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01-24-2010 11:49 AM
Barten xandypx thank you for the input. its nice to get someones thoughts about it.
01-24-2010 09:39 AM
xandypx
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Originally Posted by Barten View Post

So along with the Polk audio 50 floor standing for my set up,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290013

I want this (because of the price and reviews) is the Polk Audio PSW10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290034
100$ from new egg, with free shipping is cheaper than the refurbished ones sold direct from Polk.
IMHO, That is a good sub, but not the greatest. Personally, if hampered with budget constaints, I would wait, and later spend a little more, and get a sub that gets down into the mid-high 20Hz range. You'll "feel" the difference.

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Originally Posted by Barten View Post
My center will be the Polk Audio CS1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290022
Price on Ebay from Polk Audio is 50$, along with there CS2 model sometimes. If i get lucky, ill get the CS2.
Either is a good match for the Monitor 50 Front L/R speakers.

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I haven't done my rear speaker research, but im sure that isn't as important (NOT SAYING ITS NOT) as the receivers, fronts, sub and center.
Correct, Important, but not as important as the Front three speakers.

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Originally Posted by Barten View Post

The receivers i have been looking at are:
Pioneer VSX-519v-k
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...SX-519V-K.Kuro

Yamaha RX-V365
http://asia.yamaha.com/en/products/a...?mode=overview

What do you think?

Edit: I have been looking at alot of receivers, and Sony's price is inviting, but more research said i should spend a little more money for a much bigger improvement in performance among other brands. Pioneer kept catching my eye along with the Yamaha models.
Some quick searches revealed that the Yamaha did not get very good expert reviews. It is actually the same receiver sold with the Yamaha product number: HTR-6230, as a HTIB (Home theater in a Box, Receiver/speakers combo). Apparantly it has problems with providing sound from a Blu-Ray player. Sound can not be passed through the HDMI, and apparantly even using a digital "Audio" connection, (Optical or Coax), in conjunction with HDMI for Video, dosen't solve the problem. There is also a whole bunch of conflicting information on Yamaha's rated output. Not to be unexpected, but it appears that the (typcially inflated, as I mentioned before), rated 100 w/channel is actually @6-Ohms, which means at 8-Ohms is something less. Also, (and this is not typical for Yamaha), Reviews stated that this particular receiver lacks "clarity" in reproducing voices in movie soundtracks.

The Pioneer on the other hand has gotten some steller reviews, given its budget price tag.

And I'm glad I caught your Edit.. One expert reviewer made the comment that the only other comparable receiver to the Pioneer able to handle LPCM decoded from a blu-ray player, in this price range is the Sony STR-DH700, but went on to pan the Sony, for having "sub-par" sound, and no onscreen display.
01-24-2010 01:39 AM
Barten Thanks for all the input. i have been reading and reading for the past 2 - 3 days now about home audio, and all of your inputs have been helpful. Ohms, Watt ratio and what i need to driver my speakers, Distortion threw the channels and Signal to noise ratios. All these companies stating these specifications and why it isn't necessarily true. Interesting stuff.

So along with the Polk audio 50 floor standing for my set up,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290013

I want this (because of the price and reviews) is the Polk Audio PSW10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290034
100$ from new egg, with free shipping is cheaper than the refurbished ones sold direct from Polk.

My center will be the Polk Audio CS1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290022
Price on Ebay from Polk Audio is 50$, along with there CS2 model sometimes. If i get lucky, ill get the CS2.

I haven't done my rear speaker research, but im sure that isn't as important (NOT SAYING ITS NOT) as the receivers, fronts, sub and center.

The receivers i have been looking at are:
Pioneer VSX-519v-k
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...SX-519V-K.Kuro

Yamaha RX-V365
http://asia.yamaha.com/en/products/a...?mode=overview

What do you think?

Edit: I have been looking at alot of receivers, and Sony's price is inviting, but more research said i should spend a little more money for a much bigger improvement in performance among other brands. Pioneer kept catching my eye along with the Yamaha models.
01-23-2010 05:07 PM
jado.123 Go to a place with high end stuff and just spend some time listening to as many as you can. I have had Onkyo and Denon in the past and have been extremely happy with both. If you are going with 5.1 and don't care about HDMI inputs I'd look for something used or closeout to save some money.
01-23-2010 10:35 AM
isstern35 Depends on what brand you like. all reciever brands are good in there own way.
Denon, Onkyo and Harmon/Kardon, Pioneer Elite are usually more expensive. But you get good sound out of them and a lot of inputs and output.
I myself have a Sony reciever with 6.1 channel. 100watts each channel from 2002 using 6 Bose double cube and a sony 100watt sub. I find this perfect for my taste.

make sure you get a reciever that does not pass the wattage of your speakers so you have no trouble with putting the volume to the max and blowing your speakers.

The models i would choose from are Yamaha, Denon, Onyko, Harmon/Kardon, Pioneer, Sony.

As the rest said above me,,,,trail and error.....go and test out the recievers at your local best buy or buy and return them.
Good luck
01-22-2010 01:11 PM
valtopps i found that polk audio you can get in many online sites cheap even neweggs got them.
there a good speaker for the money so if you get a chance to listen to them i think you will agree.
recievers dont go crazy on spending to much some have to many bell and wistles.
onkyo, yamaha they make nice recivers.
cables same here dont go crazy on hdmi or digital cables. but speaker cables you will here a differents. i use audioquest dont get suckered into monster cable i found it mutes the sound compared to audioquest.
after you got your system pick out and installed save up for a good subwoofer. you can have a great sounding system and install a low end sub and ruin it badly.
so you got some listing to do dont let anyone tell you this sound better. you be the judge of that, trust your ears. happy hunting and good luck

ps if your left and right speaker use 6'' and a 1'' make sure the center speaker uses the same size speakers. the back speaker it doesnt matter that much.
01-20-2010 07:19 AM
kingsnake2 I have an onkyo and it works great for entry level stuff but I also have family with denon, yamaha, etc. The onkyo do get warm but I've not found it to be a problem.

Soloz has been here a LONG time, he helped me when I first got into audio a little. So listen to him.

Keep in mind, if you want to get loud, those speaker may require a fair amount of watts so you probably want to avoid the lower 500-600 watt ones.
01-20-2010 03:22 AM
soloz2 Lets keep it simple for starters.


1. budget, what is your maximum you're willing to spend, and what is the sweet spot you'd like to stay within?

2. what speakers do you have/what speakers do you currently plan to purchase.

3. what will you use it for (TV/PS3/blu-ray/etc) This will determine what inputs/outputs and codecs/processing it NEEDS to perform for you and what you can live without.


Once you've answered these questions your decision will be much easier as we can help you narrow down your selections to a few choices.
01-20-2010 02:56 AM
xandypx
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Originally Posted by Trojita View Post
In all honesty you are going to hear all sort of suggestions for receivers that are based on personal preference and the receiver a person owns.

I personally own a pioneer and like it. A lot of people swear by Denon. The watts generally aren't that important since some companies might just fudge those numbers.

The rule of thumb I have always heard is that you should only spend less than half of your budget on speakers, on a receiver. This is because receiver technology outpaces speaker technology in growth and Speaker quality will effect your sound quality a lot more than the receiver (Not to say that it doesn't).

Some brands to look for

Denon
Pioneer
Marantz
Onkyo- They seem to have the best bang for your buck especially with entry level models, but I heard they get real hot. This may or may not effect you.

Harmon Kardon.
Another good forum to go to would be avsforum. The guys there know a lot about what they are talking about.

Hate to say this, but a terrible question to ask, because it is difficult to answer. You will get only opinions from people. And that’s all they are opinions. Receivers (and speakers for that matter) tend to be a personal choice, which I’ll try to explain below.

Ah!..yes.. AVSForum, I haunt that forum too. Between there and here, I wonder when I sleep... But unfortunately, you will get all the same type of fanboy hype there also. Like Trojita, I have a preference for a brand also... I like Denon. That is not to say that there is anything wrong with Pioneer. All of the brands listed above are good products. I would throw a couple of additional manufacturers into the mix: Yamaha, and Sony with their midrange products. (stay away from Sony's real low end stuff)

As Trojita stated, don't believe what you see regarding Watts/channel. These numbers are always overstated by the Manufacturer, and should not be the only criteria in your selection. There is only one exception to this rule: harmon/hardon; harmon/kardon actually provides the proper spec for their receivers, and their W/channel reflect this. The spec always looks low when compared to other manufacturers.

The best way to determine which receiver is best for you, is to get out and listen to different receivers. It is often difficult to pair up the exact speakers you have to a certain receiver, but if you can audition different receivers though the same speakers, you will get a feeling for your brand preference.

The reason I mention brand preference is that different manufacturer's receivers sound different. For example, my preference: Denon, Denon's sound is a very warm mid-range, the high frequencies, are not overdriven as to cause, what I feel to be over-accentuated high frequencies, like a Yamaha would have. Not saying Yamaha is bad, hey I recommended including it in your list. Many swear by Yamaha, as they like the high frequencies, I personally find them fatiguing, over long listening sessions. Nothing wrong with it, just not my taste.
Also Trojita's choice of Pioneer, great product, similar sound to my preference, although slightly more high frequency reproduction.

If you can't audition receivers locally, and intend to look on the internet, find someplace that has a liberal return policy, so that if something doesn’t sound “right” to you, you have the option to try something else.

You didn’t mention your budget, so I assume your speaker selection is a good one, those speakers are ok, for the price you are going to pay for them. Follow Trojita’s advice, spend the bulk of your budget on speakers… You will have them much longer than the technology that will eventually drive them.

Because you mentioned 5.1... moving to the Polk Monitor 50 tower speakers, start to save your money for your next purchase. You are going to need a decent subwoofer. You will find the M50’s lacking a little, in the low end. Assuming your set-up will be used for watching movies, the purchase after that would be a center channel speaker. This purchase will be important, because you want this speaker to me matched to your right and left front speakers. You will end up needing another Polk speaker for this duty, as a center speaker matched to the L/R will give you a seamless front soundstage.

As an example, this means nothing more than when listening to and watching something, when a specific sound moves from the extreme right to the extreme left of the front sound field, the center channel (in this case a blend of the R/L) doesn’t change the characteristics of the sound, and make the center channel “jump out” at you. The sound movement should be a nice smooth pan across the front three speakers. A different brand center will contain different drivers, that will sound different from the R/L front speakers. This will change the smooth pan that should occur, to what apears to be sounds that "jump" from one speaker to the next.
01-20-2010 01:04 AM
Trojita In all honesty you are going to hear all sort of suggestions for receivers that are based on personal preference and the receiver a person owns.

I personally own a pioneer and like it. A lot of people swear by Denon. The watts generally aren't that important since some companies might just fudge those numbers.

The rule of thumb I have always heard is that you should only spend less than half of your budget on speakers, on a receiver. This is because receiver technology outpaces speaker technology in growth and Speaker quality will effect your sound quality a lot more than the receiver (Not to say that it doesn't).

Some brands to look for

Denon
Pioneer
Marantz
Onkyo- They seem to have the best bang for your buck especially with entry level models, but I heard they get real hot. This may or may not effect you.

One thing I will mention since I know you were strapped on cash is that their is this company called Harmon Kardon. They released a receiver that had a lot of bugs when it first got released. What they did was buy back all of the receivers they put in stores, fixed their problems, and now sell a basically new product at heavy discounts on ebay if you get lucky. Some people have gotten the AVR-254 which would go $600+ for as little as $190 (Generally a lot of people had luck getting them in the $2xx range)

Link to Harmon Kardon's ebay page: http://myworld.ebay.com/harmanaudio/

Another good forum to go to would be avsforum. The guys there know a lot about what they are talking about.
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