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lb_felipe 01-02-2019 06:03 AM

Recommendations for a custom loop for a quiet extreme rig (Core i7-9900K + GeForce RTX 2080 Ti)
 
Please rate and suggest (let me know if something is missing and if everything is compatible). I am noob.

01 x Intel Core i9-9900K
01 x GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS XTREME
01 x G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 32GB (8GBx4) 4000MHz 18-19-19-39 1.35v
01 x ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti OC
01 x Intel Optane SSD 905P 1.5TB AIC
02 x Samsung 970 EVO 2TB

01 x Lian Li PC – V3000
01 x Seasonic PRIME Ultra 1000 Titanium
01 x Watercool HEATKILLER IV PRO (INTEL processor) BLACK COPPER
01 x Watercool HEATKILLER IV for ASUS RTX 2080 Ti STRIX - ACRYL Ni-Bl RGB
01 x Watercool WCP D5-PWM
01 x Watercool HEATKILLER Tube 200 D5
01 x Watercool HEATKILLER Tube - stand (long)
01 x Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis 480GTS
01 x Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis 360GTS
11 x Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM
10 x Barrow Compression Fitting(ID3/8-OD5/8)Soft Tubing
04 x Barrow 90°Snake 2-way Rotary Adapter
01 x PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing - 3/8in.ID x 5/8in.OD - Retail Bundle (10ft pack) - Crystal Clear
01 x Mayhems X1 Clear 1 Ltr Premixed
01 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

ThrashZone 01-02-2019 07:11 AM

Hi,
I'd consider a ek dual pwm D5 pump if not using two separate loops for cpu and gpu.
Otherwise looks fine.

lb_felipe 01-02-2019 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrashZone (Post 27785286)
Hi,
I'd consider a ek dual pwm D5 pump if not using two separate loops for cpu and gpu.
Otherwise looks fine.

Thank you.

I'll consider it. However that wouldn't increase the noise and hum? If so, is worth it for the performance gains?

Anyway, I am happy because you found my project good, but did you miss any stuff like an adaptor, toolkit, accessory etc? Are everything matching and make sense or something is incoherent or incompatible?

Also why EK pumps instead of one more Heatkiller tube/pump?

ciarlatano 01-02-2019 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lb_felipe (Post 27785306)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrashZone (Post 27785286)
Hi,
I'd consider a ek dual pwm D5 pump if not using two separate loops for cpu and gpu.
Otherwise looks fine.

Thank you.

I'll consider it. However that wouldn't increase the noise and hum? If so, is worth it for the performance gains?

Anyway, I am happy because you found my project good, but did you miss any stuff like an adaptor, toolkit, accessory etc? Are everything matching and make sense or something is incoherent or incompatible?

Also why EK pumps instead of one more Heatkiller tube/pump?

If you were to add another pump, stick with the Watercool pumps. Thraehzone was talking about the EK dual top, not the pumps themselves.

Personally, I see no need for a second pump in this loop unless you want it for redundancy.

JackCY 01-02-2019 07:52 AM

Extreme? Well "roboclocker" then. It's a custom LN2 loop.

broodro0ster 01-02-2019 07:56 AM

Dual pump is not neccesary in this build. I run a single D5 and 2x GTS 360's, CPU and GPU block without problems. I get about 0,9-1GPM with the pump at full speed.

If you go dual pump, you can run the pumps slower to get the same flowrate and this will be quiet. My D5 is pretty loud at full speed, but it's ok at 4000rpm and my temps only rise 0.4°C. But if I slow down the pump even more, the temps go up pretty quick.

If you choose a separate pump and reservoir, you can also mount the pump on a soft Shoggy sandwhich to uncouple it from the case. This will make it a lot more quiet since vibrations are way louder when then transfer on the case.

ThrashZone 01-02-2019 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lb_felipe (Post 27785306)
Thank you.

I'll consider it. However that wouldn't increase the noise and hum? If so, is worth it for the performance gains?

Anyway, I am happy because you found my project good, but did you miss any stuff like an adaptor, toolkit, accessory etc? Are everything matching and make sense or something is incoherent or incompatible?

Also why EK pumps instead of one more Heatkiller tube/pump?

Hi,
EK's the only one I've seen that have a dual pump pwm
Dual will be no louder... than a single just insures constant pressure...
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xtop-re...rial-incl-pump

lb_felipe 01-02-2019 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciarlatano (Post 27785352)
If you were to add another pump, stick with the Watercool pumps. Thraehzone was talking about the EK dual top, not the pumps themselves.

Personally, I see no need for a second pump in this loop unless you want it for redundancy.

I'm confused. It seems he refers to two actual pumps. Sadly EK reservoir for that pumps pair is not made of glass. I don't want reservoir unclouped from pump because that adds one more pair of fittings, adaptors, hoses and point of failure (leakage). I always prefere LEGO style build because I am noob.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackCY (Post 27785356)
Extreme? Well "roboclocker" then. It's a custom LN2 loop.

I see that. I really would like to build an air cooled i7-9900K, but by what I have seen I would be waste powerhorse of the chip due the limitations of thermals, power limit, overclock etc. I would prefer air cooling because painness, cost and quietness (no pump sound).

Quote:

Originally Posted by broodro0ster (Post 27785362)
Dual pump is not neccesary in this build. I run a single D5 and 2x GTS 360's, CPU and GPU block without problems. I get about 0,9-1GPM with the pump at full speed.

If you go dual pump, you can run the pumps slower to get the same flowrate and this will be quiet. My D5 is pretty loud at full speed, but it's ok at 4000rpm and my temps only rise 0.4°C. But if I slow down the pump even more, the temps go up pretty quick.

If you choose a separate pump and reservoir, you can also mount the pump on a soft Shoggy sandwhich to uncouple it from the case. This will make it a lot more quiet since vibrations are way louder when then transfer on the case.

Good advice, but I have so far preferred coupled pump with reservoir. Have you any advice to mitgate vibrations in a Lian V3000?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrashZone (Post 27785588)
Hi,
EK's the only one I've seen that have a dual pump pwm
Dual will be no louder... than a single just insures constant pressure...
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xtop-re...rial-incl-pump

I have lurked and now I understand it possibly would be quieter. Anyway if a I keep just a pump, just one 480GTS is enough for CPU + GPU blocked being quieter or 360GTS+480 one are quieter?

lexer 01-02-2019 03:51 PM

I have only one observation about your configuration you pretty much pick one the best radiator in the market for low speed fans and all the components are very good. But personally I will run dual pump, the risk of failure are pretty low specially with soft tubing and compression fitting
When you build your loop leave it running with the pump a full speed with a external power supply for a couple of hours. Check any leak or fitting loose, if everything is okey add a couple of napkins on any sensible components that can cause a short out like around the CPU, video card etc. Turn on the system use it and control for any leaks from time to time, if everything is okey after a couple of day remove the napkins. That is my way of doing it probably a bit over the top but a piece of high-end hardware in my country are a couple of wages lol

broodro0ster 01-03-2019 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lb_felipe (Post 27785922)
I'm confused. It seems he refers to two actual pumps. Sadly EK reservoir for that pumps pair is not made of glass. I don't want reservoir unclouped from pump because that adds one more pair of fittings, adaptors, hoses and point of failure (leakage). I always prefere LEGO style build because I am noob.



I see that. I really would like to build an air cooled i7-9900K, but by what I have seen I would be waste powerhorse of the chip due the limitations of thermals, power limit, overclock etc. I would prefer air cooling because painness, cost and quietness (no pump sound).



Good advice, but I have so far preferred coupled pump with reservoir. Have you any advice to mitgate vibrations in a Lian V3000?



I have lurked and now I understand it possibly would be quieter. Anyway if a I keep just a pump, just one 480GTS is enough for CPU + GPU blocked being quieter or 360GTS+480 one are quieter?

The 360 GTS + 480 GTS will definitely be quieter. And a single D5 can handle this loop fine with the CPU and GPU in it.
But dual D5's give you the same flow at lower speeds (less noise) and give you redundancy when 1 pump fails.

I'm running a GPU + CPU + 2x GTS 360's from a single D5 because I can't fit a second D5 in my case.

They way I would uncoupled is by putting it in the pedestal on a Shoggy sandwhich to absorb vibrations. Connect the pump via soft tubing to 2 bulkhead fittings and from there you can use hardtubing or softtubing in the visible area.

My D5 pump/res combo was pretty quite with softtubing, but since my rebuild is a lot louder. I'm guessing it because of the hardline tubing transfering vibrations to my radiator that is mounted to the case.
A decoupled pump can be 15dB quieter than a coupled pump which is a lot.


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