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05-25-2020 02:57 PM
andheartman Asus? NEVER!!!!!! Problems do not stop and after a while update support from motherboards ends .......
05-25-2020 02:31 PM
Pilotasso naaah, the 4900X should be quite faster than the 3900XT. Not only due to IPC+Mhz but also because the entire cache subsystem is shareable between all cores on the CCX complex effectively doubling the amount of accessible cache for each one of them.

You know about intel boasting about lighly threaded apps in their CPU's? They'll eat crow when this thing comes out.

05-25-2020 01:23 PM
tcclaviger My .02...

3900xt, if it's actually a 200mhz flat increase, so 4100 base, 4350 heavy multitasking, 4800 max single core, it's going to trounce the 10900k, the 3950x, and everything else in single core. It will also erase Intel in multi core, and significantly narrow the gap to the 3950x (though not quite pass it).

It will make the burn of no Zen3 on x370 that much smaller.

This will leave the Failure-Lake version 99 14nm++++++++++++++ as relevant in like 3 work loads lol.... low res, low quality gaming, some adobe apps, and memory bottlenecked synthetic benchmarks...

My extremely nice 3900x sample is up for sale the day the xt releases (if it does), presuming it will function in the C6E...
1.2v stable @ 4300 allcore stable.

PS: 10900k is already second in a lot of benchmarks to the 3900x, see cpuz link in my sig. That's stock voltage and boost behavior + pbo and 103.4bclk... configured the same the 3900xt will be 580-590 single core aka max boost 10900k territory.
05-25-2020 11:06 AM
akira2080
Quote: Originally Posted by tivook View Post
Rumor says it will have a boost clock of 4,8 ghz over certain core(s) which is more than slightly imo

It will be faster than 3950x on single threaded apps ( games ).



I am sure it will be faster. Around 5-10% so to make Intel 10900k a number 2 in Benchmarks again.


Thats the purpose of this cosmetic upgrades.




It also will be priced maybe same or slightly lower than intel i9-10900k.



Right now price for i9-10900k starting from 589 Eur.


I would say if 3900XT will be release it will be sold around 539 Eur.





3900X is 420 Eur now on sales. means 16% cheaper than hipotetical 3900XT.


I see 3900x as a good deal tbh.
05-25-2020 10:38 AM
SpecChum
Quote: Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post
Where will you be selling it? And does yours have the segfault bug? If so, get a "new" replacement from AMD first.
Not 100% sure yet, but probably on another UK based tech forum I frequent, bought and sold a few bits on there.

No idea about the segfault bug, I don't run Linux, but I've never had any issues with it and I've never noticed anything unusual.
05-25-2020 10:04 AM
The Stilt
Quote: Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post
It was revealed by one of the youtube reviewers (one of the big ones), but I do not recall which one it was. It was quite big on reddit.

Edit: Found one of the references here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5X-8vZtml8&t=1434s
Thanks
05-25-2020 09:18 AM
finalheaven
Quote: Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
Just out of curiosity, where was it stated that ASUS opposed the idea of supporting 400-series motherboards on 4th gen. Ryzen CPUs?
It was revealed by one of the youtube reviewers (one of the big ones), but I do not recall which one it was. It was quite big on reddit.

Edit: Found one of the references here:
05-25-2020 09:13 AM
The Stilt
Quote: Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post
As it was revealed that ASUS was against making older chipsets be compatible, I don't know if I would buy ASUS again. I would suggest a high-end B550 board or wait for the X670 chipset, and go with either MSI or ASRock. Both have issued bios updates quickly enough especially for their top end mainboards.

It is expected that this may be the last generation before the switch to AM5 and DDR5 though. If you can live with 3900x, perhaps waiting for Zen 4 (5000 series) may be a good idea. Although purchasing first gen DDR5 is probably a bad idea as the price and performance ratio of new DDR is usually horrible.
Just out of curiosity, where was it stated that ASUS opposed the idea of supporting 400-series motherboards on 4th gen. Ryzen CPUs?
05-25-2020 09:00 AM
finalheaven
Quote: Originally Posted by sneida View Post
hi, i have the possibility to switch to a newer board (x570). which one would you go for after owning the vi hero for 2 years? dont need absolute highend, but it should not be "worse" than the vi hero in terms of overclockability, bois update availability and so on...?

fyi - currently running a 3900x on it, works flawlessly with the newest official bios. benchmark results are in line with online published 3900x reviews. 1 thing i can't manage though is getting ram clock higher than 3533 (2x16 gb 3200cl14 b-die with dram calculator safe settings).
As it was revealed that ASUS was against making older chipsets be compatible, I don't know if I would buy ASUS again. I would suggest a high-end B550 board or wait for the X670 chipset, and go with either MSI or ASRock. Both have issued bios updates quickly enough especially for their top end mainboards.

It is expected that this may be the last generation before the switch to AM5 and DDR5 though. If you can live with 3900x, perhaps waiting for Zen 4 (5000 series) may be a good idea. Although purchasing first gen DDR5 is probably a bad idea as the price and performance ratio of new DDR is usually horrible.
05-25-2020 08:57 AM
finalheaven
Quote: Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post
Gonna put my 1700 on sale soon (does 3477 on IMC *hint hint*) lol

Seems most, if not all new 3900X's seems to clock nice, but I'm at default anyway, so I'm not too fussed.

All my CCX1 cores hit 4.6GHz or higher
Where will you be selling it? And does yours have the segfault bug? If so, get a "new" replacement from AMD first.
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