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FlanK3r 08-07-2018 01:03 AM

Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX, 2970WX, 2950X, 2920X owners club
 
Im not listening heavy metal music...But if we are talking about heavy metal processors, it is different story for me. And Yes, I applaud to AMD! Second year of great CPUs is here and HEDT AMD is real - highend crazy strongest most loved CPU ever!

Report from TMsHW about Manilla AMD day and few results of Cinebenchs! LN2? YES sir!

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1775/...214f240b_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1777/...63599ae9_b.jpg
Macci is AMD guy many years. I remember him from Phenom Agena days there, if Im correct.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1840/...b0a989e4_b.jpg
Who is this guy?:)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/937/4...26f0c990_b.jpg

What about Cinebench?! At COmputex Intel demostrated huge chip with 28-core, sample of future Cascade Lake-X. The board was bigger than eATX with crazy VRM. CPU must be cooled by chiller and power consumption was still over 800W. But nice clean 5 GHz.
Threadripper LN2 demo with normal eATX board cooled by LN2 and 5.1 GHz run.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1791/...589dbd10_b.jpg
-there are some scores completed by Tomshardware, CB WR is here :)

All article: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...e_x,37550.html

REVIEWS AROUND THE WEB WITH MY NOTE
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...dripper_2950X/
-average review (many old tests for modern CPUs), OC 4.15 GHz 1.45V, MSI Creation
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html
-OC 4200MHz (Zenith Extreme)
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html
-OC 4.1 GHz 1.4V
https://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ce-review.html
-OC 4.2 GHz with Noctuou, 1.3V
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13124...d-2950x-review

-Linus, Zenith Extreme
-Der8auer
-PaulsHW, i9-7960X vs TR 1950X vs 2950X
-PCworld 2990WX review
-hardware unboxed 1
-hardware uboxed 2 - multitasking part
http://oc.jagatreview.com/2018/08/ry...inebench-8000/
-extreme OC over 8K points
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/87...iew/index.html
-OC 4200 MHz both
https://wccftech.com/review/amd-ryze...re-cpu-review/
-OC 4.1GHz and 4GHz (depends on board)
http://www.ddworld.cz/pc-a-komponent...m-vykonem.html
-OC 4 GHz
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13124...d-2950x-review
-one of the best reviews
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018...50x_cpu_review
-OC 4 GHz 2990WX, 4.2GHz 2950X
https://techreport.com/review/33977/...x-cpu-reviewed
https://techreport.com/review/33987/...x-cpu-reviewed
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Proces...Moving-Forward
-2990WX OC 4.1GHz 1.24V
https://www.techspot.com/review/1678...-2990wx-2950x/
-2990WX OC = 4 GHz, 2950X OC 4.1 GHz
https://www.techspot.com/review/1680...-mega-tasking/
-part two - megatasking
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryze...-review_207135
-OC 4.1GHz on Zenith Extreme
https://benchlife.info/amd-2nd-ryzen...reme-08132018/
https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipset...pu-performance
https://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipset...ng-performance

https://www.kitguru.net/components/j...tation-review/
-PC sestava review
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ke-x,5727.html
-nonsense comparison
http://www.comptoir-hardware.com/art...50x-2990x.html
-MSI Creation, good review in tests, OC 4.1 GHz 2950X and 3.925GHz 2990WX (1.34V)
https://www.computerbase.de/2018-08/...wx-2950x-test/
-2950X 4.25GHz OC 1.375V, 2990WX 3.9GHz OC, Zenith Extreme board
https://www.ixbt.com/platform/amd-ry...wx-review.html
-RU review
https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/1...ripper-2990wx/
-OC 4.075GHz 1.35V, Zenith Extreme
http://www.expreview.com/63369.html
-OC 4.1 GHz 2990WX a 4.2 Ghz 2950X
https://www.golem.de/news/threadripp...08-135832.html
http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_rece...950x-test.html
-OC 2950X 4.1 GHz Zenith Extreme
https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cp...950x-review/1/
-OC 2950X 1.425V 4.2GHz, 2990WX 4.1GHz 1.4V Zenith Extreme
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/856...en-core-te-ver
-solid review, Zenith Extreme, OC 2950X = 4.3GHz 1,45V, 2990WX = 4.2 GHz 1.425V, LN2 5.1 GHz
https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-...-2990wx-review
-x399 AORUS, OC PBO only
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.ph...el-vorbei.html
-X399 Creation, OC 2950X=4.25 GHz, 2990WX=3.9 GHz
https://www.lesnumeriques.com/cpu-pr...5451/test.html
https://pclab.pl/art78574.html
-OC 2990WX up to 4 GHz, 4.1GHz 2950X Zenith Extreme
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Ryzen-...-Test-1262448/
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...x-2990wx&num=1
-LINUX test
https://tweakers.net/reviews/6441/de...-32-cores.html
-OC 2990WX=4.2GHz 1.425V, 2950X 4.3GHz 1.45V both on Zenith Extreme
https://news.xfastest.com/review/rev...-2950x-review/
-OC 4.1GHz 2990WX 1.35V, 4.3GHz 2950X on Zenith
https://www.tomshw.de/2018/08/13/amd...-zu-32-kernen/
-MSI Creation, good test
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...950x,5725.html
-english version
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/...990wx_review/5
-OC 2990WX 4 GHz, OC 2950X 4.375 GHz 1.4V both Zenith Extreme
https://www.sweclockers.com/test/260...90wx-och-2950x
-OC 4100 Mhz

radier 08-07-2018 03:17 AM

Why there is almost no difference between 1950X and 2950X?

Shiftstealth 08-07-2018 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radier (Post 27565186)
Why there is almost no difference between 1950X and 2950X?

They're the same core count at 16c/32t ea. The 1950X precision boosts up to 4.2, and the 2950x precision boosts up to 4.4. They are both 180W. So i'd bet they have to keep the boosts almost as low on the 2950x to keep it in the 180W area.

FlanK3r 08-07-2018 07:18 AM

I think, the part is agesa (new agesa was in few tests a little worse than new, ussually legacy tests) and clocks. SIngle thread will be better of course, but multithread in load it could be extra 100 MHz on new TR. And more depends on cooling setup, with liquid setup will be difference higher for new TR2.

lutjens 08-07-2018 03:07 PM

Pre-order is in...need to upgrade my rattletrap 1950X...;)

betam4x 08-07-2018 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlanK3r (Post 27565430)
I think, the part is agesa (new agesa was in few tests a little worse than new, ussually legacy tests) and clocks. SIngle thread will be better of course, but multithread in load it could be extra 100 MHz on new TR. And more depends on cooling setup, with liquid setup will be difference higher for new TR2.

I don't know about single threaded performance. A lot of that performance on Ryzen came from Cache improvements. The 1950X already had those improvements baked in. At best you might see SLIGHTLY lower memory latency, but there isn't much improvement to be had.

FlanK3r 08-08-2018 02:59 PM

Im thinking about "only" 2950X :)

betam4x 08-09-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betam4x (Post 27566094)
I don't know about single threaded performance. A lot of that performance on Ryzen came from Cache improvements. The 1950X already had those improvements baked in. At best you might see SLIGHTLY lower memory latency, but there isn't much improvement to be had.

I forgot to mention that single threaded applications should run much faster on the 2xxx series thanks to the improved boost algorithms, however as I mentioned before, don't expect much, if anything in the way of IPC.

AlphaC 08-09-2018 04:35 PM

It's Cinebench, I wouldn't expect most of the latency improvements to improve scores there drastically. That said, for people buying these CPUs with 4 dies , latency likely isn't a top factor.

Aby67 08-12-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radier (Post 27565186)
Why there is almost no difference between 1950X and 2950X?

Because there is not a motherboard capable to keep XFR boosting properly, the Zenith EXtreme, doenst have good enough VRMs for that CPU, for it to have efficient power delivery and avoid very quick dgradation of teh motherboard unless yOu run teh CPU at 1.1 Volts maximum for safety reasons...(meaning You dont wan t it to catch fire).


That Cinebench run scoring 7.5 k is quite disappointing score...and its due to the motherboard power delivery limits...whth a decent motherboard you will likely see the 2950X almost challenge that score.

Problem is that Threadripper motherboards of the past year that are around now are total crap and not truly good for this kind of CPUs...I dont see any sense @asus in dropping a ROG sticker on TR4 motherboards....it s like branding new ferrari engine on a fiat 500 abarth chassis.

These CPus need motherboards like Gygabite made for Intel to make that chiller run on their 28 core...and I strongly suspect that Gygabite will become the new king on the Hill of motherboards, as Apparently @asus is sandbagging threadripper and will not release any new motherboard for these 32 core xeon killer CPUs.


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