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darkfirebg 06-23-2018 04:42 AM

Using old DVD (5+1) audio with new Samsung TV?
 
Hello guys,

I just bought a new Samsung UE50MU6100 and i really want to use my old DVD Philips LX3900SA 5+1 Audio system.
Problem is the DVD does not have HDMI nor optical audio connection.
According to its specification the DVD has the following connectivity options:


Analog audio Left/Right in
ComponentVideo out Progressive
Composite video (CVBS) out
Digital coaxial in
FM Antenna
Line out
MW Antenna
S-Video out
and SCART

While the TV has
Composite In (AV)
Digital Audio Out (Optical)
HDMI
Component In (Y/Pb/Pr)
Lan
USB

I tried hooking it up with RCA (both via scart and without) but it does not work. While it works perfect with my old Toshiba TV (2010 model)..
Do you see any options on hooking these two devices together?
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated..

Tiihokatti 06-24-2018 11:01 AM

TV's do not have any kind of analog outputs these days.
The only analog output the TV could have these days is the headphone output, and even that is usually removed because of that utterly stupid trend Apple made. And in your case exactly that has happened (no headphone output).

Your HTIB (home theater in a box) seems to have coaxial (aka. Digital) input as the only "viable" option, but your TV doesn't have it. Coaxial and optical are pretty much the same thing data-wise, except coaxial uses electricity and optical uses light to transfer the data from one end to another.

In a nutshell: You can't connect the speakers to your TV. The only thing that could barely be called a solution would be to get an external DAC (like this one) that uses optical and plug that to the L/R analog inputs of the HTIB.

brucethemoose 06-24-2018 11:20 AM

I haven't tried them myself, but you could get an optical to coaxial audio converter.

darkfirebg 06-24-2018 01:32 PM

Tiihokatti, thanks, i found similar DAC around here for 15 EUR and will give it a try!

brucethemoose 06-25-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by darkfirebg (Post 27510070)
Tiihokatti, thanks, i found similar DAC around here for 15 EUR and will give it a try!

That'll work, but it'll just be upmixed stereo. Also, there's a risk you'll get buzzing from cheap DACs, depending on which one you got.

Get an optical->coax converter instead, and you can send real 5.1 surround sound to your DVD system. And there's no risk of sound quality degredation, it either works perfectly or it doesn't work at all.

JackCY 06-25-2018 05:25 PM

Use your TV as a target device not as a source. This way you can split audio and video to different paths, send audio to your audio setup and video to the TV.

Tiihokatti 06-26-2018 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by brucethemoose (Post 27511814)
That'll work, but it'll just be upmixed stereo. Also, there's a risk you'll get buzzing from cheap DACs, depending on which one you got.

Get an optical->coax converter instead, and you can send real 5.1 surround sound to your DVD system. And there's no risk of sound quality degredation, it either works perfectly or it doesn't work at all.

I'm looking at the HTIB manual at the moment, and I'm about to facepalm pretty damn hard at Philips.

– For your playback through DIGITAL IN
connection, set the digital output of that
player to PCM format.


Which means that the coax-in doesn't have support for DTS/DDL decoding... NICE JOB PHILIPS, NICE JOB!
In laymans terms (for the OP): The coaxial input is a pile of turd with no real use as long as the analog inputs work fine.

darkfirebg 06-26-2018 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucethemoose (Post 27511814)
That'll work, but it'll just be upmixed stereo. Also, there's a risk you'll get buzzing from cheap DACs, depending on which one you got.

Get an optical->coax converter instead, and you can send real 5.1 surround sound to your DVD system. And there's no risk of sound quality degredation, it either works perfectly or it doesn't work at all.

Thanks, the DAC seemed really cheap indeed, so maybe that's a better option.
I found relatively cheap (22eur) HAMA 42906, Coax IN/Optical OUT ODT available, and will order to give it a try. Hope it will work!

Edit: Which one do i need? Coax IN/Optical OUT ODT or Optical IN ODT (Toslink)/Coax OUT? Sorry, a bit lost here.


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