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04-04-2020 09:05 AM
S197Mach1
Quote: Originally Posted by coccosoids View Post
Incoming: stupid question.
So... I've changed motherboards and installed all the drivers that come with it. And one of the utilities that it installed is Intel Turbo Boost Max Tech. 3. My question is: if I overclock do I need this installed? Is it relevant in any way?
Windows has native support for it now:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...rocessors.html

However in bios:
MFC Mode set to OS Native Support, allows windows to control ITB3
MFC Mode set to Override will then allow you to install the ITB3 software to control ITB3.

If its set to OS Native Support then you wont be able to install the software because the hardware device is hidden/disabled and the install software wont see it it.
04-04-2020 08:18 AM
ThrashZone
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
If you mean it will self (re)install - yeah, that's why I don't uninstall it. Besides, should there be any need to check the rig out at full defaults, if ITB is not installed no cpu core can reach the max stock boost frequency. Ya also need to pay attention to OS-Native vs MFC Override for ITBs to work at all.
Hi,
Close enough

At first I just stuck with bios using by core usage and entered my own turbo multiplier
Kind of a weird interface
10 core processor it only showed 8 entries
So I just entered say 4.8 in the top 4 entries left the rest at auto or added my own minimum I don't think that ever worked minimum was always 1200 mhz. so went back to leaving the last four as auto.
But that worked okay saved some heat on 7900x still with pigeon poop inside.
04-04-2020 07:54 AM
Jpmboy
Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Yeah it seems ITB-3 comes up about every 2-3 weeks worse than getting the clap
If you mean it will self (re)install - yeah, that's why I don't uninstall it. Besides, should there be any need to check the rig out at full defaults, if ITB is not installed no cpu core can reach the max stock boost frequency. Ya also need to pay attention to OS-Native vs MFC Override for ITBs to work at all.
04-04-2020 07:44 AM
ThrashZone Hi,
Yeah it seems ITB-3 comes up about every 2-3 weeks worse than getting the clap
04-04-2020 07:19 AM
tistou77 I always disable it, so it suits me not to install (I have same option with 2002 and 3006 modded bios)
I will see with the Encore when it is "mounted"
04-04-2020 06:57 AM
Jpmboy You really do not want IT2, 3 or IVTB active if overclocking. They only work with Default settings. Some early bios versions cannot support later versions of ITB because the "device" is not defined in that bios version. ITB has been available on all bios versions I flashed to on my APEX VI, and on the 2 bios versions I have for the R6EO. In both cases I deactivate it (I do not uninstall it) as posted earlier.
In some cases, ITB cannot install to any system that is not running at full default settings, including CSM.
04-04-2020 12:43 AM
tistou77
Quote: Originally Posted by coccosoids View Post
Incoming: stupid question.
So... I've changed motherboards and installed all the drivers that come with it. And one of the utilities that it installed is Intel Turbo Boost Max Tech. 3. My question is: if I overclock do I need this installed? Is it relevant in any way?
Since switching to bios 3006 (R6E), I am no longer bothered with this ITB, it is no longer present on my PC
And if I still try to install it, I have a message that says "this component is not present"

Attachment 336880

If I go back to 2002 bios, it installs without problem
04-03-2020 11:15 AM
D-EJ915
Quote: Originally Posted by coccosoids View Post
Apparently the X299 Creator does not support Speed Shift. So it's Speed Step or nothing?
MSI's options for it are limited compared to other boards and is really lacking there since you can't pick what you want you either get auto or disabled, I run my creation at fixed speed/disabled.
04-03-2020 03:23 AM
ThrashZone Hi,
You're referring to a msi board "X299 Creator" is what a quick search came up with but your system spec's shows a gigabyte board

Either one giga/ msi you'd have to see what bios option are offered he's an asus dude
04-03-2020 03:08 AM
coccosoids
Quote: Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post
Yeah - Speedshift works with sky-X and coffee-X on win 10 (>1809). INtel Turbo Boost, or Intel "Thermal Velocity Boost" or what ever the name is for the new gen cpus can only work with 100% default settings - no overclock except for XMP. Win10 has been doing all sorts of KB checks (like many times a day it seems) adding to the normal heavy background activities. My new full release install has these "jump" moments too. Funny that another x299 rig here, which gets the latest preview distros does not suffer from this background nonsense as much - go figure. Let's face it, Windows carries a ton of legacy baggage - some of which is necessary since it has some backward compatibility "obligations".
edit - both Shift and Step work... but both can only report the multi x bclk to OS-based frequency readings. So, although Shift has more defined power states that the OS can access - we can't yet see these with the available Os-based tools.


When you enable Shift and Disable Step in bios, any downclocking is from Shift working.
Apparently the X299 Creator does not support Speed Shift. So it's Speed Step or nothing?
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