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02-21-2020 01:02 AM
tyezh
Quote: Originally Posted by Chimeracaust View Post
Is this the best board to get in the 250$ or less range? I am about to pull the trigger, to pair with a 3800x I was gifted, curious if this is the right option. Also interested in ram recommendations, going for 32gb.
I would argue, yes, its a great board and should be future ready for the zen 3 coming later this year. Zen 3 will be the last AM4 socket, which will also have 40% (or is that 60%) less heat and power usage than the zen 2; so in the long run you can't go wrong, VRM should be overkill for an overclocked Zen 3 4950x 16 core cpu.

Its only competition is the Aorus Elite, and that has a slightly inferior VRM and cooling; the only board that might outdo it will be the Tomahawk x570, coming out between now and March.

As for ram, I recommend G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) INTEL Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GVKC; that is what I'm using.

Its really the Trident Z Neo RGB F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC for Ryzen but without RGB & $35-$45 dollars less.



First available in October 2019. Market value is $144.99. Hynix D-die (Davinci). Says for "intel" but works perfect with Ryzen motherboards. I'm running stock/auto XMP timings 16-19-19-39 at 3800 mhz O/C, 1:1 1900 infinity fabric, 67.9 latency @ 1.37500 volts (I can reduce the voltage further), with my Ryzen 3600. 3733-3800 is the sweet spot on Ryzen, any further is pointless. Almost as good as the $500+ B die 32 GB kits. B-die gets you 16-16-16, rather than 16-19-19. Marginal at best. 16 gigs of B die goes for $250. Is it worth the three extra nano seconds and 16 gigs less ram, for $100 more dollars? Here we have 32 gigs of very high quality Hynix ram. With two spare slots, I can later upgrade to 64 in 5-10 years if I like. Hynix protects against Rowhammer vulnerability better than any other brand as far as studies have shown. Best gigabyte and performance per dollar value on the market. They are rising the price sometimes up to $250 on these (or more) for obvious reasons. I bought it at $144.99, it was more than worth every penny, and at the time of this post you can find it hovering around $159.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z45XB3G?psc=1

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-...quicklink=true
02-21-2020 12:28 AM
tyezh OC VRM sweet spots I have found with Ryzen 3600 and this board: Dropping SOC voltage from 1.0 to 0.95 drops CPU temps by 10-15 degrees, possibly up to 17 degrees. (default soc voltage is 1.1) Anything under 0.96875 @ 4.125 ghz was unstable for me; but there was a 3-4 degree difference between 0.95 and 0.96875

I've got my 3600 running perfectly stable at 4,125, stock cooler, 1.31875v / 0.96875 Socket, with a CPU Load line calibration set to 5;

Under normal/idle casual conditions voltage hovers between 1.344-1.352, for more snappy performance. Under heavy load it drops to 1.32-1.328

If you want to seriously undervolt, using a high LLC is extremely useful; if you are going to overvolt, you want a lower llc.

Some numbers to consider playing with:

1.3500v @ 0.95 soc, Auto LLC (load line calibration) VDDR SOC LLC auto. Stable temps and voltage in OCCT.
1.3125v @ 0.95 soc, 5 CPU LLC (important), VDDR SOC LLC auto. most stable temps and voltage over all.
1.31875v @ 0.96875 5 CPU LLC (this is what I use, its highly undervolted and running perfectly stable in windows/gaming/encoding for a month. A little touchy after 20 minutes OCCT but thats perfectly fine; passed 1 hour in linpack.
02-21-2020 12:22 AM
tyezh
Quote: Originally Posted by waltdanger View Post
Anyone else have an extremely laggy BIOS? The mouse cursor is almost unusable, feels like it is running at 3fps. Even keystrokes get 'missed' and I have to be very careful when typing in values. Running latest BIOS.
I have the same ram & 3600 non x, not really, its not super fast, feels maybe 13-18 fps and lags but its tolerable.
02-19-2020 09:51 PM
waltdanger Anyone else have an extremely laggy BIOS? The mouse cursor is almost unusable, feels like it is running at 3fps. Even keystrokes get 'missed' and I have to be very careful when typing in values. Running latest BIOS.


Quote: Originally Posted by M3TAl View Post
Is it normal to fail TPU Memtest64 with a Windows program error? Was on loop 23 when a Windows error popped up stating "the memory could not be written". Going to try bootable Memtest86 next. Wondering is this RAM is bad. I'm completely new to Ryzen, maybe a voltage or two needs boosting? Figured everything would just work with no adjusting considering the RAM is on the QVL and Ryzen 3000 is supposed to like 3600MHz RAM.

Running a 3600x on this board with G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3600C16D-32GVKC on an open air test bench. Everything is bonestock except loading DOCP profile. BIOS is still on 1201 which it shipped with.

Edit: it passed Passmark's free Memtest86 no errors, hmmm.

Did you put the RAM in Slots 2 & 4 (counting away from CPU)? For dual sticks you are supposed to use those. I have the same exact RAM and had problems until I found out about that. Good RAM btw, Hynix DJR and mine overclock pretty well considering how cheap they are.
02-18-2020 07:19 PM
timezone12 Hi All
Love this board I think it's great but I have a problem with the bios. I have 2 external hard drives 1 8tb wd store and 1 4tb seagate now here is the strange problem, without the usb drives plugged in the computer cold boot takes up to 5 to 15 seconds to get into windows. With the drives in it takes up to 55 to 65 seconds. Has anyone ever seen this before? Drives are formatted in gpt. Also same thing happens on my asus b450 as well. Thanks
02-18-2020 02:48 PM
Gunderman456 I just watched a builzoid video :

and he suggests PBO 300-230-230-x4 (on a Gigabyte board but he relayed that they all work the same).

Anyone has had good success with the Asus Tuff board and what PBO numbers are you using??
02-13-2020 05:13 PM
M3TAl Is it normal to fail TPU Memtest64 with a Windows program error? Was on loop 23 when a Windows error popped up stating "the memory could not be written". Going to try bootable Memtest86 next. Wondering is this RAM is bad. I'm completely new to Ryzen, maybe a voltage or two needs boosting? Figured everything would just work with no adjusting considering the RAM is on the QVL and Ryzen 3000 is supposed to like 3600MHz RAM.

Running a 3600x on this board with G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3600C16D-32GVKC on an open air test bench. Everything is bonestock except loading DOCP profile. BIOS is still on 1201 which it shipped with.

Edit: it passed Passmark's free Memtest86 no errors, hmmm.

02-13-2020 02:03 PM
Gunderman456 This mobo or the Gygabite one in the same price range.

For RAM I got the G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 16-19-19-39 CAS Latency 16 1.35V and they are solid with the Asus board.
02-13-2020 12:18 PM
Chimeracaust Is this the best board to get in the 250$ or less range? I am about to pull the trigger, to pair with a 3800x I was gifted, curious if this is the right option. Also interested in ram recommendations, going for 32gb.
02-09-2020 06:48 PM
Schmuckley
Quote: Originally Posted by M3TAl View Post
Never reset CMOS with screw drivers? Did it all the time in the AM3/+ days. The TUF manual even says to use a screwdriver haha!
Always been scared to. I fried a mobo by shorting the wrong pins a long time ago.

Back in the Socket 5 days.
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