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qsxcv 11-27-2018 07:40 PM

3366 mice have different framerates: maximums are either ~8500 or ~11500
 
edit: original title was "g pro (3366) running at lower framerates?!? aging or are g pro's weird?"
this is not due to aging and not specific to g pro's because my wired g403 that i've barely used since 2016 behaves the same.


current list:

~8500 max framerate:
g pro 3366
g403 wired version

~11500 max framerate mice:
g303
g403 wireless
g703

not sure:
g502 (at least the firmwares before 2016 were ~11500. not sure about current firmware, if there is a newer firmware)
g900 (pretty sure i remember it was ~11500)
g903? probably identical to g900


@anyone with a 3366 mouse in the "not sure" list
could you reply to this thread a mousetester log (preferred) and/or plot of a reasonably fast swipe (like around 1-2m/s)?
i'll tell you what framerate yours is running at. set the dpi to 12000 or something high to make it easier for me

also:
i dare anyone to try to find a post before this thread was created, claiming different tracking feel between mice in those two categories (e.g. between g pro and g303)
i certainly cannot tell a difference but maybe someone else was able to in the past

mousetester plots where i first found out about this:


different malfunction speeds:
Spoiler!


i can estimate the framerates by observing the ratio of the dots.
for example if there are 10 counts of motion per frame,
a framerate of 2500 with 1000hz usb would give output like 20,30,20,30,20,30
a framerate of 5700 with 1000hz usb would give output like 50,60,60,50,60,60,50,60,60,60
just think about bit a little and it will make sense

more details and worked out examples:
Spoiler!

iceskeleton 11-28-2018 04:01 AM

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Not sure how clean it is :shrugs:

g pro used since it was released

qsxcv 11-28-2018 11:50 AM

thanks

the max framerate in yours is ~8060

how much usage has your g pro gone through?
maybe one of the firmware updates did this? but then why are all my othee 3366 mice normal...

ToTheSun! 11-28-2018 01:27 PM

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Is this any good? Wireless G703.

Melan 11-28-2018 03:12 PM

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Wireless G403 (while wired). Had it since the release.

qsxcv 11-28-2018 11:22 PM

thanks guys
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheSun! (Post 27735452)
Is this any good? Wireless G703.

framerates there are 4100 and 4900 (didn't reach higher modes because you didn't swipe too fast)
that's normal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melan (Post 27735584)
Wireless G403 (while wired). Had it since the release.

framerate maxes out at 11600.
also normal


so only g pro is weird???
i swear i would have noticed this year ago but somehow i didn't?

Melan 11-28-2018 11:44 PM

Well you could flash old firmware...

qsxcv 11-28-2018 11:54 PM

has the g pro ever had a firmware update? uaok said he didn't find any

so i found a mousetester plot from Ino's review in 2016: https://www.overclock.net/forum/375-...eview-ino.html
unfortunately it's kinda noisy because Ino plotted xvelocity and the intervals weren't too stable for him.

anyway... looks like g pro has always been like this.
i scaled the image by 9/8 and overlapped them
https://i.imgur.com/ONWuoYf.png
bottom red dots should fit with the top blue dots if the framerate is between 8000 and 9000.

ughhhhh i feel embarrassed that i'm only finding out about this 2 years after the fact
guess it's time to pull out the oscilloscope again and see what's going on inside the g pro...

Melan 11-28-2018 11:57 PM

Maybe you're just not pro enough. It is a G Pro after all. Apply for Logi-sponsored competitive team to unlock max frame rate.

qsxcv 11-29-2018 12:16 AM

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my basically new wired g403 also has max framerate ~8750


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