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99belle99 09-03-2019 03:52 PM

Yea I forgot to mention I only use 3 sticks.

99belle99 09-16-2019 08:39 PM

Still rocking my X58 build. Playing GTA V at 4k 60Hz is pretty good going for this 10 year old build. Gone through a fair few graphics cards over the years and SSD's. HyperX Predator PCIe SSD is my current C drive with a 960GB SATA III SSD for storage and games. The Hyper X is faster than SATA but not up there with current NVMe SSD's.

I've had a graphics card not really worth mentioning as I didn't game at first and then a GTX 580, R9 290, R9 Fury X, Rx Vega 56 and my current Rx 5700 XT which I am amazed with. It's a great card beats out the 56 easily.

SmOgER 09-17-2019 12:38 AM

VTT was just shy of 1.4V and running 3.74Ghz uncore (DDR3 2200 CL10) for 3 consecutive years of PC running almost constantly (idling when I'm not around or doing some stuff by itself overnight and whatnot). And only now I'm starting to see some manageable degradation. What did I do do manage it? Of course up the VTT a couple of notches! :D

MayoTheGreat 09-17-2019 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SmOgER (Post 28130028)
VTT was just shy of 1.4V and running 3.74Ghz uncore (DDR3 2200 CL10) for 3 consecutive years of PC running almost constantly (idling when I'm not around or doing some stuff by itself overnight and whatnot). And only now I'm starting to see some manageable degradation. What did I do do manage it? Of course up the VTT a couple of notches! :D

You actually probably want to bring down the vtt and the uncore. Vtt on xeons shouldn't run above 1.35 or they degrade which is what your seeing. If you have to drop your ram speed down to 2000 or 1800 you won't be losing much accessing speed. By lowering the clock speed of the ram you may also be able to tighten timings so you won't even notice a difference.

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SmOgER 09-17-2019 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MayoTheGreat (Post 28130154)
You actually probably want to bring down the vtt and the uncore. Vtt on xeons shouldn't run above 1.35 or they degrade which is what your seeing. If you have to drop your ram speed down to 2000 or 1800 you won't be losing much accessing speed. By lowering the clock speed of the ram you may also be able to tighten timings so you won't even notice a difference.

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On X58 platform RAM and uncore speed is hands down better than tight timings and low speed - tested numerous times. If it took the whole 3 years for some degradation to occur I simply don't sweat about it. Plus it's not like these CPUs are expensive nowadays anyway.

SmOgER 09-17-2019 07:38 AM

So IMHO at the present time swearing by that magical VTT number of 1.35 or uncore ("max 3.6Ghz"?) is ridiculous. If it degrades it degrades - but that's very unlikely to happen soon. Worst case scenario - you replace a CPU for affordable price and OC it again.

Owterspace 09-17-2019 05:24 PM

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1.35v max vtt is ridiculous. I gave my x5690 es 1.39v for at least 5 years 24/7. I found with my x58 that it was hard on power supply’s. Anyways, I always thought the people that recommended a max vcore of 1.35v was also laughable. Thats pretty much where mine started lol and just means they need to work on their cooling. Mine needs 1.275 for 4000 and 1.58 for 4800. As for tight timings at lower mem speeds, you gotta run a high uncore, you won’t generate the bandwidth of high speed ram, but you can nail down that latency. I run mine with some old Super Talent Chrome 2000c8 @ 1600 6-6-6-20 1T 1.655v. My x5690 clocks better than my old 970 did, but my 970 could run fast ram. Wouldn’t mind getting a W series with all the dividers. And a new psu:/

Zetren 09-18-2019 05:41 PM

What's the consensus on HPET for this architecture, enable or disable?

croky 09-19-2019 02:25 AM

I would disable it. This also requires software support and, in fact, only some applications use it. System wide it's a hit or miss when it comes to improving performance. Besides, Windows 10 as moved on to TSC and TSC + LAPICs.

p.s.: just to add that invariant TSC is present since nehalem. So this xeons support it.

xxpenguinxx 09-19-2019 09:58 PM

Disable HPET, both in the BIOS and in Windows. It often hurts performance. Some UE3 based games I get 30% lower fps with HPET enabled.


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