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04-04-2020 06:04 PM
Hequaqua
Quote: Originally Posted by tolis626 View Post
Hi.

Weird issue you're having there. I mean, if the thing didn't work at all when overclocked, something might've been broken, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

What I would start with is checking all the settings one by one in the BIOS. I don't know about Gigabyte motherboards, hadn't had one in 15 years or so, but my Asus boards (I had a 4790k in a Maximus VII Formula before my 3800x + Crosshair VIII Hero) sometimes set stupid values when left on auto. For instance, on auto my motherboard would set the CPU 3.3v auxiliary voltage to 3.6V for some reason. So what I'd try in your situation is go in the BIOS and don't leave much on auto. Anything you know about, any value that you know what it should be, set it manually. VDDP, VDDG, RAM timings, VCore, VSoC, VPP, VTT, auxiliary voltages, PCH voltage, whatever. You know what it should be, key it in. Pay close attention to the AMD Overclocking, AMD CBS and AMD PBS sections, these could be the culprit (or not, I dunno). Also, if your motherboard has the option, set your DDR boot voltage to just above VDIMM, it may for some reason try to boot RAM at a lower voltage causing errors. I had a similar issue with unstable RAM settings on both this system and my old one.

Other than that, check all the connections on the motherboard and PSU. Fans, RGB lights, PSU cables, everything. Maybe also try plucking out the CMOS battery for a few minutes to completely reset the thing. If everything fails... Well, maybe someone else has a better idea than I do.

Hope you get this sorted out. Cheers.
Yea, very strange. The bios settings that I've loaded are the same ones I've been running for about 8-9mo. It will boot with auto core and the memory timings/speed/voltage that I've been using for a long long time.

As far as connections, I just redid everything this morning/afternoon.....runs like a champ until I touch the multiplier or voltage. What's odd is I can set them in Ryzen Master and reboot and it's fine. I even flipped over to the secondary bios(different version as well as AGESA), same result.

I'll keep messing with it.....maybe I'll find the answer...what I should have done when I redid my custom loop was take the cpu out and throw it in my back-up rig and see what happens. That might have narrowed it down to the cpu or the MB. Hindsight is 20/20. If I don't get it straightened out, I will try that. Thankfully, I just went from hard tubing to soft, so much easier to maintain in my opinion.

Thanks for the info....maybe I'll just get a X570 board when I get my CoronaCheck!....lmao
04-04-2020 05:55 PM
tolis626
Quote: Originally Posted by Hequaqua View Post
Hey all.....in search of some input....didn't want to start a new thread...but I posted this in the thread for my MB if anyone would like to take a look and offer up some ideas.

Thanks!

https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-a...l#post28395450
Hi.

Weird issue you're having there. I mean, if the thing didn't work at all when overclocked, something might've been broken, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

What I would start with is checking all the settings one by one in the BIOS. I don't know about Gigabyte motherboards, hadn't had one in 15 years or so, but my Asus boards (I had a 4790k in a Maximus VII Formula before my 3800x + Crosshair VIII Hero) sometimes set stupid values when left on auto. For instance, on auto my motherboard would set the CPU 3.3v auxiliary voltage to 3.6V for some reason. So what I'd try in your situation is go in the BIOS and don't leave much on auto. Anything you know about, any value that you know what it should be, set it manually. VDDP, VDDG, RAM timings, VCore, VSoC, VPP, VTT, auxiliary voltages, PCH voltage, whatever. You know what it should be, key it in. Pay close attention to the AMD Overclocking, AMD CBS and AMD PBS sections, these could be the culprit (or not, I dunno). Also, if your motherboard has the option, set your DDR boot voltage to just above VDIMM, it may for some reason try to boot RAM at a lower voltage causing errors. I had a similar issue with unstable RAM settings on both this system and my old one.

Other than that, check all the connections on the motherboard and PSU. Fans, RGB lights, PSU cables, everything. Maybe also try plucking out the CMOS battery for a few minutes to completely reset the thing. If everything fails... Well, maybe someone else has a better idea than I do.

Hope you get this sorted out. Cheers.
04-04-2020 04:32 PM
Hequaqua Hey all.....in search of some input....didn't want to start a new thread...but I posted this in the thread for my MB if anyone would like to take a look and offer up some ideas.

Thanks!

https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-a...l#post28395450
04-03-2020 08:59 PM
Minotaurtoo
Quote: Originally Posted by jamie1073 View Post
Did you install the Driver package from AMD's website? It seems to help with how the core scheduling works and does it better than the Microsoft version.
I did I'm betting it has to do with this old board...
04-03-2020 07:55 PM
jamie1073
Quote: Originally Posted by Minotaurtoo View Post
very little else, I'm a software minimalist and don't like background software running if I can help it... Power plan is 1usmus's plan... but I did try multiple plans... same results...

Did you install the Driver package from AMD's website? It seems to help with how the core scheduling works and does it better than the Microsoft version.
04-03-2020 05:23 PM
Minotaurtoo
Quote: Originally Posted by jamie1073 View Post
What else was running on the system? Also what windows power plan are you running? I tested both with the 1usmus and the latest AMD Ryzen Balanced plans. The latest AMD one does much better than the previous one especially for people that do not have the 1usmus one. The AMD one is on par with the latest 1usmus plan.
very little else, I'm a software minimalist and don't like background software running if I can help it... Power plan is 1usmus's plan... but I did try multiple plans... same results...
04-03-2020 06:49 AM
jamie1073
Quote: Originally Posted by Minotaurtoo View Post
does this EDC trick work across motherboards or is it specific to one type/brand?

Edit: Did, but didn't work on my board.... I saw HWiFO64 reporting single core clocks hitting 4.65ghz much more and all core loads held at 4.3 ghz... but my cinebench scores dropped dramatically... so yeah, glitchy as heck.



What else was running on the system? Also what windows power plan are you running? I tested both with the 1usmus and the latest AMD Ryzen Balanced plans. The latest AMD one does much better than the previous one especially for people that do not have the 1usmus one. The AMD one is on par with the latest 1usmus plan.
04-02-2020 07:37 AM
keeph8n
Quote: Originally Posted by rares495 View Post
Oooh, the 8Pack 4500CL18?



no
04-02-2020 07:11 AM
Minotaurtoo
Quote: Originally Posted by jamie1073 View Post
My idle temp is in the low 30's, 32 if I am doing absolutely nothing and just checking the temp via the motherboard LED display. When running R20 with my AIO I do not go above 70C, it pretty much sits between 68-69C for the whole run. Room Temp according to my IR thermometer is normally around 20C measured on a dark surface next to the PC. EDC=16, PPT=500, TDC=210, the last two are the MB settings that auto populate as if I used 0 in those then I got the AMD defaults. Scalar is set to 4x, LLC=8 and the 1usmus Balanced power plan.
does this EDC trick work across motherboards or is it specific to one type/brand?

Edit: Did, but didn't work on my board.... I saw HWiFO64 reporting single core clocks hitting 4.65ghz much more and all core loads held at 4.3 ghz... but my cinebench scores dropped dramatically... so yeah, glitchy as heck.
04-02-2020 05:52 AM
jamie1073
Quote: Originally Posted by pegadroid View Post
and what tempt during running cinebenc r20?
idle tempt?
and room tempt?

what EDC setting?

My idle temp is in the low 30's, 32 if I am doing absolutely nothing and just checking the temp via the motherboard LED display. When running R20 with my AIO I do not go above 70C, it pretty much sits between 68-69C for the whole run. Room Temp according to my IR thermometer is normally around 20C measured on a dark surface next to the PC. EDC=16, PPT=500, TDC=210, the last two are the MB settings that auto populate as if I used 0 in those then I got the AMD defaults. Scalar is set to 4x, LLC=8 and the 1usmus Balanced power plan.
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