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Moparman 05-17-2018 01:28 PM

Asrock X470 Taichi OC and info questions
 
Ok I'm starting this thread as i don't see one on this board. I picked one up that will be here later this week with a 2700x. I'm seeing who else has it and the type of setup and overclock you're getting so post below with settings you're using. Also any benches would be great.

Still waiting on board and cpu to come ( 5-21 eta)

Mobo Asrock X470 Taichi
CPU Ryzen 7 2700x OC TBD
Ram 2x8gb Team Dark pro 3200C14 Bdie OC TBD
PSU PCP&C Firestorm 1050w gold
NVME OCZ RD400 128
SSD 2x Adata SU800 256GB in raid0
Hdd 2x 1tb WD blue
Cooling Ex360 with 6 fans in push pull, Xspc Pro block and D5 pump
Gpu Msi 980ti Gaming with Aio Will be testing SLI also

Moparman 05-17-2018 01:28 PM

OK update 6-24-18

I have been running for some time now and found the sweet spot for my setup. 4.3ghz 1.392v under load with 3400C14 mem.
Now something i have noticed is that if I run [email protected] it runs about 3c-5c hotter than if i'm at 1.392v under load so no idea.

Juuhuu 05-18-2018 08:14 AM

Hey, I got new setup yesterday with 2700X, Taichi and gskill Ripjaws V 3200 C14 bdie.
Memory is running at 3200, didn't do any CPU OCing yet.

Moparman 05-18-2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juuhuu (Post 27417905)
Hey, I got new setup yesterday with 2700X, Taichi and gskill Ripjaws V 3200 C14 bdie.
Memory is running at 3200, didn't do any CPU OCing yet.

Nice care to post pics or any cpu benches? Also would like to see Sandra memory bandwidth and Latency bench if you don't mind.

Juuhuu 05-18-2018 01:44 PM

https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-a...mm-height.html

here is my thread that started with buying cooler for a small case and ITX board but ended totally different lol

I do those benches in sisoft sandra? I used that software long time ago.. I haven't done any OC last 10 years..

AlphaC 05-20-2018 04:27 PM

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In case anyone plans on running Linux GPU passthrough I saw this today:


IOMMU
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Juuhuu 05-20-2018 05:29 PM

Moparman did you receive board? When you boot, do you have long (10-15sek) black screen before bios/boot menu comes? Like motherboard is waiting for components and then screen turns on.

Here are benchs. Need more info?

https://gyazo.com/94999792b8492f28791e096c5a6af2f0.png

https://gyazo.com/b18a9556e01029b70d9c7862374997e3.png

TechCF 05-21-2018 08:25 AM

I got my Taichi Ultimate yesterday. Fired it up with a 2700X and a F4-3600C16D-16GTZR kit. Unable to overclock memory at all without CSM activated. Boots to windows at 3600cl16, soc 1.1v, dram 1.39v - but not entirely stable yet. Any tips would be appreciated.

Ndii 05-22-2018 04:06 AM

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Can you check if you have a serious memory bandwith lose if u set vcore and cpu frequency via bios too.
Bios 1.35A or 1.1

Stock+xmp, Ryzen Master + xmp, 4ghz 1.3v via bios + xmp

Moparman 05-23-2018 01:44 PM

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Ok I did set mine up yesterday but only had about an hour to play with it. I did notice that on boot it cycles sometimes 2 to 3 times like it's training. As I only had stock cooler on but so far so good mem is at [email protected] right out of the gate and 1.35v on it. Cpu i only played with at 4.1ghz on all cores. Mem went higher but again I didn't have much time with it. Something to note that I was not sure on. SLI is supported even when using NVME I was worried about this since the Nvme uses X4 pcie3.0 More testing to come. I did run Ceni R15 kinda sucked ended up with 1883.

Zeta09 05-25-2018 06:03 PM

New Ryzen build with Taichi?
 
This is obviously a fairly new thread

I was thinking I would go with the x370 Taichi but.....

Alot of problems over there with that board and it's BIOS' (es?)

So it seems many have paired their x470s with the 2700X here.

I think I'm strongly in the TaiChi corner just not sure what chip to pair with it

also there seems to be the issue of RAM. I like this set here: F4-3200C15D-32GTZ (Samsung B-die) from this list

What says you all?

Moparman 06-23-2018 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeta09 (Post 27463752)
This is obviously a fairly new thread

I was thinking I would go with the x370 Taichi but.....

Alot of problems over there with that board and it's BIOS' (es?)

So it seems many have paired their x470s with the 2700X here.

I think I'm strongly in the TaiChi corner just not sure what chip to pair with it

also there seems to be the issue of RAM. I like this set here: F4-3200C15D-32GTZ (Samsung B-die) from this list

What says you all?

Not sure what issues you're talking about. Right now i'm at 4.3ghz no problem with 3400C14 mem.

Lumpus 06-24-2018 02:02 PM

<Delete> Question moved to better sub-forum

Whatisthisfor 07-05-2018 04:11 AM

Guys i just stumbled over news about new BIOS with new Agesa 1.0.0.4. And Asrock is the first with it. Anyone with this board who already flashed it and want to share his opinion?

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...ex.us.asp#BIOS

museumman 07-05-2018 08:16 PM

I flashed and while its more stable in windows at solid settings it just cant get my ram humming at all. 3300mhz ( 101bclk and 3266 divider ) is about as stable as I can get. On my old B350i Strix I could run 3733mhz no problems. 3466mhz on MSI B350M Mortar was easy also. Dissapointed so far in overall memory side of this board. Clocks my 1600X much better though but the lack of high mem frequency just moots it.

davids40 07-06-2018 09:08 AM

great bios for me :)

Aenra 07-10-2018 08:37 PM

Seeing the pricing for the 'plain' Taichi surprised me, expected it to be a lot more expensive. So while i originally criticised them for the money-grabbing 'Ultimate' spinoffs, i guess i should now ammend and say i'm thankful :)
It's even cheaper than the Gigabyte equivalent.

Anyway, was expecting a lot more feedback, especially after the 399 Taichi performed so well; i guess people are still wary because of the 370's Bios issues?
(to the user above asking, the 370 Taichi performed great in the beginning; apparently, going secondhand here, they somehow managed to mess the BIOS and never quite sort it again)

MaxxDamage 07-17-2018 12:19 PM

X470 Taichi Ultimate OC
 
Hy all !


I may be his lucky owner single ASRock like this X470 Taichi Ultimape for a sheet and R7 2700X what I put into him, Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3466MHz CMK16GX4M2B3466C16 in ram's company.
CPU (Default) 4.35GHz all core Boost (1.5v+ voltage "auto"...max.) a little bit tall according to me And OC 4.1-4.2 it's already only H2O it is possible to accomplish it.
At me the 4.1GHz @ 1.306v (2x8GB 34600 CL14 RAM) (fix./tested IBT at worst and Prime95 Blend body, etc..etc.) and now I wait for it the H2O refrigeration, it lightens up then next what I can produce...2700X

Did OC become something else well?
I do not know my way round this sheet very much (Asus was my sheet always, ASRock this the first one) with a word council, I buy help, anything with pleasure and I say hello very much! :cheers:

Redwoodz 08-29-2018 12:23 PM

Have one coming today coming from the Egg, along with a 2200G and 3200 CL16 2X4GB Tridents. Can't wait to dive in!

lukart 09-06-2018 07:20 AM

That's a pretty good board for such a "low" end CPU, do you plan on upgrating later on?

Redwoodz 09-08-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lukart (Post 27611720)
That's a pretty good board for such a "low" end CPU, do you plan on upgrating later on?

Yes, and I plan to push them all to the limit.

detrophy 10-08-2018 09:32 AM

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I’ve got a nasty problem with changed PState VIDs, as the processor wont use lower VIDs than p0.
p0 is 4.2GHz @ 1.35V (a8 . 8 . 20)
p1 is 3.2GHz @ 0.99375V (80 . 8 . 59)
p2 is 2.2GHz @ 0.8125V (84 . c . 76) (have to tweak this)

Motherboard is Taichi x470 Ultimate at latest BIOS (non Beta).
The funny thing: it has worked one time, until i restarted the pc.

Is this a bios bug?

King Lycan 10-13-2018 02:38 AM

I love my ASrock board


https://valid.x86.fr/fldbyc

Diablix6 10-31-2018 06:54 PM

Hi everyone,


sorry for joining so late into the club. Recently I built my DREAMED PC that I have awaited for 6 years. But I have quite a situation with this motherboard. I have it paired with 2700X and G.Skill Trident Z 3200C14-16GB, and my motherboard is giving me some pretty strange DRAM Voltage readings. At set 1.36V I can see at BIOS or HWiNFO about 1.4V, when I set to 1.37 I see about 1.424V. Even when I clear CMOS, I have set 1.2V but I can see 1.232V. I don't OC CPU. Should it be so different from what I set in BIOS? Is it something normal, or should I RMA it?

kylon 10-31-2018 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablix6 (Post 27695256)
Hi everyone,


sorry for joining so late into the club. Recently I built my DREAMED PC that I have awaited for 6 years. But I have quite a situation with this motherboard. I have it paired with 2700X and G.Skill Trident Z 3200C14-16GB, and my motherboard is giving me some pretty strange DRAM Voltage readings. At set 1.36V I can see at BIOS or HWiNFO about 1.4V, when I set to 1.37 I see about 1.424V. Even when I clear CMOS, I have set 1.2V but I can see 1.232V. I don't OC CPU. Should it be so different from what I set in BIOS? Is it something normal, or should I RMA it?


My X470 Taichi does the same thing, at 1.35v in BIOS it will show 1.4v under Ram Voltage. I believe Asrock added an offset to ram voltage or the reading is wrong from the Sensor

Diablix6 10-31-2018 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylon (Post 27695360)
My X470 Taichi does the same thing, at 1.35v in BIOS it will show 1.4v under Ram Voltage. I believe Asrock added an offset to ram voltage or the reading is wrong from the Sensor

Hi kilon, thank you for your response.


Yeah, I suppose that they set some offset to RAM, becouse when DRAM Calculator recommended me DRAM Voltage around 1.41V to 1.43V, then my system worked best when I set DRAM Voltage about 1.38V, and it translated at 1.424V. But when I tried to set voltage at reccomended value 1.41V to 1.43V that translated at 1.45V and more, then HCI memtest gave me much more memory errors.


But question is whether they calculate that offset even at VTT_DDR Voltage. Because it should be one half of DRAM Voltage, but when DRAM Voltage is increased by offset, than is VTT_DDR also increased? I didn't find any program that would let me read VTT_DDRR voltage.

kylon 11-01-2018 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablix6 (Post 27695486)
Hi kilon, thank you for your response.


Yeah, I suppose that they set some offset to RAM, becouse when DRAM Calculator recommended me DRAM Voltage around 1.41V to 1.43V, then my system worked best when I set DRAM Voltage about 1.38V, and it translated at 1.424V. But when I tried to set voltage at reccomended value 1.41V to 1.43V that translated at 1.45V and more, then HCI memtest gave me much more memory errors.


But question is whether they calculate that offset even at VTT_DDR Voltage. Because it should be one half of DRAM Voltage, but when DRAM Voltage is increased by offset, than is VTT_DDR also increased? I didn't find any program that would let me read VTT_DDRR voltage.


I have asked myself the exact same thing, and dont have an answer.
What i have tested is that if i put BIOS RAM Voltage to 1.45 it will show up as 1.504.
Increasing the VTT_DRR from 0.730 to 0.750 seemed to increase Stability which would indicate that they dont increase the VTT_DRR.
I dont think there is a way to read out VTT_DRR Voltage, so we dont have a way of knowing.

MrPenguin 11-03-2018 01:08 AM

I too have noticed the DDR Voltage issue. I set the voltage as per the calculator at 1.365, but HwInfo reports over 1.4.

Is there an option to decrease the offset? I don't know why they would do this. I simply lowered the value in Bios to get as close to the calculators recommendation when reading from HwInfo.

I have also noticed this issue with the SOC Voltage reading.

Wandererqq 11-06-2018 11:59 PM

Recently I build a new pc with the following parts: Ryzen , asrock Taichi X470(using 1.52 bios beta version) , G.Skill Flare X 16GB 3200 14CLt, msi rtx 2080 gaming x trio, PSU seasonic 850w platinum, case nzxt h500i and for cpu cooling kraken x62. I have OC my memory with Ryzen dram calculator to 3466mhz with safe settings and on my cpu I can't pass 4.15ghz on all cores even if use the stock xmp settings on memory. The temp I'm seeing on idle is 35-40c and around 60-65c on load on my cpu (I don't know if those temps are normal either). I have seen many videos on YouTube ppl getting easily 4.2 - 4.3ghz without even using an AIO. Can anyone give an insight since it's my first time using an AMD cpu and asrock mobo maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Diablix6 11-09-2018 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wandererqq (Post 27704972)
Recently I build a new pc with the following parts: Ryzen , asrock Taichi X470(using 1.52 bios beta version) , G.Skill Flare X 16GB 3200 14CLt, msi rtx 2080 gaming x trio, PSU seasonic 850w platinum, case nzxt h500i and for cpu cooling kraken x62. I have OC my memory with Ryzen dram calculator to 3466mhz with safe settings and on my cpu I can't pass 4.15ghz on all cores even if use the stock xmp settings on memory. The temp I'm seeing on idle is 35-40c and around 60-65c on load on my cpu (I don't know if those temps are normal either). I have seen many videos on YouTube ppl getting easily 4.2 - 4.3ghz without even using an AIO. Can anyone give an insight since it's my first time using an AMD cpu and asrock mobo maybe I'm doing something wrong.


I am no expert in this matter, but I hope I can help. What CPU model do you use? Did you increase CPU voltage accordingly? Did you increase CPU LLC? In my case I use just stock cooler Wrath Max, but my 2700x with XFR2 and with Enabled Overdrive in BIOS works pretty well on its own.


Try to disable C states, Cool'n Quiet, C3 State, etc... as it may not be stable with manual OC.
That's everything right know that I can think of. I hope it helps :thumb:.

Diablix6 11-09-2018 01:37 AM

Can someone try to Enable Dr. Debug LED in Southbridge in BIOS if you are getting any (error) codes?
I have X470 Taichi with P1.50 Bios, 2700X and 2x 8GB 3200MHz C14 G.Skill, and even with Cleared CMOS and stock RAM settings (2133MHz) when I enable Dr. Debug LED, I am getting code 24 or 40. Even when I tried different RAM kit, or different ram slots, I am still getting that code when I enable that LED. Is something wrong with my MB, or is it normal? Thanks for good soul that would try it and answer my question.

WoKeN 11-17-2018 10:44 AM

Hi did anyone here manage to get all 4 dimm slots occupied (32 gigs of ram) with DDR4 speeds around 3400 (maybe a little less or higher) with around a cas latency of maybe 14 (maybe a little less or higher)?


I currently have a corsair kit with samsung b die, it's an RGB non pro kit, and I can only run DDR4 3000 @ 14 cas, was hoping to get a different kit with different RGB (maybe corsair RGB Pro) or G Skill so I can run around DDR4 3400 @ 15, preferably lower with all 4 dimm slots occupied for 32 gigs of ram.


Can anyone help me out?


CPU is a 2700x in case that's important to know

detrophy 11-18-2018 10:40 AM

Hey guys, are you interested for a new beta bios I´ve got from asrock? It´s version is P1.53 and fixes the offset bug and provides (me) better memory support.
In addition to that, PBO clocks now 200MHz higher at the same voltages.

bjevers 11-19-2018 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27721076)
Hey guys, are you interested for a new beta bios I´ve got from asrock? It´s version is P1.53 and fixes the offset bug and provides (me) better memory support.
In addition to that, PBO clocks now 200MHz higher at the same voltages.

I would definitely be interested. Is this for the Taichi Ultimate?

Thanks

Redwoodz 11-20-2018 12:56 PM

DP

Redwoodz 11-20-2018 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27721076)
Hey guys, are you interested for a new beta bios I´ve got from asrock? It´s version is P1.53 and fixes the offset bug and provides (me) better memory support.
In addition to that, PBO clocks now 200MHz higher at the same voltages.

Absolutely. Just getting to the point where I am ready to set mine up for the first time. Had it over a month and still have not got to it yet. Soon though.

detrophy 11-20-2018 02:01 PM

Hey guys, sorry for the delay.

This is the BIOS, which I'm using right now.
If proof is needed, I can provide it.

EDIT: Somehow, I can't upload any files. So a droplr link then. This is for the Taichi Ultimate.
https://d.pr/f/Sgh6c1

bjevers 11-21-2018 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27724556)
Hey guys, sorry for the delay.

This is the BIOS, which I'm using right now.
If proof is needed, I can provide it.

EDIT: Somehow, I can't upload any files. So a droplr link then. This is for the Taichi Ultimate.
https://d.pr/f/Sgh6c1

Got it thanks! I'm not seeing any difference in the temp readings though over 1.50. Tctl is still 10 degrees higher than Tdie in HWInfo. Are you seeing the same?

EDIT: Sorry, I misunderstood when you said they fixed the offset. I thought it was the temp offset. I believe you meant the ram voltage offset.

detrophy 11-22-2018 12:53 AM

No, I meant the VCore offset while using PBO. There was a bug that reset the offset always to -0.1V, even if you set the offset to +0.1V.

TCtl is always +10°C on Ryzen 2xxx. This value is used by motherboard vendors to control the fans. This is intended.
You can read a bit about it here: https://community.amd.com/community/...mmunity-update

Tdie is the actual temperature of your CPU.

Wandererqq 11-27-2018 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablix6 (Post 27707996)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wandererqq (Post 27704972)
Recently I build a new pc with the following parts: Ryzen , asrock Taichi X470(using 1.52 bios beta version) , G.Skill Flare X 16GB 3200 14CLt, msi rtx 2080 gaming x trio, PSU seasonic 850w platinum, case nzxt h500i and for cpu cooling kraken x62. I have OC my memory with Ryzen dram calculator to 3466mhz with safe settings and on my cpu I can't pass 4.15ghz on all cores even if use the stock xmp settings on memory. The temp I'm seeing on idle is 35-40c and around 60-65c on load on my cpu (I don't know if those temps are normal either). I have seen many videos on YouTube ppl getting easily 4.2 - 4.3ghz without even using an AIO. Can anyone give an insight since it's my first time using an AMD cpu and asrock mobo maybe I'm doing something wrong.


I am no expert in this matter, but I hope I can help. What CPU model do you use? Did you increase CPU voltage accordingly? Did you increase CPU LLC? In my case I use just stock cooler Wrath Max, but my 2700x with XFR2 and with Enabled Overdrive in BIOS works pretty well on its own.


Try to disable C states, Cool'n Quiet, C3 State, etc... as it may not be stable with manual OC.
That's everything right know that I can think of. I hope it helps [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/thumb.gif[/IMG].

Sorry for the super delay answer. I'm using 2700x. Btw anyone used that new bios ver 1.53 I saw here, can be used aswell to the non ultimate version? I tried to increase the Vcore to 1.42v but still wasn't stable and llc at stage 2.

detrophy 11-30-2018 04:19 AM

Could you provide some more informations like:

What´s the maximum Tdie temperature while using Prime95 with "small FFT"?
Did you set the vcore while using ASrock Settings or AMD CBS?
Hint: Take a screenshot of HWInfo while running prime95 for about 10 minutes.

Try 3200 fast instead of 3466 safe. When my mind doesn't lie, 3200 with fast timings are better than 3466 and slow timings.

My 2700x goes to 4.2GHz with 1.33v and stays just below 80°C while running prime95.

Farmer Boe 12-03-2018 09:13 PM

Just upgraded from a 4770K to a 2700X. Pretty stoked and still amazed how long the 4770K lasted me. Back to AMD! The X470 Taichi mobo seems very nice as well. We'll see how it clocks the G.Skill Flare X B-die RAM.

MrWhiteRX7 12-04-2018 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27724556)
Hey guys, sorry for the delay.

This is the BIOS, which I'm using right now.
If proof is needed, I can provide it.

EDIT: Somehow, I can't upload any files. So a droplr link then. This is for the Taichi Ultimate.
https://d.pr/f/Sgh6c1

Can this work on Normal Taichi x470? Or ultimate only? Thanks for getting them to do this. I have been going back and forth with them and they are just saying dumb stuff like "reset cmos", pull motherboard atx 24pin power connector, check back with us. :(

detrophy 12-07-2018 12:08 PM

This is for the Ultimate only. At this link, you can get the latest beta bios from ASRock.
https://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php

It´s even newer than the one I´ve posted. (Taichi and Taichi Ultimate)

MrWhiteRX7 12-07-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27750136)
This is for the Ultimate only. At this link, you can get the latest beta bios from ASRock.
https://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php

It´s even newer than the one I´ve posted. (Taichi and Taichi Ultimate)

Awesome, that is pretty recent. Their tech support person just stopped responding to me after I told them "uhhh removing and replacing cmos doesn't change anything" lol. We'll see what happens!

confed 12-11-2018 03:40 PM

Can anyone share a guide/article/video about overclocking?

I just got the 2700 and the x470 Taichi and I want to play around. I see a lot of people using Ryzen Master but I am not sure if bios would be better.

I have 2 360 rads in my loop so I'd like to see how far I can push this setup. Thanks!

detrophy 12-11-2018 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by confed (Post 27755852)
I just got the 2700 and the x470 Taichi and I want to play around. I see a lot of people using Ryzen Master but I am not sure if bios would be better.

1. Use the latest beta bios.
2. Use ASRock Settings and go to processor speed.
3. Set 4.1 as starting point with 1.35V
4. Test for stability with prime95 (smallFFT)
5. If stable, push to 4.2
6. Repeat in 50MHz steps until unstable
7. raise core voltage in 0.01 steps up to around 1.45 ish V until stable. (this should be considered max)

Remember that most 2700 hit a wall at around 4.2GHz. Maybe you get lucky and can go to 4.3 or 4.4.

mtbiker033 12-15-2018 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27755900)
1. Use the latest beta bios.
2. Use ASRock Settings and go to processor speed.
3. Set 4.1 as starting point with 1.35V
4. Test for stability with prime95 (smallFFT)
5. If stable, push to 4.2
6. Repeat in 50MHz steps until unstable
7. raise core voltage in 0.01 steps up to around 1.45 ish V until stable. (this should be considered max)

Remember that most 2700 hit a wall at around 4.2GHz. Maybe you get lucky and can go to 4.3 or 4.4.

thank you for this! I just built a system with an R5 2600 & Asrock Gaming K4 X470 and this worked a treat. 4.1 @ 1.35. I did try 4.2 but at the same voltage but that was a no go.

detrophy 12-15-2018 10:40 AM

Why not trying 1.38V ?

Which LLC are you using?

Jspinks020 12-15-2018 10:45 AM

That's alotttt better than the MSI...I need 1.45v easy for 4.3ghz. But I mean it's not that more hot enough to matter. I guess if anything dog the chip out more.

lpecac 12-18-2018 12:49 AM

Nightmare on AMD street
 
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Just finished my black Friday build. I have never overclocked before, but I want to learn. So what should you overclock first the memory, the processor, or the video card? I have the DRAM Calculator, thaiphoon, and one youtube video under my belt so far for overclocking ram. I just got Prime95. What should I use to monitor my temps? Any hints on what speeds I should shoot for on my memory?

Redwoodz 12-18-2018 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wandererqq (Post 27732994)
Sorry for the super delay answer. I'm using 2700x. Btw anyone used that new bios ver 1.53 I saw here, can be used aswell to the non ultimate version? I tried to increase the Vcore to 1.42v but still wasn't stable and llc at stage 2.


X470 Taichi non/ultimate 1.62a beta bios avail here
https://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php

detrophy 12-23-2018 06:05 AM

Version 2.0 of the BIOS for the Ultimate and Non-Ultimate are available. AGESA 1.0.0.6

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...ex.de.asp#BIOS <- Ultimate
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...ex.de.asp#BIOS <- Non-Ultimate

MrWhiteRX7 12-26-2018 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27772480)
Version 2.0 of the BIOS for the Ultimate and Non-Ultimate are available. AGESA 1.0.0.6

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...ex.de.asp#BIOS <- Ultimate
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...ex.de.asp#BIOS <- Non-Ultimate


Been on this bios for about a week now. PBO completely works as it should now. :)

alanthast0s 12-28-2018 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWhiteRX7 (Post 27776404)
Been on this bios for about a week now. PBO completely works as it should now. :)

Can you post your settings please?
PBO is only working with RAM at stock settings. Also when PBO is enabled and save settings and re-enter bios, I always see that offset voltage is applied for the cpu without being able to save different settings

detrophy 12-28-2018 12:16 PM

Are you on the latest BIOS (2.00)?

alanthast0s 12-28-2018 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27778928)
Are you on the latest BIOS (2.00)?

Yes, on the latest 2.00 (agesa 1.0.0.6)

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

MrWhiteRX7 12-29-2018 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanthast0s (Post 27778420)
Can you post your settings please?
PBO is only working with RAM at stock settings. Also when PBO is enabled and save settings and re-enter bios, I always see that offset voltage is applied for the cpu without being able to save different settings

Sorry for the delay.. I have a few settings adjusted that may or may not be helping me but I'l get some screenshots for you in a bit. Basically though on p2.00 bios just to get it going all I did was enable it and then set my offset voltage and didn't have to touch my ram after that, however I already had my ram properly dialed in and saved before hand.

MrWhiteRX7 12-29-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alanthast0s (Post 27778420)
Can you post your settings please?
PBO is only working with RAM at stock settings. Also when PBO is enabled and save settings and re-enter bios, I always see that offset voltage is applied for the cpu without being able to save different settings

Ok here you go: If this doesn't make sense I'll try to help but this is how my bios is set and with PBO on I'm getting 4350mhz ALL CORES in game. It doesn't boost there and then fall off over time, it holds that for my entire gaming session even in BF1 / BFV. I LOVE it! This is also with overclocked ram. If your's doesn't work as well then you could change your voltage type to OC MODE instead of Stable mode but it will run a lot hotter. Play around with the voltage offset first though, as that will be the biggest factor.

Hope this helps!


alanthast0s 12-30-2018 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MrWhiteRX7 (Post 27780910)
Ok here you go: If this doesn't make sense I'll try to help but this is how my bios is set and with PBO on I'm getting 4350mhz ALL CORES in game. It doesn't boost there and then fall off over time, it holds that for my entire gaming session even in BF1 / BFV. I LOVE it! This is also with overclocked ram. If your's doesn't work as well then you could change your voltage type to OC MODE instead of Stable mode but it will run a lot hotter. Play around with the voltage offset first though, as that will be the biggest factor.



Hope this helps!




thank you very very much for your time!
I have bdies memory kit and I am trying to make it stable at 3466 14-14-14-34-48 but with no success. I 'll try your settings.

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MrWhiteRX7 12-30-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alanthast0s (Post 27781008)
thank you very very much for your time!
I have bdies memory kit and I am trying to make it stable at 3466 14-14-14-34-48 but with no success. I 'll try your settings.

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Yea 3466 on bdie depending on the kit you are starting with can struggle at a full cl14.. I had to do 14-14-15-14 to be completely stable. It's just as fast in my latency tests within margin of error. You may need to play with soc / ddr voltage as well. Try my settings as a start point:

https://i.imgur.com/tjRkbTp.png

lpecac 12-31-2018 03:17 AM

Thank you for posting up your settings Mr White. I did copy your settings in bios. It ran stable for me. I was thinking about copying your ram settings, yet I didn't understand why your picture didn't show trfc 2 or trfc 4. Do I just follow this to get those values?

TRFC2 = TRFC / 1.34 and TRFC4= TRFC2 / 1.625

I also have different ram so it probably wouldn't work anyway. I think we both have b-die though. I myself have got my 4 sticks to run at 3466. It just seems to be unstable once I start overclocking my cpu. My ram is CMR32GX4M4C3600C18.


I am just learning so I don't recommend these settings to others. Here are the settings I was using to get 4200 on my 2700x and 3400 on my ram. I got over 1900 in cinebench.


MrWhiteRX7 12-31-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lpecac (Post 27782424)
Thank you for posting up your settings Mr White. I did copy your settings in bios. It ran stable for me. I was thinking about copying your ram settings, yet I didn't understand why your picture didn't show trfc 2 or trfc 4. Do I just follow this to get those values?

TRFC2 = TRFC / 1.34 and TRFC4= TRFC2 / 1.625

I also have different ram so it probably wouldn't work anyway. I think we both have b-die though. I myself have got my 4 sticks to run at 3466. It just seems to be unstable once I start overclocking my cpu. My ram is CMR32GX4M4C3600C18.


I am just learning so I don't recommend these settings to others. Here are the settings I was using to get 4200 on my 2700x and 3400 on my ram. I got over 1900 in cinebench.


Put the frequency and voltage for the cpu to auto and let PBO do it's job. I get 4350mhz all cores in games vs struggling with a manual oc to get 4200ish. This will also probably be a ton more stable.

lpecac 01-01-2019 12:50 AM

I am using your settings with the ram timings for 3400 from dram calc now. I can not seem to get the ram to run at 3466. I have tried using your timings, and tried dram calc. Any suggestions?

MrWhiteRX7 01-01-2019 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lpecac (Post 27783530)
I am using your settings with the ram timings for 3400 from dram calc now. I can not seem to get the ram to run at 3466. I have tried using your timings, and tried dram calc. Any suggestions?

Do you still have the LLC for the ram at Level 1? If so put that to Level 4. What is your SOC and DDR voltages at currently?

lpecac 01-08-2019 03:15 AM

Sorry I was busy with RMA on my monitor. The settings I posted were what I had done before I copied what you had posted.

So here are some images of my current settings.


Sad to say that these ram timings from dram calc for 3400 are not completely stable for me.

MrWhiteRX7 01-08-2019 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpecac (Post 27794214)
Sorry I was busy with RMA on my monitor. The settings I posted were what I had done before I copied what you had posted.

So here are some images of my current settings.


Sad to say that these ram timings from dram calc for 3400 are not completely stable for me.

A couple recommendations... Disable RTT/NOM, increase dram voltage to 1.41 (which will be around 1.4 after vdroop), lower SOC to around 1.0725. I found more stability with soc lowered and dram v up.

Giver er hell! :)


p.s. Neurosis is awesome!

Diablix6 01-13-2019 07:30 AM

Guys, is it possible to use HDMI port on X470 Taichi as Audio Output for AV receiver? It would be nice not to occupy my only HDMI port on gpu.

Wandererqq 01-17-2019 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWhiteRX7 (Post 27795164)
Quote:

Originally Posted by lpecac (Post 27794214)
Sorry I was busy with RMA on my monitor. The settings I posted were what I had done before I copied what you had posted.

So here are some images of my current settings.


Sad to say that these ram timings from dram calc for 3400 are not completely stable for me.

A couple recommendations... Disable RTT/NOM, increase dram voltage to 1.41 (which will be around 1.4 after vdroop), lower SOC to around 1.0725. I found more stability with soc lowered and dram v up.

Giver er hell! [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]


p.s. Neurosis is awesome!

Can you please tell me what type of ram are you using? I am using g skill flare x 3200 at 14cl and I don't know if its worth to oc to 3400 if I have to increase the cl

MrWhiteRX7 01-18-2019 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wandererqq (Post 27810724)
Can you please tell me what type of ram are you using? I am using g skill flare x 3200 at 14cl and I don't know if its worth to oc to 3400 if I have to increase the cl

I'm running gskill trident z b-die 3466 cl16 kit, but got it down to 3466 cl14. If you are already at 3200 cl14 but can only get up to 3400 @ cl16 or something then don't even do it. You'll have better latency where you're at I'd think.

Kasmodan 01-22-2019 01:36 AM

Need some Gskill 3466 RAM help
 
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so I bought "G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3466 (PC4 27700) Desktop Memory Model F4-3466C16D-32GTZR"

I'm just trying to get it to run at the rated speed of 3466, I just can't seem to get it to take. These are the Samsung B die type I have them in A2 and B2 slots on the Motherboard. What timing settings should I put down to get them stable? I set it to the timing to the DRAM specs for safe and Nada ...The best it will take is 3066


umeng2002 01-22-2019 02:43 AM

Try manually inputting the recommended or alternate CLDO_VDDP Voltage and be sure to power cycle the PSU after each change.

Kasmodan 01-22-2019 03:19 AM

is VDDP the same as CLDO_VDDP in the Pic? I could not find a CLDO_VDDP named area.

DRAM Cal says CLDO_VDDP rec=700 alt=913 alt2=866.

Kasmodan 01-22-2019 03:27 AM

nevermind I found it :)

Kasmodan 01-22-2019 03:41 AM

I tryed all 3 with no luck....but if I move it from 3466 to 3066 it boots with all the settings in the Dram calc. with CLDO_VDDP rec=700

ma3uk 01-22-2019 04:10 AM

Try increasing or lowering CLDO_VDDP by 2 in a step, after each shift you need to completely turn off the PC. I managed to get stability with CLDO_VDDP 370

umeng2002 01-22-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasmodan (Post 27819010)
nevermind I found it :)

Yeah, it's usually buried at the very bottom of the DRAM timings menu.

I don't know what the default is, but I put it at 700 and did my stability tests with that, so I'm leaving it for now.

If someone knows,

Would changing the VLDO_VDDP help with tightening sub-timings?

I'm at 3466 safe preset, but I'm having a hard time getting stability at the fast preset. I can boot into Windows and everything, but Linpack Xtreme with high memory usage fails after a few runs. TestMem5 passes easily though.

ByReaL 02-13-2019 11:23 PM

DDR4 voltage set to 1.45V or over instant instability
 
i have a X470 Taichi bios version 2.0
CPU R5 2600 (mine) and R7 2700X (on loan)
memory Samsung OEM b-die 2x 16G sticks inserted in A2/B2 dimm slots
reset bios to factory defaults, reset bios ... ....

if i go in bios and the one and only setting i do is DDR voltage set to 1.5V windows gives blue screen instantly when it tries to boot
DDR voltage 1.4V works fine
DDR voltage set to 1.45V also crashes
(i know that if voltage is set to 1.45 reported is 1.48V and if i set 1.5v reported is 1.53V)
i tried the memory on other MB brand model at 1.5V+ and works fine so it's not the memory
I tried 2 cpus on the x470 taichi the 2600 and the 2700x and the behavior is identical so it's not the CPU

can anyone else that has a x470 taichi can please try to set ddr voltage to 1.5 and above no other change (no xmp ...) and report back if his system is stable or not

Wandererqq 02-14-2019 08:59 PM

Can anyone confirm if using the official bios 2.0 from Asrock's site that XFR can be enabled? Coz on previous versions my pc couldn't boot if I had XFR enabled.

ByReaL 02-15-2019 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wandererqq (Post 27853944)
Can anyone confirm if using the official bios 2.0 from Asrock's site that XFR can be enabled? Coz on previous versions my pc couldn't boot if I had XFR enabled.

cannot confirm i have my memory all set manually (my memory is OEM and has no XMP profile)
if you upgrade to bios 2.0 will be rely helpful if you could set ddr4 voltage to 1.5V and see if you can boot in windows, will help me a lot.

Redwoodz 02-23-2019 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ByReaL (Post 27854142)
cannot confirm i have my memory all set manually (my memory is OEM and has no XMP profile)
if you upgrade to bios 2.0 will be rely helpful if you could set ddr4 voltage to 1.5V and see if you can boot in windows, will help me a lot.

Awful high voltage for DDR4 RAM, what's the RAM temps at 1.45v?

waitandhope123 02-25-2019 06:27 PM

Picked an Open Box up for $145. Knew my offset from old B350-F that gave me 3.8GHZ. Anyways on this particular board using a 1700 what would be the best way to load it for testing, I've been using OCCT. Ran it for 4 hours and had no issues at 3.8ghz with a manual vcore 1.275

Should I change anything else? My CPU got to like 67C with OCCT

ByReaL 02-28-2019 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redwoodz (Post 27866428)
Awful high voltage for DDR4 RAM, what's the RAM temps at 1.45v?

XMP profiles are ok with up to 1.5V you can find memory sticks with such profiles to buy, i don't think 1.5V is that high at all (there are people pushing 1.8V+ for bench marking into B-die sticks)
i'm not sure if i'll be able to measure the temperature, but they do not look hot/warm and there is plenty of airflow around them.

is the first time i have problems pushing this voltage in those sticks, i have a Intel setup if i move the sticks there they work fine at 1.6V with no issue.

RMA the board, new board arrived, same problem observed, maybe it's a bios thing

can anyone with X470 Taichi try the 1.5V and see if it works for them ?
let me know besides 1.5V DDR4 voltage if anything else was set

ByReaL 03-23-2019 01:54 PM

anyone could give it a try ? please, any voltage past 1.5V whatever you feel comfortable with

Redwoodz 03-23-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ByReaL (Post 27905086)
anyone could give it a try ? please, any voltage past 1.5V whatever you feel comfortable with

No problem at all. Samsung D die.

Kryton 03-31-2019 09:07 AM

Did a new build based on the X470 Tachi and it's doing well.
Popped in a 2700X, some B-Die and one of the new Radeon VII's and it's off and running. ATM I"m letting it do a little folding and it's doing good but temps with the Radeon VII are kinda high. I know they typicaly run hotter than Nvidia so it's expected, for just everyday use temps are very good that I've seen so far.

No chance to OC it yet because this chip with the stock cooler is getting a little too hot itself, ordered another cooler to help with this problem https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA9ZH8KJ7227 and if the order goes through I'll have something good to use with it.

Wandererqq 04-09-2019 08:20 AM

Anyone check the new 3.10 bios? Some of the options of the bios menu have been disappeared and have to admit that the system now runs a bit cooler but also the cores seems to run lower speed with PBO enabled.

xanieth 04-09-2019 09:57 AM

What all is missing i'm still running 2.0 for x470 taichi and would like to know what latency's are and if there is still any inter core degradation in latency. and what options in the bios are removed? I'm running a 2600x and 3200mhz gskill FlareX samsung b-die at 3466 mhz and was wondering if this update effects ocing as well.

Redwoodz 04-12-2019 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kryton (Post 27915954)
Did a new build based on the X470 Tachi and it's doing well.
Popped in a 2700X, some B-Die and one of the new Radeon VII's and it's off and running. ATM I"m letting it do a little folding and it's doing good but temps with the Radeon VII are kinda high. I know they typicaly run hotter than Nvidia so it's expected, for just everyday use temps are very good that I've seen so far.

No chance to OC it yet because this chip with the stock cooler is getting a little too hot itself, ordered another cooler to help with this problem https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA9ZH8KJ7227 and if the order goes through I'll have something good to use with it.


So many options compared to the old days! Have not had a lot of time to learn Ryzen& DDR4, finally got some SuperTalent B-Die to play with. Trying to decide on my next chip, 2600/2700X or just wait for Matisse.

barbz127 04-26-2019 06:01 AM

Hi all,
Can anyone give me a quick rundown of OC'ing CPU on this board? CPU is a 1700 which was running on my x370 taichi at 3.8 @ 1.31v before a lightning strike took out the NIC.

Does this board need to use an offset (suffer from an offset bug like the x370) or can I just plug in my numbers, enable xmp profile and be done with it (to start with)? Screenshots appreciated.

Also which Bios am I best to load?

Thankyou

mouacyk 04-26-2019 09:29 PM

Is anyone able to install Windows 10 64-bit on a 970 EVO Plus on this motherboard? Windows Setup cannot detect the drive in either AHCI or RAID mode. If anyone did, what BIOS options did you have to set? Thanks.

EDIT: Figured it out. The problem was I dd'ed the Windows 10 ISO to a USB drive, and even though it booted and ran fine, it was never able to load the drivers to detect the NVME or SATA drives. I ended up having to boot into Windows 7 and re-create the USB drive with Rufus, at which point the drivers loaded and the drives were easily detected. SMH...

Strop 05-10-2019 02:59 AM

Just a query re your timings for Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3466MHz CMK16GX4M2B3466C16 have a similar system - 2700x, Taichi X470 M/B, 2060 RTX G/byte , Samsung 970 evo 500gb, 2 tb hard drive etc.
Thanks.

Cosminnn 05-10-2019 04:18 AM

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Is it possible to change the Intel Wireless AC 3168NGW 1x1 433Mbps card with a more capable wifi card?
I mean it should have an M.2 port where the card is plug in ... specifically a M.2 2230 port.
Theoretically possible, but maybe the height of the new board should be the problem?
If I look for a M.2 2230 better wifi card will it fit the X470 Taichi?

detrophy 05-11-2019 03:42 AM

It seems like you could upgrade that card.

https://www.tweaktown.com/image.php?...eview_full.jpg

See this little M.2 connector on the top left side? There it goes.

Cosminnn 05-13-2019 01:24 AM

So if I keep it on M.2 2230 connection and for factor ... I'll be fine.
One topic solved :) the other ... usually M.2 WiFi-cards are sold as bulk. Probably the antenna connection must be a match,to be able to connect it to the new card.

But thanks for the clarifications.

detrophy 05-15-2019 03:51 AM

Has someone already flashed the new 3.10 Bios?
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...index.asp#BIOS

NightAntilli 05-15-2019 05:21 AM

Things are running well for me right now. I'm most likely not going to flash until I upgrade my CPU.

Redwoodz 05-15-2019 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by detrophy (Post 27967372)
Has someone already flashed the new 3.10 Bios?
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%2...index.asp#BIOS

We were hoping you would and tell us how it goes. :P

hodgempls 05-25-2019 07:44 AM

I just snagged an open box x470 Taichi/Ryzen 1600 combo for under 180 at Microcenter to replace a Sandy Bridge 2500K system that finally bit the dust... The motherboard was still strapped to the bottom foam and did not look like it had even been opened. It was missing the sata cables but still had the un-opened IO plate, manual etc. I was able to get the Ryzen 1600 to 4ghz without issue. My question is on the BIOS. It has 1.6 on it now. Should I upgrade to 2.0/3.0 even though I do not have an APU? Also, any update on the Ryzen 3000 bios? My plan is to use the 1600 until fall when I plan on getting a 12 core CPU - hoping the market will calm down by then and prices drop some.

Redwoodz 05-25-2019 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hodgempls (Post 27978600)
I just snagged an open box x470 Taichi/Ryzen 1600 combo for under 180 at Microcenter to replace a Sandy Bridge 2500K system that finally bit the dust... The motherboard was still strapped to the bottom foam and did not look like it had even been opened. It was missing the sata cables but still had the un-opened IO plate, manual etc. I was able to get the Ryzen 1600 to 4ghz without issue. My question is on the BIOS. It has 1.6 on it now. Should I upgrade to 2.0/3.0 even though I do not have an APU? Also, any update on the Ryzen 3000 bios? My plan is to use the 1600 until fall when I plan on getting a 12 core CPU - hoping the market will calm down by then and prices drop some.

If you want to reach higher RAM frequencies you should probably update it.


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