up properly.
Probe lead can run through side or back. Once you get airflow setup the thermometer really has no function. Air temps cycling with load will vary about the same. Obviously a little warmer in summer than winter.

Don't worry about detachable probes or any other frills. Cheapest indoor/outdoor wired probe thermometer does the job as well as expensive ones. Buy a cheap one off ebay from China.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-Indoo...MAAOSwZQRYWjDF
When it dies (I have one over 10 years old) just buy another.

Even wireless are not expensive:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Indoor-Ou...wAAOSwWZVd08y2
11-27-2019 10:32 PM
darkarn I managed to get to the electronics shops recently to find the thermometers, they cost about 20 to 40 SGD each though but at least I won't need to worry about shipping issues especially since they contain LCD screens



Meanwhile, just to confirm:
1. Almost all thermometers I see measure up to 70 degrees Celsius. Will these be enough or should I try harder to find those that can measure up to 110 degrees Celsius?
2. Also, it seems that I have to choose between having a min/max function and measuring up to 110 degrees Celsius; there is no thermometer that can do both. Which one will be more important?
3. I will be placing the thermometer outside of the PC (e.g. on my desk or even pasting it to the front of the PC). How do I route the thermal probe from it to the inside of the PC?
4. Are there thermometer with detachable thermal probes just in case the cable breaks?


Thanks again guys!
11-27-2019 10:22 PM
darkarn Sorry guys, it is only very recently that I have time to look into these


Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
uhh... idk about all that...

I'd say get one of the cheep digital fish tank thermos over an outdoor.

though I guess having a classic mercury to look at would be cool? everyone uses enough LEDs now where visibility wouldn't be an issue.

not to mention genuine PC temp probes are like $10 per 10 pack, and accepted by most motherboards.

Thanks, I am able to get those digital fish tank thermometers locally but they cost a lot more than expected. The PC temp probes will be a challenge though


Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Try searching for:
. . "wired wired indoor/outdoor thermometer"
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR1.T RC0.A0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=wired+wired+indoor%2Foutdoor+t hermometer&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw =digital+indoor+%2F+outdoor+thermometer


on ebay and/or Amazon.

If you only want single temp remote sensor themometer to monitor temp in case search for:
. . "fridge thermometer"
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR3.T RC0.A0.H0.TRS1&_nkw=fridge+thermometer&_sacat=0&LH _TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=wired+wired+indoor%2F outdoor+thermometer
or
. . "LCD fridge thermometer"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-Digital-...a273ded8068ab1

or
. . "aquarium / terreriam thermometer"
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=aquarium+ %2F+terreriam+thermometer&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0& _osacat=0&_odkw=fridge+thermometer

Look for something small and compact.

I like having both room and cooler intakes monitored beause then it's easy to see the difference.

The little LCD fridge / freezer / aquarium models have temp range of -50c to 110c and are 48x28x1.5mm. Small and thin enough to mount onto case with double stick tape or bluetack.

I don't think Ryzen Master and HWiNFO64 and HWiNFO64 can monitor air temp into cooler .. because they have no provision for remote sensors.

Thanks for the links, I am looking at them now!


Quote: Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

Thanks! This looks cool and can be used at darker environments too since my PC has to be placed under my desk, will consider


Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
Any cheap thermostat will do but no need to spend money on that, temp probes that plug into you MB are just as good if not more accurate.
Only reason to buy a LCD one is if you want to read the temps away from the PC, otherwise just buy some probes and plug them into the MB

Thanks, though I really need those with LCD to be able to read the temps away from the PC


Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Assuming motherboard user has is capable of using probes and probes cost less than cheap indoor/outdoor digital thermometers.

I am using an ASUS X470 Strix F Gaming motherboard. I think it can use probes but seems to me cheap thermometers can do the job better with easier setup and also more versatile
11-15-2019 11:28 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
Any cheap thermostat will do but no need to spend money on that, temp probes that plug into you MB are just as good if not more accurate.
Only reason to buy a LCD one is if you want to read the temps away from the PC, otherwise just buy some probes and plug them into the MB
Assuming motherboard user has is capable of using probes and probes cost less than cheap indoor/outdoor digital thermometers.
11-15-2019 10:02 AM
Shawnb99 Any cheap thermostat will do but no need to spend money on that, temp probes that plug into you MB are just as good if not more accurate.
Only reason to buy a LCD one is if you want to read the temps away from the PC, otherwise just buy some probes and plug them into the MB
11-15-2019 09:43 AM
cssorkinman
Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I don't connect sensor to internal monitor so use self-contained units. Mine are basic digital indoor / outdoor with wired probe that cost less than a fiver on eBay.
Certainly a good option - amazing that such a thing can be produced/sold so economically.

Kinda weird, when I wrote my reply , your previous post was not there . Trying a new browser , maybe that had something to do with it.
11-15-2019 09:30 AM
doyll
Quote: Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post
It was the one in my purchase history - It was a few years back already so I'm a little fuzzy on why I went with that particular one but I had to make it work with an old fan controller/temp readout and I know that the way it was cabled, it would work better than others.

Just meant to be an example.

What's your suggestion?
I don't connect sensor to internal monitor so use self-contained units. Mine are basic digital indoor / outdoor with wired probe that cost less than a fiver on eBay.
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