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07-11-2020 02:38 PM
concretefire
Quote: Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
Threadripper is a totally different platform, you need a TRX40 board to run Threadripper

But you can upgrade to a Zen3 4950X, 16 core / 32 threads this fall using your board

The X570 TUF may be basic in features, but it is a X570 board, has good I/O(but not great) and a 600A VRM which handles up to 3950X/4950X with ease. Even overclocked.
Ok. So, I did in fact screw up but I didn't miss by much , real world. For my needs / goals. I'm the kinda guy that will light a BBQ grill with a 5000 degree Mapp Gas Torch in 10 seconds flat......because I can.

(I got schtick to do) I'll keep that in mind. Max CPU I should drop in this board is the 4950X. Gotcha. That's honestly going to absolutely DESTROY anything I throw at it. I'm 47, don't game too much but do like technology and neat things. Especially visually. This machine got plenty of backbone to run many a cool tech whatever for years to come. (Raw, bad ass power).

I'll take it. Close enough.
07-11-2020 11:30 AM
xeizo
Quote: Originally Posted by concretefire View Post
Another question for you. In some of those very same links you suggested I look into, it looks like a lot of people are kind of trashing OUR TUF Gaming x570 boards calling it basic, not up to Asus's better line, etc.... you get it.

I said that to say this: I was planning ahead with this build. I specifically Chose the Tuf Gaming X570 because it is my FUTURE intention to eventually replace my 3700X with A true Thread Ripper ..... that will be the final cherry on top but prices are too high for me for the Thread Ripper right now. So I must be patient.

Somewhere else, Somebody had put together a color coded spread sheet showing which MOBO's could handle various levels of Ryzen's...... And I specifically remember ELIMINATING certain boards I was looking at because the color code would say > Not recommended ----......

Anyway, the Tuf Gaming board was green color coded across the board. That spreadsheet showed no issues with any heat realated / not strong enough / etc...whatever. So I figured to myself > Cool, I've got my mobo now with the future Thread Ripper in mind. - Did I miss a step somewhere? Or am I right?
Threadripper is a totally different platform, you need a TRX40 board to run Threadripper

But you can upgrade to a Zen3 4950X, 16 core / 32 threads this fall using your board

The X570 TUF may be basic in features, but it is a X570 board, has good I/O(but not great) and a 600A VRM which handles up to 3950X/4950X with ease. Even overclocked.
07-11-2020 11:26 AM
concretefire
Quote: Originally Posted by tyezh View Post
Yes, it us under Advanced / CBS. Run a latency benchmark with AIDA64 before and after enabling TSMC, this will verify for you. I can verify it worked for me. It depends on your threat profile, and you may be the target if you are going after those criminal types as well, and I have a tendency to piss off TPTW. Rowhammer/Rambleed can be exploited directly in javascript in a browser. Its trivial.

As regard to the Telemetry settings, you'd best search around, I saw some good sources on reddit lately: 1, 2

Update after clearing CMOS a number of times (even though I had done that previously) the PXE problem seems to have disappeared. I had some latency issues clear up as well. It was way high up around 95 NS, up from around 70. At the time, with TSMC disabled, it would drop to about 81 NS. Now after clearing CMOS, its around 72-73 NS with TSMC enabled.
Another question for you. In some of those very same links you suggested I look into, it looks like a lot of people are kind of trashing OUR TUF Gaming x570 boards calling it basic, not up to Asus's better line, etc.... you get it.

I said that to say this: I was planning ahead with this build. I specifically Chose the Tuf Gaming X570 because it is my FUTURE intention to eventually replace my 3700X with A true Thread Ripper ..... that will be the final cherry on top but prices are too high for me for the Thread Ripper right now. So I must be patient.

Somewhere else, Somebody had put together a color coded spread sheet showing which MOBO's could handle various levels of Ryzen's...... And I specifically remember ELIMINATING certain boards I was looking at because the color code would say > Not recommended ----......

Anyway, the Tuf Gaming board was green color coded across the board. That spreadsheet showed no issues with any heat realated / not strong enough / etc...whatever. So I figured to myself > Cool, I've got my mobo now with the future Thread Ripper in mind. - Did I miss a step somewhere? Or am I right?
07-10-2020 07:20 PM
Solohuman Just changed to this board, who's using it with Zen+ ?
When better ram comes next week, I'll fiddle more with OC on it.
07-10-2020 04:50 AM
Hueristic
Quote: Originally Posted by concretefire View Post
Ok. TBH I think you're the same guy that told the dude on reddit it was always a good practice to clear CMOS after bios update too. Like, do not pass go, etc. 1st thing. Anyway, I'm getting off track. Ok, so you firmly stating this is best practice for all mobo makes and models, period. Gotcha.......

Now question: Technical question. I believe you btw. But what are the technical issues here in 2020 --- where along the lines did we venture into these "bios brains" that we haven't completely figured out how to code it so when update the bios successfully, it auto restarts, and wipes clear clean all old any remnants, whatever....so it's fresh now. 100.

It seems to me logically, that ought to be possible. So then it must mean that "problem" with loading older saved files is software related > coding / backwards compatibility thing that's not playing nice with the hardware. Not hardware related. What is the issue here? Want to learn.
There are no standard formats for bios save files and therefore it cannot be guaranteed that a restore will be forward compatible.
07-10-2020 01:25 AM
concretefire
Quote: Originally Posted by Hueristic View Post
It is ALWAYS bad practice to load any save from a previous bios. if you want you can load without saving and then write the settings down then load defaults and then manually change those settings to what the old ones were and then make sure to save those over the old save.
Ok. TBH I think you're the same guy that told the dude on reddit it was always a good practice to clear CMOS after bios update too. Like, do not pass go, etc. 1st thing. Anyway, I'm getting off track. Ok, so you firmly stating this is best practice for all mobo makes and models, period. Gotcha.......

Now question: Technical question. I believe you btw. But what are the technical issues here in 2020 --- where along the lines did we venture into these "bios brains" that we haven't completely figured out how to code it so when update the bios successfully, it auto restarts, and wipes clear clean all old any remnants, whatever....so it's fresh now. 100.

It seems to me logically, that ought to be possible. So then it must mean that "problem" with loading older saved files is software related > coding / backwards compatibility thing that's not playing nice with the hardware. Not hardware related. What is the issue here? Want to learn.
07-09-2020 11:12 PM
Hueristic
Quote: Originally Posted by concretefire View Post
QB, To help clarify for our boards and future readers , can you confirm that the loading of "previous" old profiles do not work PARTICULARLY ON OUR BOARD ---- and to be clear, not all boards.

What I am trying to say is, I have read on other pages (I can't cite it, forgive me) (Reditt) I think where this dude seemingly swears he loads old profiles all the time on HIS BOARD < AND TO BE CLEAR, HIS BOARD IS NOT OUR BOARD. His is like X570F or something I think he called it...... Swears he has no issues and others have seemed to agree with him......

So I am getting at this > Is this just an issue on our Tuf Gaming X570's - and hopefully ASUS will be made aware and fix it in a newer bios, or am I missing something?
It is ALWAYS bad practice to load any save from a previous bios. if you want you can load without saving and then write the settings down then load defaults and then manually change those settings to what the old ones were and then make sure to save those over the old save.
07-09-2020 10:53 PM
concretefire
Quote: Originally Posted by QB the Slayer View Post
If you are trying to load from an old profile you will need to re-do everything from scratch. Profiles from older BIOS will not work with new BIOS... it sucks, but it is what it is

QB
QB, To help clarify for our boards and future readers , can you confirm that the loading of "previous" old profiles do not work PARTICULARLY ON OUR BOARD ---- and to be clear, not all boards.

What I am trying to say is, I have read on other pages (I can't cite it, forgive me) (Reditt) I think where this dude seemingly swears he loads old profiles all the time on HIS BOARD < AND TO BE CLEAR, HIS BOARD IS NOT OUR BOARD. His is like X570F or something I think he called it...... Swears he has no issues and others have seemed to agree with him......

So I am getting at this > Is this just an issue on our Tuf Gaming X570's - and hopefully ASUS will be made aware and fix it in a newer bios, or am I missing something?
07-09-2020 09:04 PM
QB the Slayer If you are trying to load from an old profile you will need to re-do everything from scratch. Profiles from older BIOS will not work with new BIOS... it sucks, but it is what it is

QB
07-09-2020 08:14 PM
Jpe1701 Anyone else seeing any ram problems with 2407 bios? I have been running my Samsung bdie gskill ripjaws 3600 cl 16 at 15 15 15 36 for months but when I updated to 2407 now it gets stuck on boot with the ram light on even when I'm just using the xmp setting. Setting the voltage to 1.40 seems to solve it and the memory passes memtest and windows memory diagnostic. Should I report it to Asus?
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