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Particle 08-17-2017 08:31 AM

AMD Ryzen Threadripper Owners Club - 1950X | 1920X | 1900X
 
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If you own an AMD Threadripper processor, by all means make it known by sending me a private message with your processor and motherboard models.

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X
Cores: 16
Threads: 32
Base Clock: 3.4 GHz
Turbo Clock: 4.0 GHz
XFR Clock: 4.2 GHz
Cache: 41.5 MiB
Memory Channels: 4
ECC Support: Yes
PCIe 3.0: 64 lanes
TDP: 180 watts
Code Name: Whitehaven
Launch Date: 2017-08-10
Launch MSRP: $999

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X
Cores: 12
Threads: 24
Base Clock: 3.5 GHz
Turbo Clock: 4.0 GHz
XFR Clock: 4.2 GHz
Cache: 39.125 MiB
Memory Channels: 4
ECC Support: Yes
PCIe 3.0: 64 lanes
TDP: 180 watts
Code Name: Whitehaven
Launch Date: 2017-08-10
Launch MSRP: $799

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X
Cores: 8
Threads: 16
Base Clock: 3.8 GHz
Turbo Clock: 4.0 GHz
XFR Clock: 4.2 GHz
Cache: 20.75 MiB
Memory Channels: 4
ECC Support: Yes
PCIe 3.0: 64 lanes
TDP: 180 watts
Code Name: Whitehaven
Launch Date: 2017-08-31
Launch MSRP: $549

Note: I apologize for the stupid formatting used in the table below, but the forum software change has munged my ability to continue to use the old table format.

Owners List
Owner........... CPU..... Motherboard.................... Date.....
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Particle..........1950X....MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2017-08-17
Solarion..........1950X....MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2017-08-17
springs113........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-08-17
ht_addict.........1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-08-17
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farcodev..........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-08-17
lifeisshort117....1920X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-08-18
ChronoBodi........1950X....MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2017-08-26
DeviousAddict.....1920X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-08-27
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Fantasy...........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-08-28
ajc9988...........1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2017-08-28
Metuz.............1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-08-29
FlanK3r...........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-08-29
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Sandbo............1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2017-08-30
joeybuddy96.......1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-09-01
dburd48778........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-09-04
deadspeedv........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-09-07
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Machiyariko.......1900X....ASUS Prime X399-A................2017-09-09
HeliosDoubleSix...1950X....MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2017-09-10
J-S-Q.............1920X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-09-11
Ronsanut..........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-09-14
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slipsand..........1900X....MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2017-09-14
Bm514.............1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-09-16
Simmons572........1900X....ASUS Prime X399-A................2017-09-22
Emkq..............1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-09-25
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Atomicat..........1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2017-09-25
Turok916..........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-10-07
ITAngel...........1920X....ASRock X399 Professional Gaming..2017-10-12
oxijex............1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2017-10-15
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sleeper119........1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2017-10-26
Sphere07..........1950X....MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2017-10-30
johnzpa...........1900X....ASUS Prime X399-A................2017-11-19
ohms..............1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-11-25
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delerious.........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-11-25
mypickaxe.........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-11-28
4Strings..........1900X....ASUS Prime X399-A................2017-11-29
Dominican.........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-12-01
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illirio...........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2017-12-08
Ricky Bobby.......1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-12-20
BMG238............1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2017-12-27
OrionBG...........1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2018-01-18
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KyadCK............1950X....Gigabyte X399 Designare..........2018-01-31
Arne Saknussemm...1920X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2018-02-15
alienalvan........1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2018-02-28
blaket6199........1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2018-03-02
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Archea47..........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2018-03-18
cbehrend..........1950X....ASUS Prime X399-A................2018-04-24
Yamie.............1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2018-05-22
bozfish...........1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2018-06-09
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papadoc...........1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2018-06-21
EnderValentine....1950X....ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2018-06-28
jepz..............1920X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2018-07-09
OsmiumOC..........1950X....ASUS ROG Strix X399-E Gaming.....2018-07-18
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Offler............1900X....ASRock X399M Taichi..............2018-09-01
ridn3y............1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Gaming 7.....2018-09-05
tman480...........1900X....ASRock X399 Professional Gaming..2018-11-26
venura............1920X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2018-12-05
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Quadrixx..........1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Extreme......2019-01-15
NovaExclusives....2990WX...MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2019-01-24
TheMadHerbalist...1950X....Gigabyte X399 Aorus Extreme......2019-01-25
Andy Fox..........1950X....ASRock X399 Professional Gaming..2019-08-07
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HuggyBear.........1950X....MSI MEG X399 Creation............2019-08-14
Mektor............1950X....ASRock X399 Taichi...............2019-08-14
Mag the Ripper....2990WX...ASUS X399 ROG Zenith Extreme.....2019-09-06
Particle..........2990WX...MSI X399 Pro Gaming Carbon AC....2019-11-09


Air Coolers (Dedicated Designs)
Brand......... Model.............. Size............. MSRP
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Arctic.........Freezer 33 TR........120 mm PWM........ 48..
Cooler Master..MA621P...............120 mm P/P PWM.... 65..
Noctua.........NH-U14S TR4-SP3......140 mm PWM........ 80..
Noctua.........NH-U12S TR4-SP3......120 mm PWM........ 70..
Noctua.........NH-U9 TR4-SP3........92 mm P/P PWM......70..
X2.............Eclipse Advanced 992 120 mm PWM........ 45..


Socket TR4 Motherboards
Brand...... Model....................... MSRP. Now.. Year
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ASRock......X399 Professional Gaming.....440.. 440...2017
ASRock......X399 Taichi..................340.. 350...2017
ASRock......X399M Taichi.................340.. 340...2017
ASUS........Prime X399-A.................350.. 300...2017
ASUS........ROG Strix X399-E Gaming......399.. 350...2017
ASUS........X399 ROG Zenith Extreme......550.. 500...2017
Gigabyte....X399 Aorus Extreme...........450.. 430...2018
Gigabyte....X399 Aorus Gaming 7..........390.. 360...2017
Gigabyte....X399 Designare EX............400.. 397...2018
MSI.........MEG X399 Creation............500.. EOL...2018
MSI.........X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC....350.. 340...2017
MSI.........X399 SLI Plus................320.. 320...2018


Dyson Poindexter 08-17-2017 02:23 PM

Looking forward to seeing some builds!

ht_addict 08-17-2017 06:15 PM

Just picked up my 1950x. Ordered my EKWB CPU Block. Waiting on motherboard to come to local dealer.  Then I'll post pics of my build.



Motherboard is in, CPU installed. Just need my waterblock.



KingBob77 08-18-2017 12:09 AM

Just got the email yesterday from Newegg that my 1920X has been shipped along with the MSI X399 motherboard. Figured since I am now a Threadripper owner it was time to join Overclock.net... can't wait to try overclocking on this thing.

DrakkarCA1980 08-18-2017 12:24 AM

ThreadRipper 1950X initially was a nightmare for me... This is somewhat long - but if you like reading a good real life computer story - read it. If you guy's want the pictures... I'll dig up the pictures.. But to me it's like seeing a murder scene. I want to look away, I have no interest in seeing it...

I got my 1950X a few days ago and have it in a temporary case for 'proving' (making sure theres no defective parts). The CPU installation was a nightmare, bloody nightmare and I almost began to cry - i did the unthinkable, the unimaginable. I patiently got things ready on the motherboard and CPU (I wore medical grade gloves so I didn't even get fingerprints on anything, I was paranoid)... I have high intensity LED light mast overhead blaring at full power and taking photos of every step. As I slid the CPU into the bracket very slowly - one of the sides of the orange cartridge thing was not fully in place inside the metal lip of the bracket. Gently, slowly slid it in further... Then the CPU fell through... and smashed a patch of the pins on the LGA socket and bent them... doh.gif ... I jumped up and started telling myself 'no no no no no no'.... when I saw the smashed patch of pins... I turned away and almost started balling sad-smiley-002.gif not looking at the motherboard on my desk I took so much patient time to prepare... I watched all the YouTube videos, and read all the websites explaining how to do this properly. I didn't rush anything. This was a $500 motherboard I just destroyed. Never saw 1 day of use. My bloodpressure started to rise fast, and I was flushed with anxiety. I was so ashamed of myself.

I build small circuit boards (mainly FM radio's) as a hobby and working with ultra fine connections has crossed me a few times so I own a 2000x microscope for this with a live HD camera hooked into my monitor... I knew what I had to do... The unsullied motherboard, will be sullied - I was going to bend all the pins back and attempt the unthinkable. When the CPU fell, upon impact the inertia drug the CPU into a patch of pins and inverted several.My initial fear was bending them back would break them off. The pins are too small to see with the naked eye normally because of the rows and rows causes optical illusions with your eyes eveuntally. Under the scope the pins individually look like your arm from the elbow to your hand. Imagine holding an apple out in front of you with your hand out flat. From your elbow to the hand is each pin and at the top (the palm) of each one is a rounded dollop to make contact with the CPU. Take that same hand now, and put it to your face with your had over your mouth. That's how bent many pins were.

Over the period of a couple hours and PAINSTAKINGLY bent each pin SLOWLY under the scope, each bend I expected the contact point to snap off. There so fragile. A few were bent SIDEWAYS. I found the best tool ultimately was a toothpick. Somewhat too big at time's, it was soft enough to absorb any hard edges but not leave any residue, and also did not scratch the contacts. The sideways bends I did a gentle tug-tug-tug against the pin as to not bend it too much. Nothing broke! I was down to the last, and worst bent pin - all was looking good so far and the pin's metal did not fatigue as I thought it would - they were a lot more resilient than I expected! Feeling the tautness and flexibility of the metal I believe it to be gold plated nickel. I was still wearing gloves and would frequently (gently) graze my finger along the pins in the direction that they lead (so I didnt bend anymore!) and I could feel a few rough bumps. I pushed down gently until the bumps were out. Now this last pin.. Honestly I was shaking... I didn't want to bend it, I could barely see the proper angle because of the light reflecting back into the scope was casting shadows. I had to re-assess the bend over and over... It was horrible. It looked like your arm and your making a fist, and aim your fist at your face like your going to punch your own face. The hand of the pin was bent completely back, the arm was inverted and warped... Remember the proper angle was like your holding and apple with a flat palm out in front of you. The palm would be the part that contacted the CPU.

I didn't pay for this motherboard or CPU - it was a gift from my significant other who is going on a family trip to Europe. I had a lot of problems with my i7 4930K and the Asus Sabertooth x79 developed in 2011 it was currently living in. They (the significant other) heard me rant here and there about it and decided to get me my dream PC for staying behind and watching the puppies and chickens we own. I had so many problems with that motherboard. Asus abandon it with a BETA BIOS that never fully worked and you had to reset the bios frequently to get it going like an old VW Bug. It worked when you did a certain thing to it every time and you had to keep doing that but you were sick and fed up with the random chance that it didn't want to work with you on any particular day.

The LAST Pin...
I was having such a hard time seeing proper angles, rotating the motherboard around on my desk to see the exact bend. I needed to see this because if I had a chance to bend it back - it would be only one opportunity to bend it. If I bent it too much I would need to bend this pin back and fatigue it more - it would surely break. I spent about 10 minutes examining this last little bastard. Every possible angle it could move with opposing angular force. With that toothpick... I nudged it gently here, gently there. The last swipe over the top to bend the flat top back! DONE! I pressed my finger against the top of the patch of pins again and stroke them feeling for height irregularities - some felt a little too high... I pressed down with my finger just enough to balance out the pins that were too high and it felt right. Putting the board under the scope again I looked..... It was nearly flawless! No broken pins and all rows had the same distance between each other, nothing was off canter.

Putting the CPU back in the carriage, sliding it in and feeling the bump that it was placed correctly I laid it down. Then tightened each screw a little around the clock, never tightening a single screw all the way on the first try. Little by little the ThreadRipper 1950X was torqued into place..... The time was to power it up and see .... I preyed to God this worked because I didn't know what I was going to do... I pressed the power button, light's lit up on the motherboard, no errors on the LED readout... My monitor turned on showing the Gigabyte Aorus Eagle logo on the Gaming 7 motherboard. Thank you God! Thank you! I yelled. I couldn't believe it... I did it. Everything seems to always fail for me, always.. But today, this time, right now... It worked.

Typing this on 8-18-2017 @ 12:13AM here in Redding, California this was 3 days ago. As patient and careful as I was. As slow and gentle as I could be - MISTAKES STILL HAPPEN. Nobody is perfect. This is my ThreadRipper story and I won't ever forget it thumb.gif. Its running great! I've OC'ed all cores stable at 1.25v to 3.8GHz (this is temporary I plan on leaving it stock ... for now!).

In the end it just stresses the resilience of the AMD platform and why we need to continue supporting it. Intel may still have faster CPU's for $8,000 but these little firecrackers and their motherboards are in it for the long haul. Gigabyte won a new long-term-customer.

My Hardware:
CPU: AMD ThreadRipper 1950X
Mobo: Gigabyte X399 AORUS Gaming 7
RAM: G.Skill DDR4 2400 RGB 32GB (8x4 quad channel)
GPU: Two Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB RX480's (crossfire)

EDIT: UPDATE
Today is the 10 day anniversary of my installation! I am happy to announce it's still kicking butt and overclocking great! I've tortured this CPU with PRIME95 and other software to see if any thermal changes causes adverse problems and I haven't had any. Also - the LGA socket protector CANNOT be left in when the CPU is installed because it's installed literally in the bracket the CPU needs to go inside.

I attached the image of the last pin. Look at it zoomed in. Every pin around that one was also bent (at least 6 of them).




Particle 08-18-2017 06:33 AM

I liked your installation story. My first thought after doing my own installation this week was, "A non-trivial number of people are going to destroy this socket."

In my case, I had inserted the cartridge into the carrier frame, removed the protector over the socket, and then went to close the carrier frame. It was when I was maybe half an inch away from fully closing the frame that I noticed, "Hmm, that doesn't look quite right. The hole in the orange cartridge barely clears screw #1. Is it not supposed to be centered?" As it turned out, the cartridge was still about an eighth of an inch from being fully inserted but at that point had presented enough resistance that it had felt fully inserted. I had to force the cartridge down to the bottom of the frame. After doing so I was nervous about powering the thing on since there isn't any way to really see that the package is aligned correctly unlike previous LGA sockets. For all I knew the cartridge could be slightly misaligned and have just mashed the entire socket full of pins when I tightened the mounting screws.

When I powered it on, the POST reporter flashed through tons and tons of codes but after 20 seconds or so I still had no video. It seemed like the POST reporter was looping through a long sequence with the same codes appearing over and over. Disappointed, I turned it off. I did happen to notice that right as I did so, my monitor went from amber power saving to green active mode--and then it stuck there. Had the system truly given it a video signal at the last moment? Had the monitor just kicked on when the system turned off due to a power saving detection glitch? That would be plausible since voltages on the cable could have fluctuated when powering down. I've certainly seen it before on old monitors like the one I was using when using old display methods like I was--usually VGA, though I was using DVI. I tried again. After about 5-10 seconds, the monitor kicked on and the system was happily going through POST.

I wasn't thrilled with the TR4 socket installation experience.

On a side note: Your story I think illustrates why the installation video from MSI that I watched showed them inserting the processor cartridge before removing the socket pin cover. I don't remember if I did it in that order or not, but knowing what I do now and having read your own story I would strongly advise anyone to do the installation in that order.

Solarion 08-18-2017 06:57 AM

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tarot 08-18-2017 06:57 AM

Well i am up and running all AMD all DAY tongue.gif

1950x kellyrippa
32 gig Gskill flarex 3200c14
asrock Taichi x399
Corsair H115i cooler with twin EK Varder 2K fans(only spinning at 1k most of the time)
grizzly kryonaut BIG HUGE BLOB on the Z method
Corsair RM1000(bulletproof PSU
XFX Vega 64 8 gig
corsair 750 case
Samsung evo 850 500 gig ssd
couple of mechanicals and a blu ray drive.

that's it.
My build story is easy, all things arrived stripped the Baymax asus and 1800x out.
installed the cpu to the board(and i have to say it is the easiest cpu i have ever done.
3 2 1 pop pull levers pop up and pop out cartridge
place threadripper cartridge in push in till click lower down and push gently till clicks.
turn screw one till it bites.
push and turn screw 2 till it bites push turn screw 3 till it bites

torque screw one torque screw 2 torque screw 3.

big blob on Z throw the cooler on and tighten in pattern make sure it is as even as you can.


throw the rest of the gear in fire it up
first boot straight into bios.
set fans up set ram to xmp/doscp

reboot
windows download and setup drivers and download latest bios
reboot to bios flash bios reboot reset up ram and fans.

enjoy smile.gif

some pics.











some 3dmark and vega results with comparisons and some rough power and temp readings for the vega.

Solarion 08-18-2017 07:30 AM

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ocvn 08-18-2017 09:04 AM



4G, 1.325V... testing with bykski block, ambient 25

Solarion 08-18-2017 09:16 AM

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ocvn 08-18-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Solarion View Post

Sweet! Was wondering how that block would stack up. What's your loop setup look like? ...rad, pump, fans?

Monsta 480 push-pull 8 fans 1500 rpm > pump D5 +resevor > block.

springs113 08-18-2017 10:13 AM

Just a sneak...using the 503 beta bios on the rog.

LiquidHaus 08-18-2017 12:33 PM

What's up guys.

Figured since I haven't joined an owners club in a while, the Threadripper club would be the one to join up with since this product is huge in every way.


I'll let some photos do the talking but I also have some info to hand out.

As my system currently sits, I was able to achieve a stable overclock on my 1920X at 4.1ghz at 1.33v.

On the Asus Zenith Extreme, I set the CPU power delivery settings from Standard, to Optimized, also with a 110% power rating for VRM and CPU.

This occasionally bumps the 1.33v to 1.35v, to which I've seen it occasionally bump up to during burn in tests. It's actually the voltage it was at in the screenshot I took.



For cooling, I normally run a full custom loop for most systems I build for myself, reviews, and other people. But with the lack of waterblocks available to the market, I had to resort to making what I had, work.

I had a Corsair H110i GT with a dead pump sitting around and I figured I could rip it apart and build it into my custom loop. Unfortunately the impeller within the AIO head is also the seal, so it literally cut my flow in half, but with two D5 pumps, it's still more than sufficient.

Being that the H110i GT head isn't an Asetek style mount, I had to improvise. With info I gathered from Tom's Hardware, I found out that the cooler mounting threads on the TR bracket are M3.5. A very strange thread size and one you can't normally find at a hardware store. Luckily, the RC car manufacturer HPI has a screw set that is perfect for this situation.

Utilizing some corner braces that I got at Home Depot, I was able to use those by cutting them at the corner, and using the flat parts of the brace as a bridge from the AIO bracket, to the TR bracket.

The mount is perfect, and so is the thermal paste spread over the IHS. I would even go as far as saying it's better than the current Asetek round style paste spread.

Factoring in the +27c offset, under full load with 4.1ghz at 1.33-1.35v, temps sit at around 45c.

Absolutely fantastic. The 1920X is a beast and in my opinion, the best bang for your buck out of the three SKUs.


Okay! Now it is photo dump time.









(then I got my actual camera out)
danetgCh.jpg




If you guys have any questions, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them as best I can. thumb.gif

springs113 08-18-2017 01:59 PM

If you update the bios to the 503 beta, the offset values are fixed. my cpu generally idles around 35c with an ambient of around 27c. This is using a Corsair h100i v2.

DrakkarCA1980 08-18-2017 02:13 PM

You are exactly right - I should have never removed the cap first ...but... There was a sticker on the CPU cap that says to 'Slide out the external cap before sliding in the carrier frame with CPU' Im looking at it now. I took this as though I should remove this cap rolleyes.gif I believe my i7 2011 socket you placed the CPU in and as you lower the latch the cap automatically pop's out. Either way the pins are exposed as well on the intel too. I have the picture of the devil pin (the last one)... I was looking at it and how the hell I got it un-bent, a miracle... I attached the pictures of the moment just before the CPU fell down - and the picture of the last pin.




edit: misspelled i7 as 17

springs113 08-18-2017 02:38 PM

I may have a bad board again, first was bent pins second maybe memory slot. I can't get a post using 4 dimm slots at all. I rushed order 2 dif speeds n manufacturer of replacement ram but won't know til Sunday if it's my board. I hope not.

Solarion 08-18-2017 04:08 PM

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DrakkarCA1980 08-18-2017 06:57 PM

Were you able to get into UEFI BIOS at all? I had ram problems initially too and my ram was JDEC compliant (2400MHz). If so, does it show the correct amount of ram? Have you tested each stick individually to eliminate bad ram as an issue? I know all x399 board makers are going to be rushing some hot fix bios's - Gigbyte just released one for the Aorus Gaming 7 to fix ram speeds defaulting to 2133. My BIOS would reset itself to stock values whenever I set it to use the XMP profile - that got fixed about 4 days ago. For your initial setup make sure you keep FAST BOOT off. Your likely going to be rebooting a lot and going into the bios quite a bit. On other platforms ive seen vanishing ram when changing video cards ect. where half a bank would just not work. Resetting the BIOS with the jumper will force the BIOS to retrain itself and recognize ram that may have been overlooked. This was a glitch on Asus bio's for a bit that was related to fast boot. Just a thought.

Jbravo33 08-18-2017 07:10 PM

havent had a ton of time to play around and im temporarily on a 120 aio... yikes. so far

trippinonprozac 08-19-2017 01:34 AM

Great work guys! Whatching with great interest! Want to see some 3dmark benchmarks overclocked!

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

farcodev 08-19-2017 06:41 PM

First bench with my Aorus / 1950X @3.7Ghz. I'm pretty noob so I just put the multiplier @ 3.7Ghz + 1.25 VCORE
I just found strange that my VID is @ 1.55V since my VCORE is 1.236V headscratch.gif
HWiNFO64 display the same thing



With AIDA64 - Stress Test, I'm a pretty happy camper, especially when I see my 3930K @ 4.2Ghz thermal enveloppe for comparison

Solarion 08-20-2017 02:13 PM

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farcodev 08-21-2017 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Solarion View Post

Vcore reporting seems to hop around a lot with lower settings on the MSI Carbon as well...though I don't recall seeing 1.55v...that'd have gotten my attention. Probably something to do with AMD's SenseMI implementation. The goofy VID fluctuations seem to go away above 3.7Ghz...at least on my setup.
Yeah I didn't liked it much.
Anyway in the end I will not OC it, it's good enough for me as it is. 140-160W more @ 3.7Ghz for a bump in processing...

But interesting CPU for sure.

DaNiJ3L 08-21-2017 06:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tarot View Post

Well i am up and running all AMD all DAY tongue.gif

1950x kellyrippa
32 gig Gskill flarex 3200c14
asrock Taichi x399
Corsair H115i cooler with twin EK Varder 2K fans(only spinning at 1k most of the time)
grizzly kryonaut BIG HUGE BLOB on the Z method
Corsair RM1000(bulletproof PSU
XFX Vega 64 8 gig
corsair 750 case
Samsung evo 850 500 gig ssd
couple of mechanicals and a blu ray drive.

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hey man. any chance you could boot linux live cd and get us IOMMU groups on that board?

here is how to do it if unsure:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Enabling_IOMMU

tyvm in advance.

GuitarFreak 08-21-2017 09:01 AM

I'm waiting for my EK block to come in, then I can finally get it up and running!



The installation process was definitely a bit more difficult than I thought it would be. I couldn't get the #1 screw to catch when screwing it in, and it took a lot more pressure than I thought it would take to get it in. Screwed it in about a quarter turn, then the same thing with the #2 and #3 screws. Took a ton of force to get them to start threading in. All worked out in the end though, but it made me nervous when I was doing it!

tarot 08-21-2017 01:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaNiJ3L View Post

hey man. any chance you could boot linux live cd and get us IOMMU groups on that board?

here is how to do it if unsure:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Enabling_IOMMU

tyvm in advance.

i,ll give it a shot but it has been a while sine i touched Linux smile.gif

and for those overclocking voltages llc levels and temps please(along with cooling)

as for the ek vaders....no so far they have only got to 1300 and not loud at all if i decide to stretch its legs more i am pretty sure they will really crank up.
and at the momenti have the vega 64 with blower...when that cranks full it is a good 50 decibals so yeha tongue.gif

tarot 08-21-2017 03:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaNiJ3L View Post

hey man. any chance you could boot linux live cd and get us IOMMU groups on that board?

here is how to do it if unsure:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#Enabling_IOMMU

tyvm in advance.
tried knoppix 7.2 but it came up with a kernal panic things o then tried partmagic which loaded did the first one got this
Quote:
[email protected]:~# dmesg|grep -e DMAR -e IOMMU
[ 0.917781] AMD-Vi: IOMMU performance counters supported
[ 0.918168] AMD-Vi: IOMMU performance counters supported
[ 0.932062] AMD-Vi: Found IOMMU at 0000:00:00.2 cap 0x40
[ 0.932537] AMD-Vi: Found IOMMU at 0000:40:00.2 cap 0x40
[email protected]:~#

no idea what it means but hey i,m trying smile.gif
and the next one
Quote:
[email protected]:~# for d in /sys/kernel/iommu_groups/*/devices/*; do
> n=${d#*/iommu_groups/*}; n=${n%%/*}
> printf 'IOMMU Group %s ' "$n"
> lspci -nns "${d##*/}"
> done;
IOMMU Group 0 00:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 10 01:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43ba] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 01:00.1 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b6] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 01:00.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b1] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 02:00.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 02:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 02:05.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 02:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 02:07.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 10 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1539] (rev 03)
IOMMU Group 10 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:24fb] (rev 10)
IOMMU Group 10 06:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1539] (rev 03)
IOMMU Group 11 40:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 12 40:01.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1453]
IOMMU Group 13 40:02.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 14 40:03.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 15 40:04.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 16 40:07.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 16 40:07.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1454]
IOMMU Group 16 44:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:145a]
IOMMU Group 16 44:00.2 Encryption controller [1080]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1456]
IOMMU Group 16 44:00.3 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:145c]
IOMMU Group 17 40:08.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 17 40:08.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1454]
IOMMU Group 17 45:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1455]
IOMMU Group 17 45:00.2 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901] (rev 51)
IOMMU Group 18 41:00.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1470] (rev c1)
IOMMU Group 19 42:00.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1471]
IOMMU Group 1 00:01.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1453]
IOMMU Group 20 43:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:687f] (rev c1)
IOMMU Group 21 43:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:aaf8]
IOMMU Group 2 00:02.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 3 00:03.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 4 00:04.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 5 00:07.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 5 00:07.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1454]
IOMMU Group 5 08:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:145a]
IOMMU Group 5 08:00.2 Encryption controller [1080]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1456]
IOMMU Group 5 08:00.3 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:145c]
IOMMU Group 6 00:08.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 6 00:08.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1454]
IOMMU Group 6 09:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1455]
IOMMU Group 6 09:00.2 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901] (rev 51)
IOMMU Group 6 09:00.3 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1457]
IOMMU Group 7 00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller [1022:790b] (rev 59)
IOMMU Group 7 00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge [1022:790e] (rev 51)
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1460]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1461]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1462]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1463]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1464]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1465]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.6 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1466]
IOMMU Group 8 00:18.7 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1467]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1460]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1461]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1462]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1463]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1464]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1465]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.6 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1466]
IOMMU Group 9 00:19.7 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1467]

Nicklas0912 08-21-2017 04:01 PM

@lifeisshort117

Can you do some Firestike/Timespy on 4.1Ghz?

DaNiJ3L 08-21-2017 04:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tarot View Post

tried knoppix 7.2 but it came up with a kernal panic things o then tried partmagic which loaded did the first one got this
no idea what it means but hey i,m trying smile.gif
and the next one

tyvm. this is what I was looking for.

tarot 08-21-2017 07:08 PM

i have a question in regards to NUMA/UMA i know you can change it in ryzen master but is there a way to do it in the bios and if so where the hell is it smile.gif i looked high and low and still none the wiser...i would prefer not not install ryzen master as not big on software tweaks prefer the nuts down method smile.gif

farcodev 08-21-2017 08:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tarot View Post

i have a question in regards to NUMA/UMA i know you can change it in ryzen master but is there a way to do it in the bios and if so where the hell is it smile.gif i looked high and low and still none the wiser...i would prefer not not install ryzen master as not big on software tweaks prefer the nuts down method smile.gif
I haven't seen any option for that in the AORUS' bios

Particle 08-21-2017 09:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tarot View Post

i have a question in regards to NUMA/UMA i know you can change it in ryzen master but is there a way to do it in the bios and if so where the hell is it smile.gif i looked high and low and still none the wiser...i would prefer not not install ryzen master as not big on software tweaks prefer the nuts down method smile.gif

It should say something about memory mode. They call it other names though. Distributed is code for UMA and Local is code for NUMA.

springs113 08-22-2017 05:03 AM

Maybe amd asked for it to be removed...according to the asus reps over in the zeniths thread, that is what happened.

Woundingchaney 08-22-2017 05:15 AM

Just ordered my 1920x build, should have it up and running over the weekend.

Solarion 08-22-2017 06:43 AM

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Woundingchaney 08-22-2017 06:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarion View Post

Possibly. I don't see any options for changing it in the MSI Carbon BIOS either. A bit of a shame, NUMA really takes a bite out of the latency situation on the 1950x. With 64GB of RAM installed I may well run in local mode 24/7 as the hit on the few high end programs(video editing mostly) seems to be relatively minor. Seems like when you set local mode in ryzen master the setting survives reboots at least. Not sure what sets it back to distributed mode, but at some point it ends up getting switched back...perhaps fiddling with BIOS settings?
Nice! Which motherboard did you choose?

Got a combo deal on the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon

farcodev 08-22-2017 07:22 AM

I received finally the Zenith.
Time to test the old apps and (slowly) transfer and test the stuff from the X79 to the X399.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woundingchaney View Post

Just ordered my 1920x build, should have it up and running over the weekend.
Fun weeks ahead.biggrin.gifthumb.gif

springs113 08-22-2017 07:37 AM

Is it weird that I'm as excited for everyone here making the jump/upgrading to TR as much as I am for myself?
It's always fun to do a new build but for some odd reason this build have me feeling like this is my first build ever.

What is the highest OC reported so far by a regular user?

farcodev 08-22-2017 07:43 AM

Nothing weird for the geeks we are thumb.gif
It's a new platform, new tech and for one time it's not Intel (nothing against it, I was pretty satisfied with the 3930K but a bit of diversity of product is fun). So yeah, it's entertaining.
Quote:
Originally Posted by springs113 View Post

What is the highest OC reported so far by a regular user?
I think it's 4.1Ghz, someone posted that.

springs113 08-22-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by farcodev View Post

Nothing weird for the geeks we are thumb.gif
It's a new platform, new tech and for one time it's not Intel (nothing against it, I was pretty satisfied with the 3930K but a bit of diversity of product is fun). So yeah, it's entertaining.
I think it's 4.1Ghz, someone posted that.
Thanks lol, yes every build in my house is all Intel. From the q6600 to my latest 5930k. Nice change of scenery. Now just waiting for my new boards arrival(2moro). I've not been lucky with Asus this go around, hopefully 3rd times a charm.

The Stilt 08-22-2017 08:35 AM

How the hell are people cooling these, when there are exactly zero compatible coolers available for the platform (outside those POS Asetek AIOs)?

What a piece of junk mad.gif

springs113 08-22-2017 08:37 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

How the hell are people cooling these, when there are exactly zero compatible coolers available for the platform (outside those POS Asetek AIOs)?

What a piece of junk mad.gif
i found my processor to run quite cool (h100i v2). I didn't stress test or anything but on average use, it was relatively surprising how cool it ran.

hebrewbacon 08-22-2017 08:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

How the hell are people cooling these, when there are exactly zero compatible coolers available for the platform (outside those POS Asetek AIOs)?

What a piece of junk mad.gif

This is why I'm waiting for a TR specific waterblock to release before buying.
I think a lot of people are using existing AIOs like the Thermaltake 360 AIO with decent results. Most of them fall flat when you start overclocking though.

The Stilt 08-22-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by springs113 View Post

i found my processor to run quite cool (h100i v2). I didn't stress test or anything but on average use, it was relatively surprising how cool it ran.

They're relatively fine at stock, however you can't do much overclocking on them while keeping the temperatures at sane levels. Especially on Ryzen, which has extremely steep power curve beyond ~ 3.5GHz. The Asetek blocks are anything but optimal for TR.

springs113 08-22-2017 08:53 AM

Understandable, which is why I have an EK block on order. I also will pick up a secondary one as well maybe Swiftechs SKF or the Heatkiller block. Ryzen is plenty fast even at stock. Clock for clock it is basically the same as Kaby.

nycgtr 08-22-2017 09:02 AM

I have mine on a h100v2 don't even want to try to oc it. The tubes feel warm as hell just on stock and idle. I's idling at about 45-47c.

Solarion 08-22-2017 09:08 AM

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farcodev 08-22-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

How the hell are people cooling these, when there are exactly zero compatible coolers available for the platform (outside those POS Asetek AIOs)?

What a piece of junk mad.gif
Not so junk and POS, it works well with a H100i v2... Temperatures are even better than my [email protected] with a H100...

LunaP 08-22-2017 10:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by farcodev View Post

Not so junk and POS, it works well with a H100i v2... Temperatures are even better than my [email protected] with a H100...

Hey I'm also upgrading from the x79 as well and curious to hear your experience once things are up and working? Coming from the rampage IV black edition + 4960X

I want this for OBS more than anything lol

farcodev 08-22-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post

Hey I'm also upgrading from the x79 as well and curious to hear your experience once things are up and working? Coming from the rampage IV black edition + 4960X

I want this for OBS more than anything lol
No problems. I already tested up a bit + OC a bit with the AORUS and it's needless to say that's a powerhouse (in all the meaning of the term tongue.gif ).
But It's cool to see that, even at stock, how faster it is in MP but also in SP (about 15% more IPC than the [email protected]).

And I'm impressed by the temperatures. They can seem to be high for some people but for me they are damn good compared to X79. In Summer like now, with about 24-27 degrees room temperature, I have 38-43 degrees on the cores of the Intel @ Idle.
At full charge on 6 cores I'm very near of the TJMax, which is always a bit "stressing". At 4.0Ghz it is less wild. So I had to hold my horses in full load like Blender raytracing. It's why I waited for an upgrade to a 7920x and then, TR came. Good move-Bad move, well ... I don't regret it.

With the TR it's funny to see it reaching 75 degrees and stay stable (when OC at @3.7Ghz) and about 65 not OC, all that with 100% stress use.
Of course that count that I have some Noctua industrial 3000RPM on the memory slots and some mini Kaze on the VRM (I took this "cultural custom" since the X79).

Yeah the AIO aren't so elite vs a custom loop, but this new tech of CPU do a good job with them, for a 16 cores / 180W TDP. thumb.gif

I'm eager to start to finally setup a "production" Win 10 (I just received the Zenith about 4hrs ago and I'm working at home..), other than a benching one, and install Blender and Maya to compare vs the 3930 and laughing.
I seen also the test of a Youtuber with Sony Vegas Pro, and it used all the cores of this big baby, crunching the HD video in no time.

LunaP 08-22-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by farcodev View Post

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No problems. I already tested up a bit + OC a bit with the AORUS and it's needless to say that's a powerhouse (in all the meaning of the term tongue.gif ).
But It's cool to see that, even at stock, how faster it is in MP but also in SP (about 15% more IPC than the [email protected]).

And I'm impressed by the temperatures. They can seem to be high for some people but for me they are damn good compared to X79. In Summer like now, with about 24-27 degrees room temperature, I have 38-43 degrees on the cores of the Intel @ Idle.
At full charge on 6 cores I'm very near of the TJMax, which is always a bit "stressing". At 4.0Ghz it is less wild. So I had to hold my horses in full load like Blender raytracing. It's why I waited for an upgrade to a 7920x and then, TR came. Good move-Bad move, well ... I don't regret it.

With the TR it's funny to see it reaching 75 degrees and stay stable (when OC at @3.7Ghz) and about 65 not OC, all that with 100% stress use.
Of course that count that I have some Noctua industrial 3000RPM on the memory slots and some mini Kaze on the VRM (I took this "cultural custom" since the X79).

Yeah the AIO aren't so elite vs a custom loop, but this new tech of CPU do a good job with them, for a 16 cores / 180W TDP. thumb.gif

I'm eager to start to finally setup a "production" Win 10 (I just received the Zenith about 4hrs ago and I'm working at home..), other than a benching one, and install Blender and Maya to compare vs the 3930 and laughing.
I seen also the test of a Youtuber with Sony Vegas Pro, and it used all the cores of this big baby, crunching the HD video in no time.


Nice, I was in the same boat too, waiting on the 79xx series, but after seeing it couldn't be delidded and reading up on TR I was pretty much sold. I was heavily debating on the Auros/Asrock ( fatalty) since the zenith only had 6 sata ports and I'm using 7 on my older asus, and granted I'd be adding an M.2 to boot as well. I don't think I'll have room for a sata expansion card to put in so hopefully they make something for the u2 slot that could hook up 1-2 sata drives, but thats just wishful thinking on my end.

I run my old 4960x @ 4.5ghz on all cores and 64gb ram @ 2133. HOPING to get 64gb w/ this and still hit 4.0 on all cores ( won't even bother attempting 4.1+ since I"m hearing its possible to hit 128gb @ 3066, I figured 64 would be enough given only 1 dimm per controller vs 2, hopefully we'll see improvements as we go.

I see ur testing a lot of boards, definitely let us know ur findings between the Auros and the Zenith.

I'm glad to hear Vegas takes advantage of this as I do a lot of speed paints, not to mention hearing great things on OBS as far as cpu compression goes.

Bonus if I can still game like I did on my 4960 then I can't ask for much more lol.

mouacyk 08-22-2017 11:31 AM

I hope some of you owners test out kvm with gpu pass-through gaming and heavy code compilations. Thanks.

farcodev 08-22-2017 12:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post

Nice, I was in the same boat too, waiting on the 79xx series, but after seeing it couldn't be delidded and reading up on TR I was pretty much sold. I was heavily debating on the Auros/Asrock ( fatalty) since the zenith only had 6 sata ports and I'm using 7 on my older asus, and granted I'd be adding an M.2 to boot as well. I don't think I'll have room for a sata expansion card to put in so hopefully they make something for the u2 slot that could hook up 1-2 sata drives, but thats just wishful thinking on my end.

I run my old 4960x @ 4.5ghz on all cores and 64gb ram @ 2133. HOPING to get 64gb w/ this and still hit 4.0 on all cores ( won't even bother attempting 4.1+ since I"m hearing its possible to hit 128gb @ 3066, I figured 64 would be enough given only 1 dimm per controller vs 2, hopefully we'll see improvements as we go.

I see ur testing a lot of boards, definitely let us know ur findings between the Auros and the Zenith.

I'm glad to hear Vegas takes advantage of this as I do a lot of speed paints, not to mention hearing great things on OBS as far as cpu compression goes.

Bonus if I can still game like I did on my 4960 then I can't ask for much more lol.
I have now two boards only because I was a bit too much impatient and the Zenith was in backorder by the time. I should have to wait but anyway I wasted some $. I'm lucky that dividends compensated this silly and costly move from my part...

Yeah I will tell, I just hope that the bios menu are better set than for the AORUS. Not that the AORUS is bad, and yeah I know that's a new platform and BIOS, but, they could have at least disabled the IOMMU... That could have spared me 2 days that I wasted... And I wasn't alone in the same case.

I took it because the Zenith seems more complete and the 10g is a nice addition. I never had a ROG until now. It's a premium, but I will not upgrade for the next 7-10 years.

For gaming, I don't think you'll see a difference, in the bad way. thumb.gif

LunaP 08-22-2017 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by farcodev View Post

I have now two boards only because I was a bit too much impatient and the Zenith was in backorder by the time. I should have to wait but anyway I wasted some $. I'm lucky that dividends compensated this silly and costly move from my part...

Yeah I will tell, I just hope that the bios menu are better set than for the AORUS. Not that the AORUS is bad, and yeah I know that's a new platform and BIOS, but, they could have at least disabled the IOMMU... That could have spared me 2 days that I wasted... And I wasn't alone in the same case.

I took it because the Zenith seems more complete and the 10g is a nice addition. I never had a ROG until now. It's a premium, but I will not upgrade for the next 7-10 years.

For gaming, I don't think you'll see a difference, in the bad way. thumb.gif

To note on that, I was able to override my complaint on sata ports w/ this baby. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118223&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Server+-+Accessories-_-N82E16816118223&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7-a6psjr1QIVBm5-Ch0E4AWlEAQYASABEgKkq_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Since its u.2 -> sata breakout ( as well as sas if u have it ) I could essentially hit more. I only actually needed 7 slots anyways and this would keep me from having to get rid of something and convert it to usb3.

Definitely adding an m.2 though. Guess I'll do my order today, your comment was the push I needed honestly.

Testier 08-22-2017 12:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by farcodev View Post



And I'm impressed by the temperatures. They can seem to be high for some people but for me they are damn good compared to X79. In Summer like now, with about 24-27 degrees room temperature, I have 38-43 degrees on the cores of the Intel @ Idle.
At full charge on 6 cores I'm very near of the TJMax, which is always a bit "stressing". At 4.0Ghz it is less wild. So I had to hold my horses in full load like Blender raytracing. It's why I waited for an upgrade to a 7920x and then, TR came. Good move-Bad move, well ... I don't regret it.

With the TR it's funny to see it reaching 75 degrees and stay stable (when OC at @3.7Ghz) and about 65 not OC, all that with 100% stress use.
Of course that count that I have some Noctua industrial 3000RPM on the memory slots and some mini Kaze on the VRM (I took this "cultural custom" since the X79).

Yeah the AIO aren't so elite vs a custom loop, but this new tech of CPU do a good job with them, for a 16 cores / 180W TDP. thumb.gif
.

Hi,

would you mind telling what the actual wattage pulled off at 3.7ghz overclock where it resulted in 75c on your H100 v2?


Thanks

cletus-cassidy 08-22-2017 01:02 PM

I'm putting together a custom loop for a 1950X with the EK TR Block (+ two 360 rads plus a 280) and a 1080 TI with EK block.

I have 3/8-1/2" (13/10mm) ID/OD tubing and compression fittings on hand from a prior build and was going to use use that. I know with past tests there has been minimal difference between smaller and larger diameter tubing in PC water cooling temps. Any reason to think that has changed with Threadripper where larger tubing would provide a substantial performance impact based on volume?

nycgtr 08-22-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cletus-cassidy View Post

I'm putting together a custom loop for a 1950X with the EK TR Block (+ two 360 rads plus a 280) and a 1080 TI with EK block.

I have 3/8-1/2" (13/10mm) ID/OD tubing and compression fittings on hand from a prior build and was going to use use that. I know with past tests there has been minimal difference between smaller and larger diameter tubing in PC water cooling temps. Any reason to think that has changed with Threadripper where larger tubing would provide a substantial performance impact based on volume?

No

Testier 08-22-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cletus-cassidy View Post

I'm putting together a custom loop for a 1950X with the EK TR Block (+ two 360 rads plus a 280) and a 1080 TI with EK block.

I have 3/8-1/2" (13/10mm) ID/OD tubing and compression fittings on hand from a prior build and was going to use use that. I know with past tests there has been minimal difference between smaller and larger diameter tubing in PC water cooling temps. Any reason to think that has changed with Threadripper where larger tubing would provide a substantial performance impact based on volume?

Tubing doesnt affect your performance as the net mass flowrate is decided by the pump, thinner tubing just effectively make the fluid goes faster in the tubing itself. The actual fluid speed in your radiator/heatsink is depended upon the entry diameter of those device and thicker tubing would not change it. The thing I can think of that tubing might affect its adding additional headloss depending on thickness but it negligible for the most par in this case I think. Unless your tubing is designed to transfer heat, it is completely irrelevant for the most part.

hebrewbacon 08-22-2017 01:18 PM

Yeah like the other posters have said, tubing size makes 0 difference. Other factors are more important like radiators, fans, ambient temperature etc

tarot 08-22-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

How the hell are people cooling these, when there are exactly zero compatible coolers available for the platform (outside those POS Asetek AIOs)?

What a piece of junk mad.gif
h115i highest temp stock here for the 1950x is 65 degrees overclocked to 3.9 hit 75
i would not exactly call that junk and have not even tweaked the vaders yet smile.gif

i,ll be giving 4g a whirl today

farcodev 08-22-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaP View Post

To note on that, I was able to override my complaint on sata ports w/ this baby. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118223&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Server+-+Accessories-_-N82E16816118223&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7-a6psjr1QIVBm5-Ch0E4AWlEAQYASABEgKkq_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Since its u.2 -> sata breakout ( as well as sas if u have it ) I could essentially hit more. I only actually needed 7 slots anyways and this would keep me from having to get rid of something and convert it to usb3.

Definitely adding an m.2 though. Guess I'll do my order today, your comment was the push I needed honestly.
Yeah the U2 connector is a server / SAS oriented stuff. It's a good move and really a pro thing on the motherboards that have it.

It's why it is silly when they call these motherboards "gamer", they are more server class than anything.
It reminds me the 90's with the word "multimedia" served for any marketing crap rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Testier View Post

Hi,

would you mind telling what the actual wattage pulled off at 3.7ghz overclock where it resulted in 75c on your H100 v2?


Thanks
It was 320/330W on the package with 1.25V VCORE and 1.55V VID, if I remember well (the AORUS is repackaged now, I will setup the Zenith in about 1hr)

Just excuse me because I'm not great with O/C, so I just changed the multi at x37 and VCORE at 1.25. No LLC change or anything has been done.

cletus-cassidy 08-22-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Testier View Post

Tubing doesnt affect your performance as the net mass flowrate is decided by the pump, thinner tubing just effectively make the fluid goes faster in the tubing itself. The actual fluid speed in your radiator/heatsink is depended upon the entry diameter of those device and thicker tubing would not change it. The thing I can think of that tubing might affect its adding additional headloss depending on thickness but it negligible for the most par in this case I think. Unless your tubing is designed to transfer heat, it is completely irrelevant for the most part.

My sense as well but glad that is the consensus view. I'm going to have a ton of rad capacity because I had three rads laying around (EK XE 360, Nemesis GTS 360 and Nemesis GTS 280) so should have some good headroom for my OC. Will report back once I have it up and running.

Solarion 08-22-2017 02:00 PM

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The Stilt 08-22-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tarot View Post

h115i highest temp stock here for the 1950x is 65 degrees overclocked to 3.9 hit 75
i would not exactly call that junk and have not even tweaked the vaders yet smile.gif

i,ll be giving 4g a whirl today

The maximum temperature for 1950X is 68°C or 95°C tCTL.

tarot 08-22-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

The maximum temperature for 1950X is 68°C or 95°C tCTL.

well in that case i would call it high then smile.gif
3.9 i had it set to 1.35 llc5 or low or off in the asrock bios

i will redo the overclock with 1.3 and see if it works as for temps running krieg this is as high as it got stock



i,ll run the same test once i overclock but as a general rule with the current setup i have not seen over 55 tdie so far

tarot 08-22-2017 03:12 PM

ok 4g at 1.3 in the bios llc auto


topped out at 65 degrees tdie going by the official figures close to the ragged edge i guess but zero throttling zero issues.

i will play around with and see what happens might be able to drop the voltage a bit but until i can figure out how to get a cheapish water-cooling setup that will also do the vega...i, m sticking with this. Although the fans are still not ramping past 1300 so i have an extra 700 rpm to play with smile.gif might have to put it in another room though ... tongue.gif

stock 55 degrees does not worry me in the slightest smile.gif




quick firestrike test
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21722187

skydiver comparison stock vs 4g
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sd/4786957/sd/4786080

sorry meant to add highest temps after those 2 test was 54 tdie


passmark


TheGovernment 08-22-2017 03:21 PM

I got my notification that my block shipped from EK yesterday. I liked the packaging so much I put it in my new build lol

tarot 08-22-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGovernment View Post

I got my notification that my block shipped from EK yesterday. I liked the packaging so much I put it in my new build lol

that looks awesome smile.gif

i had a quick look at the ek blocks...i, m not water-cooling guy but doesn't it look like one of the normal blocks with a bigger cold plate? i would have thought a bigger block with bigger channels would have been better?

LunaP 08-22-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tarot View Post

ok 4g at 1.3 in the bios llc auto


topped out at 65 degrees tdie going by the official figures close to the ragged edge i guess but zero throttling zero issues.

i will play around with and see what happens might be able to drop the voltage a bit but until i can figure out how to get a cheapish water-cooling setup that will also do the vega...i, m sticking with this. Although the fans are still not ramping past 1300 so i have an extra 700 rpm to play with smile.gif might have to put it in another room though ... tongue.gif

stock 55 degrees does not worry me in the slightest smile.gif




quick firestrike test
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21722187

skydiver comparison stock vs 4g
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sd/4786957/sd/4786080

sorry meant to add highest temps after those 2 test was 54 tdie

Damn nice.... I'm debating on canceling my order and waiting on Silicon lottery now, given u got a really good chip @ those voltages....

Solarion 08-22-2017 03:53 PM

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tarot 08-22-2017 03:54 PM

i haven't fined tuned the voltages yet so it *may* go lower

LunaP 08-22-2017 03:56 PM

Yeah I"m just gonna let newegg ship, that way if somehow I miss the good chips @ SL I won't be SoL on getting a chip lol, but if I luck out then I can return the newegg one anyways.

TheGovernment 08-22-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tarot View Post

that looks awesome smile.gif

i had a quick look at the ek blocks...i, m not water-cooling guy but doesn't it look like one of the normal blocks with a bigger cold plate? i would have thought a bigger block with bigger channels would have been better?

Ya it does look like that. I guess we will see in the next few weeks if it makes much difference vs one that had channels going the entire length of the block. I'm going to bet it doesn't but I'm waiting for the monoblock anyways. When they come out for the Zenith, I will be ditching this block.

tarot 08-22-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Solarion View Post

Funny, I came up with those same settings. Passed cinebench and a few other quick tests, but then crashed and burned on an Aida 64 benchmark report. Raytracing seems to get the temps up pretty good.

i hate you tongue.gif you had to say raytracing didn't you
loaded up corona and she locked up smile.gif now it may have been the vega i,ll test that later and temp was only 62 and no restart just locked screen so further testing needed.

if anything i was sure the blender test would cause it to go loopy...

Solarion 08-22-2017 06:08 PM

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tarot 08-22-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Solarion View Post

Hey don't kill the messenger bud! I threw out a few settings that looked fine for awhile too. Apparently raytracing FPU maths iz hard...who knew. lol

one issue i seem to have struck going back to stock corona is acting up it is a little slower...a second maybe but the total raytracing no longer shows up it comes up as 6 when i submit...rally weird.

but i will definitely keep that and other like povray done as my oc tests now.

farcodev 08-22-2017 08:10 PM

I pretty like the Zenith, even if there are ton of options that are sometime exotic to me.
I finally reached a stable 24/24 365 OC @ 3.7Ghz with the RAM @ 2666Mhz. I searched because I tried to use my memory at 3200Mhz but had failures after failures.

Thanks to cheedle, I have more infos on the state of memory and for now it will be my setup.

here are three screenshots:




Now, I need to install a second SSD and test some applications (like the VMs) before thinking about switching.
The platform also stay young, so waiting a bios update will not hurt smile.gif

LunaP 08-22-2017 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by farcodev View Post

I pretty like the Zenith, even if there are ton of options that are sometime exotic to me.
I finally reached a stable 24/24 365 OC @ 3.7Ghz with the RAM @ 2666Mhz. I searched because I tried to use my memory at 3200Mhz but had failures after failures.

Thanks to cheedle, I have more infos on the state of memory and for now it will be my setup.

here are three screenshots:




Now, I need to install a second SSD and test some applications (like the VMs) before thinking about switching.
The platform also stay young, so waiting a bios update will not hurt smile.gif

Grats are u running the latest bios ( released yesterday I think ) Raja posted a link in the thread if not ( for the x399 Zenith thread, which increases mem stability/compatibility.

farcodev 08-22-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaP View Post

Grats are u running the latest bios ( released yesterday I think ) Raja posted a link in the thread if not ( for the x399 Zenith thread, which increases mem stability/compatibility.
Some people have problems with it, and I prefer to wait for an official update of the bios.

Here a render result of a bench Blender (the famous BMW one):



On the 3930K: 9min 55sec 78

LunaP 08-22-2017 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iphone8 View Post

This cpu is actually for server

Its actually for consumer <3

mouacyk 08-22-2017 10:04 PM

I'm liking all these batch numbers being >=25 week of 2017.

LunaP 08-22-2017 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by iphone8 View Post

for consumer who wants to build a server at home lol


there are many options dw

tarot 08-22-2017 11:04 PM

what voltage settings did you use for 3.7 was it just auto?

rdr09 08-23-2017 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iphone8 View Post

for consumer who wants to build a server at home lol

Yes! Server and playing W3 . . .



Might not be enuf.redface.gif

farcodev 08-23-2017 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tarot View Post

what voltage settings did you use for 3.7 was it just auto?

VCore @ 1.25 with power delivery settings from Standard to Optimized, as well as throughput from 100% to 110%
For these two I followed what lifeisshort117did here

Also, at the contrary of the AORUS, with the Zenith the VIDs are more in line with VCORE, even before these settings.

ocvn 08-23-2017 06:26 AM

Testing Aorus now. Bios much better than MSI. OC my ram 16 x 4 3000 gskill tridentz without any problems ( MSI can not). So at the moment beside few minor problems, i recommend AOrus over MSI x399.

LunaP 08-23-2017 10:33 AM

I'm surprised at how quiet forums have been as of late, also is anything going on w/ OCN? I can't find any information on this but everynight around 10pm till like 6am in the morning the site goes down saying its being updated, this has been going on for over a month now so just curious if changes are actually being made or if its just their host?

Particle 08-23-2017 10:39 AM

Still waiting for heatsinks. Not a single one is available for purchase yet. *twiddles thumbs*

GuitarFreak 08-23-2017 01:21 PM

I pre-ordered the EK block on the 15th, but it apparently won't ship out until the 29th now. A little disappointed with that.

maddmarlowe 08-23-2017 01:24 PM

Hi everyone! I'm new here. I joined because I just built a 1950x rig, and am getting really poor performace from my CPU. Built a bunch of computers in the past, so this is not a new thing for me. Not sure if I am missing something in settings...or I just got a crap cpu...please any suggestions or help is welcome!

CINEBENCH
2738

PASSMARK
15865

Geekbench
single 4064 multi 18999

Windows 7 Pro
1950x
MSI X399 Carbon
MSI 1080ti Duke OC
32gb gskill 2400
corsair 115i water cooler
seasonic 850 watt

Even OC to 3.9 I can barely squeeze out 19000 on passmark.

I really hope I am just stupid and missed something. I really don't want to have to send it back :-(

HELP!




nycgtr 08-23-2017 01:35 PM

2400 might be an issue there. Your cine bench is really only 200-300 points off from bone stock.

Solarion 08-23-2017 01:37 PM

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LunaP 08-23-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Solarion View Post

Your R15 score is below even stock settings. There's something wrong with your software, suggest you check for bugs stealing clock cycles. If none, then re-install. I haven't tried passmark yet, and I haven't tried threadripper on windows 7 either(ryzen master needs windows 10), but 7 shouldn't be that far behind.

I'm almost 99% certain its the Ram speed. Since multiple tests have shown under 3k drops performance significantly ( on reddit ) 2996 is the minimum people want to go for ( if running 128gb that is which doesn't fit for this ), as TR likes high speed RAM.


Are you running in XMP or stock?

maddmarlowe 08-23-2017 01:46 PM

xmp is set to 2400, when set to 2133 passmark is about 14900


I appreciate any and all suggestions!

Thanks!

Solarion 08-23-2017 02:00 PM

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hebrewbacon 08-23-2017 02:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by maddmarlowe View Post

Hi everyone! I'm new here. I joined because I just built a 1950x rig, and am getting really poor performace from my CPU. Built a bunch of computers in the past, so this is not a new thing for me. Not sure if I am missing something in settings...or I just got a crap cpu...please any suggestions or help is welcome!

Windows 7 Pro
1950x
MSI X399 Carbon
MSI 1080ti Duke OC
32gb gskill 2400
corsair 115i water cooler
seasonic 850 watt

Even OC to 3.9 I can barely squeeze out 19000 on passmark.

I really hope I am just stupid and missed something. I really don't want to have to send it back :-(

HELP!

Any particular reason why you are still using windows 7? Wonder if it's due to some optimizations missing in 7?

nycgtr 08-23-2017 06:27 PM

So I spent 10 mins ocing. Since I've been waiting for a block but couldn't help myself lol. 4.05 with 1.35v stable. Need a block like yesterday.

LunaP 08-23-2017 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nycgtr View Post

So I spent 10 mins ocing. Since I've been waiting for a block but couldn't help myself lol. 4.05 with 1.35v stable. Need a block like yesterday.

thats w/ the 128gb @ 3200?

nycgtr 08-23-2017 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaP View Post

thats w/ the 128gb @ 3200?

With 64. I took a set out as it was in the other machine prior. I am running 4x16 atm. Temps are kinda not so great. Goes to 80c with load. Need a block.


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